[Politics] Reintroducing the death penalty

[TomandJerry]

I would argue that lifetime in prison is more of a punishment than a death sentence, especially for child abusers. Most of them find prison time so hard they try to kill themselves anyway.

What costs more, a lifetime of meals or a quick bullet/electric shock?

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[BBassic]

Can't call ourselves a civilised society if we kill people as punishment.

 

[Acker79]

What costs more, a lifetime of meals or a quick bullet/electric shock?

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I don't know the process in the UK, but in the US, life imprisonment is cheaper.

"It's 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive," though most Americans believe the opposite, said Donald McCartin, a former California jurist known as "The Hanging Judge of Orange County" for sending nine men to death row.

Deep into retirement, he lost his faith in an eye for an eye and now speaks against it. What changed a mind so set on the ultimate punishment?

'Waste of time and money'California's legendarily slow appeals system, which produces an average wait of nearly 20 years from conviction to fatal injection — the longest in the nation. Of the nine convicted killers McCartin sent to death row, only one has died. Not by execution, but from a heart attack in custody.​

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna29552692

 

[TomandJerry]

I don't believe that cost efficiency should be considered when it comes to the judicial system.

The money saved could be used on more useful things, such as rehabilitation for drug offenders, mental health services.



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[Cheshire Cat]

What costs more, a lifetime of meals or a quick bullet/electric shock?

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Completely stupid, irresponsible and irrelevant comment.

 

[macbeth]

What costs more, a lifetime of meals or a quick bullet/electric shock?

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The death penalty, actually

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs

 

[Whitechapel]

What costs more, a lifetime of meals or a quick bullet/electric shock?

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Not the option you think.

“ In California, the death penalty has cost more than $4 billion since 1978. That includes the costs of trials, appeals, and incarceration on death row. In 2019, the California governor issued a moratorium on the death penalty.

In Florida, enforcing the death penalty costs $51 million a year more than it would have to give all first-degree murderers life in prison without parole.

In North Carolina, death penalty cases cost $2.16 million per execution more than sentencing murderers to life imprisonment.”

https://www.thebalance.com/comparing-the-costs-of-death-penalty-vs-life-in-prison-4689874

 

[The Wizard]

The death penalty is utterly repulsive. Absolutely not.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Anyone that supports the death sentence clearly places more trust in the police, CPS and authorities than is healthy. An absolute no from me.

 

[TomandJerry]

Not the option you think.

“ In California, the death penalty has cost more than $4 billion since 1978. That includes the costs of trials, appeals, and incarceration on death row. In 2019, the California governor issued a moratorium on the death penalty.

In Florida, enforcing the death penalty costs $51 million a year more than it would have to give all first-degree murderers life in prison without parole.

In North Carolina, death penalty cases cost $2.16 million per execution more than sentencing murderers to life imprisonment.”

https://www.thebalance.com/comparing-the-costs-of-death-penalty-vs-life-in-prison-4689874

I suppose it's which country you'd like to take the facts from.

America certainly isn't the only country in the world with the death penalty still active and being used.



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[Gwylan]

The danger of killing innocent people is an effective argument but one of the main reasons why the death penalty was abolished in this country was that juries were beginning to become more reluctant to convict (although the Evans, Bentley and Ellis cases had an influence there).

Certainly if I were on a jury for a capital case I would find anyone not guilty whatever the evidence and I've quite a few people suggest similar sentiments.

I really can't see it coming back, even the US is starting to have second thoughts about the whole sorry process.

 

[Whitechapel]

I suppose it's which country you'd like to take the facts from.

America certainly isn't the only country in the world with the death penalty still active and being used.



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I see. So do you want us to follow in the human rights footsteps of Saudi Arabia or China?

 

[lawros left foot]

The money saved could be used on more useful things, such as rehabilitation for drug offenders, mental health services.



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How about decriminalising drugs?
Two thirds of prison sentences are for drug offences, spend the money saved on imprisoning drug offenders on education, and drug treatment on the NHS.
Make our drug policy based on health rather than criminalisation.

 

[TomandJerry]

How about decriminalising drugs?
Two thirds of prison sentences are for drug offences, spend the money saved on imprisoning drug offenders on education, and drug treatment on the NHS.
Make our drug policy based on health rather than criminalisation.

I support the Portuguese way of dealing with drugs if it was an option. Which it isn't given the current government.

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[TomandJerry]

I see. So do you want us to follow in the human rights footsteps of Saudi Arabia or China?

Of course not. It's about having the correct balance.

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[Biscuit Barrel]

Jimmy Saville is already dead

I'd only bring it back for politicians.

And anyone who voted leave judging by your Christmas day post.

 

[Biscuit Barrel]

I was reading the other day that there is still 1 state in America that still allow death by firing squad.

A weird country.

 

[Deadly Danson]

You have to be pretty savage and dangerously stupid to believe the death penalty is anything other than an abhorrent idea. Which means there's a decent chunk of this country's cretins which will support it in the same way as they support every other ridiculous policy that has sent this country spiralling into the mess it's in. Luckily even for most Tories this is a step too far so won't happen.

 

[Badger]

But it's such a good deterent. Just look at the US, there's no murders there anymore.

 

[TomandJerry]

But it's such a good deterent. Just look at the US, there's no murders there anymore.

Unfortunately killings happen when anyone can get hold of a gun like it's a packet of crisps. Including those with mental health issues

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