[Politics] Reintroducing the death penalty

[studio150]

Perhaps Patel sees herself as the new Albert Pierrepoint.

What next on the Tory wish list, legalised torture for those that say 'no comment' when questioned by the Police, 50 lashes for protesting against the Government, Concentration Camps for immigrants and other undesirables.......

Terrible that the return of the death penalty is even being considered

 

[daveinprague]

Birmingham six would have all been executed. Just make life a life sentence. It will cost more possibly but the idea of your entire life in prison would probably be a bigger deterrent

 

[Hamilton]

It is the mark of a civilised society that we do not condone the taking of life.

 

[Perkino]

There are certain things that are inexcusable like rape or child abuse but I don't think the death penalty would be a significant deterrent for those willing to commit such crimes. The issue will become where the line is drawn for what is deserving of the death penalty, not a decision I would like to make.

As mentioned above prison in the UK isn't the punishment that it could be. Access to tv, computer games, the right to vote and many other perks make it a much nicer place to be detained than most countries. I'd rather see those things adapted before the killing of prisoners

 

[GT49er]

The death penalty, actually

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs

Not arguing for the return of the death penalty, bu that link very much applies to the US, not the UK. In Britain executions took place in weeks, nor years. Keeping somebody on death row for 20 years, as often happens in the states, the wait is even more cruel and barbaric than the death sentence itself.

 

[GT49er]

Completely stupid, irresponsible and irrelevant comment.

It's a question, not a comment.

 

[lawros left foot]

I have an old friend who has done’ serious time’ time.

He tells me that, as with British policing, it is all about ‘ by consent’.
No UK prison could function without the consent of the inmates, in the present structure.
If you want prisons in a permanent state of ferment, go ahead and introduce draconian measures akin to pre-Victorian times, but, with today’s enlightened views on Human rights, be prepared for numerous costly challenges under the Law, as well as violent Prison protests that would make the old Strangeways riots, a Vicars tea party.

 

[GT49er]

It is not a deterrent. The murder rate in states with the death penalty is as high, if not higher than states without.

Yes, but you must concede that the re-offending rate is much lower!

 

[severnside gull]

I hope it is just that 18 people on here who aren’t old enough to remember people hanging although they didn’t kill anyone.
Miscarriages of justice were and are not uncommon

 

[jimhigham]

No. No, just... no!

Private Eye has revealed any number of miscarriages of justice over the years. The risk of executing the wrong person is simply too great.

And I’ve not even started on the just being a reasonable human being part.

If somebody close to me were murdered then I am fairly sure I would want retribution, which is why we entrust an independent judiciary to take care of the punishment. Giving in to the impulse to seek vengeance, as opposed to justice, takes us down a very dark road.

 

[Wellesley]

Fantastic idea. I'd suggest half the whining namby-pamby left-wing snivellers on here to go first. Would be great entertainment when the football is a bit shit. Then all the immigrants, the French and the Jocks. Such fun!

 

[Chicken Run]

Perhaps Patel sees herself as the new Albert Pierrepoint.

What next on the Tory wish list, legalised torture for those that say 'no comment' when questioned by the Police, 50 lashes for protesting against the Government, Concentration Camps for immigrants and other undesirables.......

Terrible that the return of the death penalty is even being considered

So it’s actually being considered then?

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

No, but prison sentences for murder should reflect the savagery of the crime. Life should mean life, with no half period sentences for good conduct and no living conditions that would probably get a winners plaque on “ Four in a bed”

 

[BN41Albion]

Never going to happen, obviously.

 

[Comrade Sam]

Time for my favourite Trotsky quote:
"Fascism has opened up the depths of society for politics. Today, not only in peasant homes but also in city skyscrapers, there lives alongside of the twentieth century the tenth or the thirteenth. A hundred million people use electricity and still believe in the magic power of signs and exorcisms. The Pope of Rome broadcasts over the radio about the miraculous transformation of water into wine. Movie stars go to mediums. Aviators who pilot miraculous mechanisms created by man’s genius wear amulets on their sweaters. What inexhaustible reserves they possess of darkness, ignorance, and savagery! Despair has raised them to their feet fascism has given them a banner. Everything that should have been eliminated from the national organism in the form of cultural excrement in the course of the normal development of society has now come gushing out from the throat; capitalist society is puking up the undigested barbarism. Such is the physiology of National Socialism."

 

[GT49er]

So it’s actually being considered then?

I very much doubt it, not in most of our lifetimes anyway.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Why should killing someone be legal if it is in the name of the state.

It would mean descending to the level of trump as he seeks to establish new levels of barbarism.

No, no and thrice no.!

 

[Chicken Run]

I very much doubt it, not in most of our lifetimes anyway.

Well that’s what I thought but the way some people are responding on this thread I wanted to fact check to be sure.

 

[The Clamp]

...is the word on the street anyways. Apparently Priti Patel, spawn of Satan (who we know is very big supporter of capital punishment), is rather keen on reintroducing it.
https://twitter.com/BameFor/status/1342495556732649478?s=20

Just when you thought this current government couldn't scrape the depths of evil and depravity any further, they come along with this. There's not many things that would genuinely make me consider leaving the country and moving elsewhere, but this is one of them. Would be interested for NSC's thought's on this. Meanwhile, here's the magnificent Ian Hislop absolutely rinsing Patel on this very subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU

Absolutely awful woman, and an absolutely callous, vile politician, which is very on-brand for this government

Let's have a referendum.

 

[TomandJerry]

Let's have a referendum.

I doubt the establishment will give us a vote for a long time

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