[Albion] Pedro's "challenge" on Walton

[dazzer6666]

Borderline, would have had no complaints if he'd been sent off.

 

[Braggfan]

leading with his shoulder?
or turning, trying to stop himself, after sprinting for 20 yards?

Again, in rugby that would be irrelevant. Hitting someone's head with your shoulder is dangerous, full stop.

 

[Brovion]

Hmm, it doesn't look very good does it. Red wouldn't be that harsh or incorrect IMO...

Yeah, tend to agree. Whilst I think a red would have been harsh and I'd have probably chuntered on about it, I couldn't hand on heart, say it was definitely the wrong decision.

 

[The Fits]

Psychotic?

Have a cup of tea mate, and think about something else. for a while.

Do you think it’s normal behaviour to try and able someone in the head?

leading with his shoulder?
or turning, trying to stop himself, after sprinting for 20 yards?

Respectfully it’s you who needs the tea, ‘mate’.
He jumped into Walton. That was absolutely intentionally. Whether or not it was a red is up for debate, what actually happened isn’t.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Does Pedro want a holiday or something?

 

[GloryDays]

He's crossed the line there and he's been very lucky a for couple of games now.

The no-contact elbow should have been a red IMO, and now the full contact no-elbow on Walton which could easily have been a red.

Must be keen for a few games rest.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Irony that he would have gone in Rugby for that. I'm just hoping that was a spare decision of fortune we had in the bank, available to spend.

In MMA he would have been booed for backing out......

 

[GloryDays]

Maybe if JP had come off worse people would be demanding a red for Walton? Both players were fully committed.

Walton doesn't look fully committed. He looks like a victim. It's a horrendous bit of football from Pendro.

 

[The Albion Roar]

I’m clearly in the minority but I think that’s just a foul. Assuming that his ‘intentions’ were to genuinely get the ball, he realises he’s not getting to it first and turns his body to minimise the damage done to the keeper.

Overzealous for sure and a foul, but can’t see the argument for a red card at all.

You've contradicted yourself. 'Over-zealous' IS the main argument for a red card.

 

[FloatLeft]

I’ve just watched the highlights, and that is very naughty from Pedro.

Anyone defending it has massive seagulls coloured spectacles on.

It’s a red and an absolute lack of respect (and care) for a fellow footballer from Pedro.

 

[Coldeanseagull]

I get bumped like that all the time on the tube.

Stop walking on the tracks then!

 

[Krafty]

I think it's a yellow. He's gone for the ball and his momentum has caused a collision with the keeper. It seems like it is body to body rather than a head collision. If Pedro's arm was raised slightly higher then it would've been nasty and a straight red - that's what I was dreading at first.

Another close one for Pedro after that arm swing which nearly collided with the head of the Brentford player. He needs to watch out.

 

[Bozza]

Keith Hackett:

“This is a nailed on red card for Serious Foul Play. He knows exactly what he is doing. This is a challenge with excessive force that endangers the safety of the goalkeeper.

“Referees should not await the outcome to see if the goalkeeper has s injured or not. Totally unacceptable and I would suggest that the Referee and VAR require some operational advice.

“Here is the law: Serious foul play: A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

“Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.”

 

[Barry Izbak]

I cannot get away from thinking if that was Delap on Verbruggen, the poll result would be very different.

If you don't think that was a red card, you need to give your head a wobble

 

[macbeth]

palace fans being totally normal about this, i see

 

[Whitley Bayster]

Absolute tosh. He had every right to go for the ball. What he meant to do stop in mid air. His body shape shows he was trying to mitigate the impact. Right decision all day long

 

[pb21]

Absolute tosh. He had every right to go for the ball. What he meant to do stop in mid air. His body shape shows he was trying to mitigate the impact. Right decision all day long

He obviously has a right to go for the ball, the question is did he use excessive force or brutality, or (I guess unreasonably/recklessly) endanger the safety of Walton?

 

[worthingseagull]

running full pelt and walton then moved straight into his path - accidental coming together

 

[m20gull]

Borderline, would have had no complaints if he'd been sent off.

Likewise. I'm guessing if the ref had shown a red the VAR wouldn't have overturned it.

 

[Gazwag]

I thought whilst watching it at the ground that there was a poor underhit backpass by the Ipswich defender and Pedro had every right to go for it and that both his and the keeper's momentum was always likely to result in a collision as both went for the ball.

Pedro then realised that he probably isn't getting there first or they will get there at the same time and it would be a heavy hit so tried to stop but was going to fast to be able to stop and avoid any collision so he's probably tried to minimise the collision and likely jumped to reduce the risk of injury to himself (aka taking action to protect himself such as trying to avoid studs getting caught in the turf when contact is made & lessen the impact on himself when as he knew he was about to get hit) rather than intending to cause injury to the keeper. (Which is probably what VAR and the ref decided happened too and why neither decided it was a red card offense)

At the time i thought it was a harsh booking (both players committed to try to win the ball and then one tried to stop but couldn't so tried to minimise it) but can see why a yellow was given but I didn't and still don't see it as a red card offense, but it's probably one of those where if it had been given by the ref, VAR wouldn't have overturned it either. (I suspect if a red was given, a lot would be calling it harsh, jusging that he was entitled to go for it due to the poor backpass and it was a natural coming together of 2 committed players trying to get on the end of it first)

This is exactly as I saw it watching on TV