[Politics] Reintroducing the death penalty

[ATFC Seagull]

If there was reasonable doubt then you wouldn't be there.

So what is the extra level of burden of proof you would introduce for the death penalty?

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[OzMike]

So what is the extra level of burden of proof you would introduce for the death penalty?

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Being caught red handed or being beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Being caught red handed or being beyond reasonable doubt.

But you just said that all those convicted should be beyond reasonable doubt?

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[Tim Over Whelmed]

How could any free and fair society support the use of murder to punish those that have murdered somebody? An evil crime yes, but murdering someone for murdering someone isn't right.

We have to make prisons places of rehabilitation, allowing those to gain luxuries / privilege by doing the right thing and not allowing "luxuries" to those that don't. We have to take the claim culture out of prisons and stop this waste of public money, and use the money to train and equip prisoners to not reoffend.

 

[herecomesaregular]

But then you're creating tiers of guilt. If I was doing life but was not deemed to be proven guilty enough for the death penalty, then I'd question how I'm guilty enough to be in prison.

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Tiers re levels of crime and tiers re level of punishment. Don't see why there have to be tiers of guilt?

 

[beorhthelm]

But then you're creating tiers of guilt. If I was doing life but was not deemed to be proven guilty enough for the death penalty, then I'd question how I'm guilty enough to be in prison.

its not tiers of guilt but a reflection of the severity, heinousness of the crime. we already do this, one burglar gets community service, another gets 5 years, another might get 15.

 

[drew]

Being caught red handed or being beyond reasonable doubt.

Beyond reasonable doubt was what got the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 banged up!!!

 

[ATFC Seagull]

its not tiers of guilt but a reflection of the severity, heinousness of the crime. we already do this, one burglar gets community service, another gets 5 years, another might get 15.

That's not what is being discussed though. It's this idea of "I'd introduce it but only for people that are definitely guilty".

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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I'm sorry but this post is paranoid radical nonsense.

Can you name a single example of something that has gone "from ridiculous, to normal, to demanded" in this country?

Boris Johnson the dictator... or Dear Leader Johnson if you like.... now I've heard everything

Wine bars

Mobile phones

Deliveroo

Equal pay for women

Brexit

 

[vagabond]

Is this really a discussion?

Wow. Sad times.

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

Is this really a discussion?

Wow. Sad times.

for the people murdered or the relatives?

 

[Hamilton]

Can someone just tell me, putting aside matters of war or self-defence, is it wrong to take another person’s life?


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[GREASED WEASEL]

Can someone just tell me, putting aside matters of war or self-defence, is it wrong to take another person’s life?


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you missed out or murder