[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[Marty___Mcfly]

Yet no word whether the Gov have relaxed position on use of clubs own grounds instead of neutral venues.

I don't think that is a Government requirement. It is just a matter which needs to be agreed with the Police. To me it seems resolvable. Just needs the clubs to fund the matchday police operation which I believe they do for every game normally. The nature of the operation will be different. Get Gov to issue new legislation with big fines for anyone who turns up to congregate around a football ground on matchday. Cordon off the area around every ground. If any fans turn up, issue fines / arrest / disperse.

Any fans who do turn up, in the current scenario, are absolute numpties. Staying at home and watching the match on TV will surely be a preferable option for 99.9% of the population. Also we have a month on Bundesliga games to see how things go with this issue over there- we can learn from any issues which arise. And from all the other countries re-starting behind closed doors. We are not alone in the world in trying to get games back up and running.

 

[essbee1]

I don't think that is a Government requirement. It is just a matter which needs to be agreed with the Police. To me it seems resolvable. Just needs the clubs to fund the matchday police operation which I believe they do for every game normally. The nature of the operation will be different. Get Gov to issue new legislation with big fines for anyone who turns up to congregate around a football ground on matchday. Cordon off the area around every ground. If any fans turn up, issue fines / arrest / disperse.

Any fans who do turn up, in the current scenario, are absolute numpties. Staying at home and watching the match on TV will surely be a preferable option for 99.9% of the population. Also we have a month on Bundesliga games to see how things go with this issue over there- we can learn from any issues which arise. And from all the other countries re-starting behind closed doors. We are not alone in the world in trying to get games back up and running.

Could you give us your impression of how many police would be required at say, Anfield, to stop thousands of fans arriving?

 

[Seasider78]

I don't think that is a Government requirement. It is just a matter which needs to be agreed with the Police. To me it seems resolvable. Just needs the clubs to fund the matchday police operation which I believe they do for every game normally. The nature of the operation will be different. Get Gov to issue new legislation with big fines for anyone who turns up to congregate around a football ground on matchday. Cordon off the area around every ground. If any fans turn up, issue fines / arrest / disperse.

Any fans who do turn up, in the current scenario, are absolute numpties. Staying at home and watching the match on TV will surely be a preferable option for 99.9% of the population. Also we have a month on Bundesliga games to see how things go with this issue over there- we can learn from any issues which arise. And from all the other countries re-starting behind closed doors. We are not alone in the world in trying to get games back up and running.

I am not saying it is not possible but the premier league said the decision is one made by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) who (whilst consulting with the Police and ‘science’ over the option) will be the ones who give it the green light or not.

Just seems odd with all of this green light to go talk it is not being mentioned considering there was a majority opposition to neutral grounds at the last PL meeting

 

[Icy Gull]

Could you give us your impression of how many police would be required at say, Anfield, to stop thousands of fans arriving?

I think I saw that the Liverpool chairman said that he could see fans turning up at Anfield on the day they could tie up the league ....whether the game was played at home or away or at a neutral ground

 

[nwgull]

Could you give us your impression of how many police would be required at say, Anfield, to stop thousands of fans arriving?

None, if their fans can act like adults - it should just require a press release. Let those that turn up outside Anfield to a locked doors game that's being shown on free-to-air telly show the world what a bunch of selfish knobs they are and let Darwinism take its course.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Again I would question why there is an idea that Liverpool / the Prem are unique in this situation? This issue will be addressed successfully in Germany and elsewhere so I cannot see why England is seen as a special case.

Fans need to be convinced to not turn up. It cannot be beyond the capacities of the authorities to achieve this. then deal with any small numbers of numpties who do turn up.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Again I would question why there is an idea that Liverpool / the Prem are unique in this situation? This issue will be addressed successfully in Germany and elsewhere so I cannot see why England is seen as a special case.

Fans need to be convinced to not turn up. It cannot be beyond the capacities of the authorities to achieve this. then deal with any small numbers of numpties who do turn up.

Don't keep comparing Germany with the UK. They had a far smaller problem with coronavirus than we did and it is still bad here in some parts of the country. Secondly, maybe the fact that Liverpool have not won the title in 30 years or so has something to do with the worries?

 

[rippleman]

I think I saw that the Liverpool chairman said that he could see fans turning up at Anfield on the day they could tie up the league ....whether the game was played at home or away or at a neutral ground

Not the sharpest tools in the box then are they?

How about docking teams 25 points if their fans turn up at the behind closed door games? Only needs an emergency resolution. That should focus the minds of clubs to ensure their fans don't turn up.

Extreme measure? Yes. But it's an extreme situation in extreme times.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Not sure if it's been posted already, but Troy Deeney, another experienced and influential players, like Glenn, is very much against 'Project Restart'

https://talksport.com/football/706265/troy-deeney-premier-league-project-restart/

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Not sure if it's been posted already, but Troy Deeney, another experienced and influential players, like Glenn, is very much against 'Project Restart'

https://talksport.com/football/706265/troy-deeney-premier-league-project-restart/

Yes, but he’s another who captains a RELEGATION THREATENED SIDE, so his concerns will again be thrown in the dustbin marked ‘self-interest’.

(There is a reason why Sergio Aguero’s concerns are being given no airtime - harder to pigeon-hole)

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Don't keep comparing Germany with the UK. They had a far smaller problem with coronavirus than we did and it is still bad here in some parts of the country. Secondly, maybe the fact that Liverpool have not won the title in 30 years or so has something to do with the worries?

Again I think it is necessary to look at the projections for where we will be in a month's time. The exponential decline which is occurring suggests that it will be a much, much smaller problem come June. Even fans gathering will be a much lesser concern in that context.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Again I think it is necessary to look at the projections for where we will be in a month's time. The exponential decline which is occurring suggests that it will be a much, much smaller problem come June. Even fans gathering will be a much lesser concern in that context.

And that’s nothing to do with the success of lockdown ? A lockdown that is now being gradually lifted. I hope you are right but it does sound a little naive.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yes, but he’s another who captains a RELEGATION THREATENED SIDE, so his concerns will again be thrown in the dustbin marked ‘self-interest’.

(There is a reason why Sergio Aguero’s concerns are being given no airtime - harder to pigeon-hole)

True. And very annoying.

The ONLY reason that the Scousers and massively entitled Leeds fans want the season to restart is "self interest". Ditto all the bilge that is coming out of Neville and Carragher at the moment. Sky are losing money hand over fist and desperately need some sport to show to start recharging people for Sky Sports packages. The longer it goes on, the more people may realise they can do without Sky (I'm seriously thinking about not restarting unless it's the only place you can see games). But as soon as experienced pros from teams towards the bottom pipe up it's self interest.

I'd also put to those crying Liverpool fans and desperate Leeds fans what they'd think about this:

The season has an average of nine games remaining per club. Two things have changed in my parallel universe. Firstly, Liverpool can still be realistically caught and secondly there is no coronavirus. It is then arbitrarily decided to have a two to three month mid season break and then play all the rest of the games at neutral venues, behind closed doors. Let's take the danger of the situation right out, like Carragher and Neville would like us to, and just focus on that. It's ****ing nuts, right?

 

[atomised]

Yes, but he’s another who captains a RELEGATION THREATENED SIDE, so his concerns will again be thrown in the dustbin marked ‘self-interest’.

(There is a reason why Sergio Aguero’s concerns are being given no airtime - harder to pigeon-hole)

Same.goes for.Sterlings comments then. At least we know when we play city 2 key players dont really want to be there

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

And that’s nothing to do with the success of lockdown ? A lockdown that is now being gradually lifted. I hope you are right but it does sound a little naive.

In scientific terms, if the R value is kept below 1 the virus can only decrease. The projections Governments around the world are using suggest that once you have a reducing virus and keep the R value below 1 it is possible to release lockdown without the R value going above 1. If it stays below 1 it can only get smaller.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Not sure if it's been posted already, but Troy Deeney, another experienced and influential players, like Glenn, is very much against 'Project Restart'

https://talksport.com/football/706265/troy-deeney-premier-league-project-restart/

Add his mugshot to the MOST WANTED gallery.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Not the sharpest tools in the box then are they?

How about docking teams 25 points if their fans turn up at the behind closed door games? Only needs an emergency resolution. That should focus the minds of clubs to ensure their fans don't turn up.

Extreme measure? Yes. But it's an extreme situation in extreme times.

That would cause unintended problems. Let's all traipse off to Selhurst and get palace docked 25 points shall we?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

In scientific terms, if the R value is kept below 1 the virus can only decrease. The projections Governments around the world are using suggest that once you have a reducing virus and keep the R value below 1 it is possible to release lockdown without the R value going above 1. If it stays below 1 it can only get smaller.

Of course. However with a natural R of 3 there is a real risk of a second peak if you release lockdown too soon. We need significantly lower infection rates across the country if we are going to get to the stage of living with and not being overwhelmed by the virus. The lockdown is being eased this early (rightly or wrongly) for short term economic, not long term health, reasons. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it will be a shame if impatience to finish 2019/20 causes cancellation of 2020/21.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Of course. However with a natural R of 3 there is a real risk of a second peak if you release lockdown too soon. We need significantly lower infection rates across the country if we are going to get to the stage of living with and not being overwhelmed by the virus. The lockdown is being eased this early (rightly or wrongly) for short term economic, not long term health, reasons. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it will be a shame if impatience to finish 2019/20 causes cancellation of 2020/21.

IF we're down to 24 new cases per day in London- how low do you want to go before releasing measures?!

 

[Acker79]

I think, in an ideal world in response to these comments a restart would lead to liverpool losing all their remaining games (combination of no crowd to cheer them on, and covid-19 ravaging their squad, though all players making a full recovery, of course) and being pipped to the title by City, leeds dropping out of the promotion places (not bothered if it just slips away as previously, or if it's a result of covid infections) and falling short again, and Brighton winning all but one of their remaining games (we'd have to lose to City for them to win the title).