Mr Poyet..

[PILTDOWN MAN]

And the guy has never said he's perfect ..not many are ...and we could all nitpick until end of time

I agree but he is also stubborn, its fine to advocate his vision of how to play but great managers adapt their teams to get results, if it means diverting from the norm so be it. Look at Arsenal, haven't won the tittle for years why, because Wenger refusing to change his style even for one game.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I agree but he is also stubborn, its fine to advocate his vision of how to play but great managers adapt their teams to get results, if it means diverting from the norm so be it. Look at Arsenal, haven't won the tittle for years why, because Wenger refusing to change his style even for one game.

Fair enough...can't add to that

 

[catfish]

Mullery will always be my favourite manager due to the style and panache he infused the team with. But if Gus gets us to, and keeps us in the top flight, he will be his equal in the pantheon of Albion managers.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Mullery will always be my favourite manager due to the style and panache he infused the team with. But if Gus gets us to, and keeps us in the top flight, he will be his equal in the pantheon of Albion managers.

This.

 

[rocker959]

Potentially the very , very best by a country mile. Mullery still ahead in achievements at BHA and the excitement his teams gave which I was priviledged to witness but Gus will far exceed all before him in time.

 

[7:18]

Best in my lifetime for sure...

 

[trueblue]

Where to start? Barry Lloyd was better? Come off it. He did a decent job overall in hindsight but bar a couple of good seasons, it was a dismal depressing era. Knock the ball into the channels and hope. The play-off final season was good but almost took the club to the wall financially. With the likes of Colin Pates, they gambled on breaking into the top flight in time for the Premiership and when it didn't come off, it was downhill all the way as the team had to be broken up. I doubt you'd find a single player who'd rate Lloyd highly as a coach or manager though he did make some good signings (as well as some of the worst ever). Our football's boring? Personally I love watching us knock the ball about and play our way out of trouble. I'm not quite sure what style the likes of Mr Burns would prefer - maybe they'd be better off with a Stoke season ticket. The idea that Gus is defensive is nonsense, as anyone that watched us promoted in style will know. Unfortunately, it's just not so easy to dominate games in midfield at this level and therefore harder to release the wingers. The idea of playing two wide men and a pair up front is a nice theory but there's not much point. The wingers would still get pinned back helping out the midfield, leaving 2 strikers to mill about aimlessly. Poyet's way allows us to field a minimum of 4 attacking players in every game AND stay defensively sound at the same time. He's addressed the weak areas this summer as best he can within the budget and only the hold-the-ball-up striker is still missing. The suggestion that they won't allow us to be more attacking is stupid too. Both the new fullbacks like to get forward and Crofts has a very handy knack of arriving late in the box to score goals as well as being a ball-winner who can free up the likes of Buckley. That seemed to make an immediate difference against Chelsea where there was frequently the fluidity going forward that Poyet wants.

 

[Frutos]

But those signings, whilst shoring up the defense, are not going to generate extra goals for us.

Yes they will.

Adding Crofts to the base of the midfield along with Bridcutt will allow Buckley, Noone, Lua Lua and Vicente to play their natural games higher up the pitch, which will in turn lead to more opportunities for them and vastly improved service to the striker(s) by simple virtue of the creative playere being closer to them.

Add to that the obvious understanding between Bruno and Vicente, as well as Crofts chipping in the odd one or two himself and we WILL create and score more this season irrespective of any further additions to the strikeforce.

 

[Hyperion]

I did not enjoy Barry Lloyd's reign for a single minute in football terms. He probably done a lot in the background bringing in players with no cash of course but to put him in top 5? Not for me. Poyet has at least got Brighton playing the best football I have seen in my yrs as an Albion fan

 

[El Presidente]

I honestly don't think the players are as good as some are suggesting.

Noone: Ex Plymouth
KLL: Newcastle reserves
Buckley: Watford
CMS: Peterborough
Harley: Exeter (he never played for Swansea)
Hoskins: Bristol Rovers
Barnes: Plymouth reserves.

There's £5million gone on that bunch, and to suggest they have the skills to propel us to a top six places is a bit optimistic.

If the football is seen as boring, then surely it was just as boring under Jeff Wood, Martin Hinshelwood, Peter Taylor (Mk II), Magoo, Coppell, Adams (Mk II), Wilkins and Slade.

I think the difference is these days is that the Amex has given us an EXPECTATION of football in keeping with the quality of the stadium, but I honestly don't think we have the budget to meet those expectations.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

The Barry Lloyd who thought Richard Tiltman was a better player then Dean Saunders so sold Saunders to Oxford for £60K? Not in the same ball park as Gus IMHO.

No, the Barry Lloyd that HAD to sell Dean Saunders for a meagre £60k and then played Tilts, whom, Mullery had signed during pre-season at the same time that Lloyd joined the coaching staff.

If you have a look at the comments, I think a number of posters have just commented that statistically Lloyd is more successful (one game from the top division etc), in terms of playing style and potential Gus should win every time.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Mullery will always be my favourite manager due to the style and panache he infused the team with. But if Gus gets us to, and keeps us in the top flight, he will be his equal in the pantheon of Albion managers.

Same with me.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Where to start? Barry Lloyd was better? Come off it. He did a decent job overall in hindsight but bar a couple of good seasons, it was a dismal depressing era. Knock the ball into the channels and hope. The play-off final season was good but almost took the club to the wall financially. With the likes of Colin Pates, they gambled on breaking into the top flight in time for the Premiership and when it didn't come off, it was downhill all the way as the team had to be broken up. I doubt you'd find a single player who'd rate Lloyd highly as a coach or manager though he did make some good signings (as well as some of the worst ever). Our football's boring? Personally I love watching us knock the ball about and play our way out of trouble.

This is a good post in terms of the comparison of footballing styles, but the financial side of it is so wrong. There was no financial gamble on promotion, I think that season we were just very lucky.......

Pates was on loan, Mike Small was signed for a small fee and I think the most difficult in terms of funding was Johnny Byrne, Lloyd added the likes of Trusson and of course who can forget Crumplin, whom after a period of ridicule, was IMO a success.

I think all managers have signed some poor players even Ferguson....

 

[Mellotron]

Mmmm. Even though only DOncaster, the first side to be relagated, had fewer shots on goal than us last year? I wouldn't called it a very intelligent style of football, when it doesn't actually lead you you having many shots. After all, if you don't shot, you don't score, if you don't score you don't win games. And what makes it so annoying, is he has the attacking players at the club, he just doesn't use them, and prefers a style of play that other sides find comfortable enough to play against, and can stop us troubling their goal to much.

If Poyet got a "Dream Job" tomorrow (which he won't because no one would take the risk on him yet) , I would not be concerned one little bit. We'd get a top manager who would take this division by storm with the squad that Poyet's built. Can't fault him on that. He just need to use them better, and that's why I laugh when people are saying he's the best manager we've ever had.

I'll accept this one. He's the best manager we've had in the past three years. I'll grant you that!

Couldn't agree less, basically. I explained it all in a previous post. He was concentrating on making us hard to beat last season, which he did very, very well. Why has everyone suddenly forgotten the season where - once he got his League One squad in place - we RAPED teams 4-0, 5-0, 4-1, 4-2 and 4-3?

He PROVED beyond reasonable doubt that when he's happy with his side, we are a very, very attacking team.

He's getting his Championship side in place now.

 

[trueblue]

This is a good post in terms of the comparison of footballing styles, but the financial side of it is so wrong. There was no financial gamble on promotion, I think that season we were just very lucky.......

Pates was on loan, Mike Small was signed for a small fee and I think the most difficult in terms of funding was Johnny Byrne, Lloyd added the likes of Trusson and of course who can forget Crumplin, whom after a period of ridicule, was IMO a success.

I think all managers have signed some poor players even Ferguson....

Sorry, but as I understand it from conversations at the time with people very close to the boardroom, that's incorrect. Albion may not have forked out huge amounts on the team (although loans are not necessarily 'free') but they were in serious doo-doo financially and losing money hand over fist. They could have sold players during the run-in but resisted the temptation in the hope they could pinch promotion as a magic bullet for the financial issues. That was the gamble and, when it failed, the seeds had been sown for the lack of resources and years of failure that followed.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

If Gus gets us to the Premiershit this season or maybe next, depending on if he is around if we don't get promoted this season. Then he will go down as one of the best Managers we have ever had, but at this moment in time MA and Mullery are the leading contenders.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Sorry, but as I understand it from conversations at the time with people very close to the boardroom, that's incorrect. Albion may not have forked out huge amounts on the team (although loans are not necessarily 'free') but they were in serious doo-doo financially and losing money hand over fist. They could have sold players during the run-in but resisted the temptation in the hope they could pinch promotion as a magic bullet for the financial issues. That was the gamble and, when it failed, the seeds had been sown for the lack of resources and years of failure that followed.

Interesting as I had similar contacts and that is not my understanding at all. Remember we shelved out more money the following season for Farrington.......

 

[John Bumlick]

until something like happens, i have to vote no.

 

[trueblue]

Interesting as I had similar contacts and that is not my understanding at all. Remember we shelved out more money the following season for Farrington.......

Good point. Maybe that's correct then. Not that Farrington helped much

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Good point. Maybe that's correct then. Not that Farrington helped much

He was truly awful...... Let's hope we are talking about Gus matching Mullery at the end of the season.