[Albion] Pedro's "challenge" on Walton

[CHAPPERS]

Very little reaction from the Ipswich players to the challenge or the yellow card.

 

[Milano]

Other way around context - goalkeepers seem to get away with this stuff all the time though - Pickford anyone? FWIW I voted 'red'; I thought so in real time and haven't changed my mind.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I haven’t spoken to any supporter of another team who hasn’t thought that the elbow was not just a red but that was also psychotic.

Psychotic?

Have a cup of tea mate, and think about something else. for a while.

 

[GT49er]

Yellow - I think he was trying to stop, the way his hands were out it looked as if he was trying to protect himself. Not intentional*, so not a red.

* although of course we have no inside knowledge of hat his brain was thinking, it's just the impression I got.

 

[Eeyore]

Red I'm afraid. But the ref chickened out by giving a yellow thus putting the onus on VAR, who just agreed with the on pitch decision.
Challenge like that on the Albion keeper we would be screaming for a red.

Yes, I wonder what the poll would have looked like if that was a challenge on our keeper by Delap...

The more I view it, the more it's a red. VAR would not have overturned it. Pedro doesn't clash with Walton he leaps into him and strikes his head with his upper arm. He didn't have to jump at him, even if he couldn't stop.

Suggestions that it is yellow are self defeating. If it is a foul, how is leaping into a player and striking his head not dangerous play ?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I wonder what those who said no foul/yellow would have said if Delap had done that on Bart.....

I would have thought yellow at most in that instance too, as both players were committed to try to get to the ball first, the forward was entitled to go for it, and a collision was probably inevitable as a result.

 

[Justice]

Funny old world I’ve seen posters say they want to sign Delap to rough up the opposition, Pedro does exactly that and apparently deserves red cards
They can hardly give that as a red when keepers have actively wiped out players over the last couple of seasons and got away with it.

 

[Eeyore]

I said on the match thread, it's bizarre that in football that's open to interpretation, yet rugby, which is clearly more physical, would see Pedro sent off.
He makes contact with Walton's head, with his shoulder. That should be a red all day long. I'm amazed with all the concussion rules brought in, they haven't done the same as rugby, with the shoulder to head challenge.

That's a good point. In Rugby that's a sending off. Leading with the shoulder.

 

[Eeyore]

Meh. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Schumaker should have been in prison for that. He didn't even get a yellow !

 

[studio150]

What is Pedro supposed to do, when going for the ball at full speed.

Usually when chasing down an under hit back pass, the keeper goes to ground to get the ball, and the forward jumps over the keeper on the ground. But in this instance Walton decides to kick the ball rather than going to ground to gather the ball, so Pedro can do very little to avoid the contact.

Not a red card for me.

 

[Washie]

The one time Pedro should have actually gone to ground. Slow him down and could have blocked the ball

 

[Arthritic Toe]

I think giving him a V sign just before the collision is a step too far:

 

[Guinness Boy]

That's exactly what I immediately thought - Is there foul play? Yes. Is there contact with the head? Yes. Any mitigation? No. There are some things rugby does well, this is one of them. Pedro could have done so much more to be less dangerous but he was entirely reckless and cowardly.

So if you're saying he was reckless that's a yellow......

 

[Eeyore]

So if you're saying he was reckless that's a yellow......

Yeah, that's pretty much my point. If it is a foul then jumping into a keeper with your feet raised and a leading shoulder is pretty reckless.

Irony that he would have gone in Rugby for that. I'm just hoping that was a spare decision of fortune we had in the bank, available to spend.

 

[AmexRuislip]

I get bumped like that all the time on the tube.

 

[highflyer]

Behaviour of JP, Estupinan and Veltman last night had me very much in 'Hans, are we the baddies?' territory.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

That's a good point. In Rugby that's a sending off. Leading with the shoulder.

Sure - but maybe that's because they are completely different sports, played by players with completely different physiques, using different parts of their bodies to compete for the ball.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Yeah, that's pretty much my point. If it is a foul then jumping into a keeper with your feet raised and a leading shoulder is pretty reckless.

Irony that he would have gone in Rugby for that. I'm just hoping that was a spare decision of fortune we had in the bank, available to spend.

leading with his shoulder?
or turning, trying to stop himself, after sprinting for 20 yards?

 

[Braggfan]

Sure - but maybe that's because they are completely different sports, played by players with completely different physiques, using different parts of their bodies to compete for the ball.

Yeah but one of those sports is rougher and allows much more physical contact and that sport would have sent Pedro off for dangerous play.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Dangerous at least, or reckless. Hit the goalie with his shoulder at some speed And I’m not convinced he thought he was going to get the ball. Not pleasant and not the sort of challenge I’d be happy about if it was one of ours.