No sane person is advocating “rounding up all Muslims” nor tarring them all with the same brush. But Militant Islam needs to be called out far more overtly — including (or especially) within the Muslim community itself. In the UK, even highly aggressive Islamism, like the school gates protests that send innocent teachers into hiding, needs to be called out at the highest levels. We send people to jail for nasty, ill-judged social media posts but seem to walk on eggshells around the dreadful intolerance found at the fringes of the Muslim community. These double standards are a source of great frustration for many people, and go a long way towards explaining the growing strength of groups like Reform.
I didn't say exactly that. But support for Israel is the wedge issue between the West and sections of the Muslim world. Would there be this conflict if the Jewish homeland was elsewhere? It's THE flashpoint for so much that has gone on.
Well I agree, militant islamisim does need to be called out more, but the right, and by this I'm describing much of that wing of the Tory party, not just the Tommy Robinson lot, blame Muslims as a whole, and don't bother with the nuances.
His side ?, that's a hell of a statement.
This ^
So no responsibility for the perpetrators of militant islamist massacres? That's the racism of tiny expectations, surely? Billions of Muslims & their multiple, super rich, super abusive to their subjects states can't cope with a nation the size of Wales, that was there millennia before they were in the area existing? So they have to bomb Arianna Grande concerts? & Christmas markets? & the regular rest. They just can't help themselves?
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Of course they are f***ing responsible, of course they are all evil bastards who should all rot in hell for eternity. But what are we talking about here? We're talking about stopping more of these from happening, because as sure as night follows day they are GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING and more poor innocents are going to die. So let's focus on why they are happening. All I ever hear are politiciana and people talking about how they are going to deal with it by locking the extremists up and chucking some bombs in the middle east and increasing police presence, and hey, it works to a point. But some always get through. I would quite like to remove the reason for them hating us in the first place.
I agree that Israel/Palestine is the kindling for a lot of extremists but I don't think that's why ISIS etc. sprang to life, it's much more to do with promoting their own twisted view of Islam that is completely intolerant of anything else. Thankfully it is a small minority but you don't need a majority to push a vile agenda and encourage those of a weak mind to follow.
ISIS and their ilk spring to life because they think their nationa leaders are decadent heretics who don't follow true Islam and are in the pockets of the Americans. It could be seen a a regional issue which we don't need to get involved in, if it wasn't for the fact that some of these nations sell us a lot of oil, and hatred of Israel and the west is a rallying call. Unpicking this is indeed hard because it's become established facts in their mindset
See, this is what always happens.
Who is "screaming racism" at you?
The person I was replying to, who accused me of spreading Islamophobia and described someone depicted as a being a right wing extremist who murdered five people as being “on my side”. Do try and keep up.
I’m still seeing it, with a poster above blaming the situation in Israel and the West alternately for anger amongst Muslims committing these atrocities. It’s not a defence, but certainly a deflection of moral culpability.
That’s a bit of a nonsense really isn’t it.
So we reward the "evil bastards" for all they've done by removing/annihilating the only tiny democratic state in the region? The only safe place for Jews in the region they're indigenous to?
