Question Time

[Lord Bracknell]

Is a life without children ever going to be an improved life? For many people this will not be the case, no matter how little they have.

Where there is the sort of poverty that we're talking about, not having children would obviously lead to a little more to go around for the people affected. Yes, over-population is an enormous problem, and birth control education needs to improve enormously. It would be great if families were of a 'sensible' size.

However, there is not enough desire to spread the wealth and reduce poverty - the prospects of these people will only be improved if governments in these places (and worldwide) put in the support and policies needed to do this. Otherwise, hypothetically as you say, not having children will mean that those in poverty will simply die off. Some might consider this a solution to the problem, others might consider it a little unethical.

Experience throughout the world demonstrates that people who are in 'real' poverty need children to support them, especially in old age, because no-one else will.

 

[User removed 4]

Bushy doesn't like him because he's not white, working class and 100% English and he is more intelligent and succesful than Bushy. This is the reason Bushy doesn't like anyone that isn't like him. Essentially Bushy is a racist and the worst kind of racist, one who tries to use "intelligent" arguments to back up his luddite views but is not intelligent enough to realise people see straight through it. It's no coincidence that he sited Jim Davidson as his favourite comedian. Or that he is jealous of other races being succesful. It's why he hates the ethnic population he lives amongst, because he is upset that someone he believes is inferior to him has made it to the same point in life he has. Inside he is enraged and bitter at this.

do f*** off nibble ! you've actually made my day as the only one silly enough to respond to my bit of jim davidson fishing, you really are a berk hahahaha , As for not liking him ? I wouldnt even say I dislike him, I just dont fall for the con trick he has perpetrated on middle class fools like you who are so eager to patronise him , I mean how in the name of all thats holy can you take someone seriously who produces such gems as
"Talking Turkey "

Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas
Cos' turkeys just wanna hav fun
Turkeys are cool, turkeys are wicked
An every turkey has a Mum.
Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas,
Don't eat it, keep it alive,
It could be yu mate, an not on your plate
Say, Yo! Turkey I'm on your side.

I got lots of friends who are turkeys
An all of dem fear christmas time,
Dey wanna enjoy it, dey say humans destroyed it
An humans are out of dere mind,
Yeah, I got lots of friends who are turkeys
Dey all hav a right to a life,
Not to be caged up an genetically made up
By any farmer an his wife.

Turkeys just wanna play reggae
Turkeys just wanna hip-hop
Can yu imagine a nice young turkey saying,
'I cannot wait for de chop',
Turkeys like getting presents, dey wanna watch christmas TV,
Turkeys hav brains an turkeys feel pain
In many ways like yu an me.

I once knew a turkey called........ Turkey
He said "Benji explain to me please,
Who put de turkey in christmas
An what happens to christmas trees?",
I said "I am not too sure turkey
But it's nothing to do wid Christ Mass
Humans get greedy an waste more dan need be
An business men mek loadsa cash'.

Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
Invite dem indoors fe sum greens
Let dem eat cake an let dem partake
In a plate of organic grown beans,
Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
An spare dem de cut of de knife,
Join Turkeys United an dey'll be delighted
An yu will mek new friends 'FOR LIFE'.

 

[Ernest]

The guy is a bigger cock than Atilla and his poems so that says something

Just corrected that for you

 

[Hamilton]

Well made point , very convincing counter argument you've made there , I mean it's not as if you've just fallen back on a lazy, ill thought out accusation of racism as a catch all term that will appeal to the groovy gang on here is it ?

Bloody hell. That's the pot calling the kettle black!

 

[Nibble]

do f*** off nibble ! you've actually made my day as the only one silly enough to respond to my bit of jim davidson fishing, you really are a berk hahahaha , As for not liking him ? I wouldnt even say I dislike him, I just dont fall for the con trick he has perpetrated on middle class fools like you who are so eager to patronise him , I mean how in the name of all thats holy can you take someone seriously who produces such gems as
"Talking Turkey "

Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas
Cos' turkeys just wanna hav fun
Turkeys are cool, turkeys are wicked
An every turkey has a Mum.
Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas,
Don't eat it, keep it alive,
It could be yu mate, an not on your plate
Say, Yo! Turkey I'm on your side.

I got lots of friends who are turkeys
An all of dem fear christmas time,
Dey wanna enjoy it, dey say humans destroyed it
An humans are out of dere mind,
Yeah, I got lots of friends who are turkeys
Dey all hav a right to a life,
Not to be caged up an genetically made up
By any farmer an his wife.

Turkeys just wanna play reggae
Turkeys just wanna hip-hop
Can yu imagine a nice young turkey saying,
'I cannot wait for de chop',
Turkeys like getting presents, dey wanna watch christmas TV,
Turkeys hav brains an turkeys feel pain
In many ways like yu an me.

I once knew a turkey called........ Turkey
He said "Benji explain to me please,
Who put de turkey in christmas
An what happens to christmas trees?",
I said "I am not too sure turkey
But it's nothing to do wid Christ Mass
Humans get greedy an waste more dan need be
An business men mek loadsa cash'.

Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
Invite dem indoors fe sum greens
Let dem eat cake an let dem partake
In a plate of organic grown beans,
Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
An spare dem de cut of de knife,
Join Turkeys United an dey'll be delighted
An yu will mek new friends 'FOR LIFE'.

Jim Davidson aside you have given enough of yourself away to reveal yourself to be a racist. I'm not eager to please him or like him even, it's your fervid, overtly racist response to his existence that I'm commenting on. Where have I said anything about him inrelation to my opinion of him. I was talking about my opinion of you and your racism.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Bloody hell. That's the pot calling the kettle black!

Racist

 

[User removed 4]

Jim Davidson aside you have given enough of yourself away to reveal yourself to be a racist. I'm not eager to please him or like him even, it's your fervid, overtly racist response to his existence that I'm commenting on. Where have I said anything about him inrelation to my opinion of him. I was talking about my opinion of you and your racism.

Nibble, you really aren't very bright are you , all you can do is hurl accusations of racism, because you haven't the nous or wherewithal to construct a proper counter argument , if my position and what i've said today makes me a racist in your mind , so be it , call me what you want.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Bloody hell. That's the pot calling the kettle black!

Racist

Only if the pot was white. If the pot and kettle were both black they can call each other nigga and it would be fine.

 

[Nibble]

Nibble, you really aren't very bright are you , all you can do is hurl accusations of racism, because you haven't the nous or wherewithal to construct a proper counter argument , if my position and what i've said today makes me a racist in your mind , so be it , call me what you want.

I haven't needed to construct a counter argument. You have dug your own sordid little hole for yourself. Your opinion never falters, never wavers and never fails to be an ill thought out, poorly researched flurry of bile and racism. You know it and everyone on here knows it. It's a shame you don't have the balls to admit it.

 

[sten_super]

I haven't needed to construct a counter argument. You have dug your own sordid little hole for yourself. Your opinion never falters, never wavers and never fails to be an ill thought out, poorly researched flurry of bile and racism. You know it and everyone on here knows it. It's a shame you don't have the balls to admit it.

Let's be honest though, Zephania is a COMPLETE twat.

 

[Nibble]

Let's be honest though, Zephania is a COMPLETE twat.

Don't know enough about the man to call that yet.

 

[User removed 4]

Let's be honest though, Zephania is a COMPLETE twat.

He is indeed, but the nibble's of this world are falling over themselves to patronise the pooor downtrodden black man, who has triumphed over adversity, if being expelled from school at 13 and serving a sentence for domestic burglary is adversity, they just cant help themselves , its a case of the emperors new clothes, his poetry is total and utter shit, a 4 year old could do better , yet he is feted with offers of OBE's , and appearnces on question time etc

 

[BigGully]

You're just ranting.

What about people who have been in work, decide to have a family and then lose their job?

How about people who decided to have a family, then made a mistake and overstretched themselves financially?

How about a couple who thought they loved each other, had a family, they made a joint decision that the mother would look after the kids while the father worked, then split up and the mother finds herself with no relevant skills in a tough job market?

How about a woman, who got a bit drunk, made a mistake and slept with an idiot, got pregnant?

His post was specifically about a woman/man/family who is on benefits and decides to continue to have babies.

 

[Hamilton]

He is indeed, but the nibble's of this world are falling over themselves to patronise the pooor downtrodden black man, who has triumphed over adversity, if being expelled from school at 13 and serving a sentence for domestic burglary is adversity, they just cant help themselves , its a case of the emperors new clothes, his poetry is total and utter shit, a 4 year old could do better , yet he is feted with offers of OBE's , and appearnces on question time etc

Yawn.

 

[Nibble]

He is indeed, but the nibble's of this world are falling over themselves to patronise the pooor downtrodden black man, who has triumphed over adversity, if being expelled from school at 13 and serving a sentence for domestic burglary is adversity, they just cant help themselves , its a case of the emperors new clothes, his poetry is total and utter shit, a 4 year old could do better , yet he is feted with offers of OBE's , and appearnces on question time etc

But they already had someone to represent the Bushy's of this world, Nick Griffin and he was torn to shreds.

 

[JCL666]

Well made point , very convincing counter argument you've made there , I mean it's not as if you've just fallen back on a lazy, ill thought out accusation of racism as a catch all term that will appeal to the groovy gang on here is it ?

Not really. You continually spout this crap and then hide behind some sort of "been there done it all man of the people" shit.

I'd rather be in the groovy gang than the bushy bunch.

 

[BigGully]

You suspect right.

Although I'm not sure that simply increasing the minimum wage would be enough. There also need to be incentives to ensure that employers pay the proper rate for the job. There are far too many real jobs in the economy that are priced at such a low hourly rate as to ensure that committed, skilled workers feel disengaged from the culture of employment.

As someone that runs a small business turning a small profit and employs casual workers that I pay considerably more than the minimum wage, I too wonder why some large companies feel it imperative to pay such low wages and still deem themselves viable.

I guess previously they were paying even lower wages and we are told it keeps them competitive.

 

[User removed 4]

But they already had someone to represent the Bushy's of this world, Nick Griffin and he was torn to shreds.

Apart from the fact I'm not a BNP voter , I seem to remember that griffin was just basically shouted down by the audience and the panel, nobody really tore him to shreds , You might've wanted that , but it really didn't happpen.

 

[Nibble]

Considering he left school at 13 unable to read or write and encourages children to read and write I think he is doing alright actually.

 

[Nibble]

Apart from the fact I'm not a BNP voter , I seem to remember that griffin was just basically shouted down by the audience and the panel, nobody really tore him to shreds , You might've wanted that , but it really didn't happpen.

Actually, no I wanted to hear what he had to say and yes, there was a degree of the audience drowning him out but I suppose when you go about spouting racist horse shit you're gonna get that response!