MP's to get a 10% pay rise this year

[Herr Tubthumper]

i dont suppose its worth explaining to you the difference between government and parliament?

I'd like you to explain it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Maybe Russell Brand had a point with his no voting thing.

 

[yxee]

Whilst I accept that this is a decision independent of the Government, I am sure if the Prime Minister of the day were to recommend that in the circumstances it would be a good idea to defer any damaging increase at this time, this would be accepted. I also accept that parliamentarians should receive reasonable remuneration for their work.

But, and this is a big but, unlike the other occupations with which that of MP has been compared on this thread, there is no entry level requirement for an MP. Let's be honest, in about 80% of constituencies you could put up the proverbial monkey and they would be returned, so it is just like winning the lottery, not like earning a salary.

It's nothing like winning the lottery, they have to do a job...

 

[Frampler]

I don't particularly think they deserve it - being an MP is not equivalent to the professions, despite the fact that they keep trying to say that it is (professions kick you out for incompetence). And more to the point, Parliament should be setting an example if it intends to impose pay austerity on the rest of the public sector.

Not that such austerity is even necessary - the economy is growing, the national debt is entirely manageable according to every credible economist out there, so there's no need to madly slash state spending to produce a surplus. If teachers and nurses had received the pay rise they deserve, rather than being ground into dust, then MPs getting a 10% rise would not be such an issue. As it is, the whole thing reeks of the pigs in Animal Farm.

 

[alfredmizen]

And they wonder why people would protest in the streets. How long have the Tory's been back on government? 3,4 weeks? This is merely the shape of things to come. It's a total "V" sign to everyone in this country who struggles to make ends meet. Even more so to those nurses who were told to "stop being greedy". Disgusting.

Its not just the tories, apparently cameron tried to freeze it, they are ALL at it...

 

[Ernest]

The stock answer by the Groovy Gang to any strikes for pay is go and get another job if you don't like the pay and conditions or work harder , does this apply to MP's too ?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

The stock answer by the Groovy Gang to any strikes for pay is go and get another job if you don't like the pay and conditions or work harder , does this apply to MP's too ?

Of course it does.

Where have MPs said they don't like the Pay/Conditions?

Do you see MPs pushing for this pay rise, or going on strike?

Seems to me most of them (of all Parties) are going to give any increase to Charity.

 

[BigGully]

Weed out the shirkers and fraudsters be totally transparent and let them accept what they have been deemed to be worth, this annual sanctimonious rubbish is tiresome.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Of course it does.

Where have MPs said they don't like the Pay/Conditions?

Do you see MPs pushing for this pay rise, or going on strike?

Seems to me most of them (of all Parties) are going to give any increase to Charity.

Lol yeah sure they are!

 

[Gary1]

Anyone who feels that strongly could always get involved in politics and stand at the next election,get elected and then turn down their pay rise.

 

[Yoda]

You are out of order and you know it, you are better than that Nibble, or you actually have been taken in by the politics of envy.

Decision taken by an independent body long before the election so nowt to do with the new government. In fact I believe the poor darlings have not had a rise for around 3 years. You also need to ask, if you are a sensible person, if a £74k basic actually is too much to hold the power and responsibility that they do? And do you want those people made easy to corrupt that by those that would seek to do so?

Is that the same independent body that also advised them to give NHS staff a 5% rise and the government only gave 1% whilst agreeing to their own recommended 10%?

 

[fat old seagull]

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We're all in it together!!!! ....cept those bar stewards.

 

[Nibble]

Its not just the tories, apparently cameron tried to freeze it, they are ALL at it...

True, when it comes to money grubbing Labour were just as bad. Look at Blair. Though I think Brown was, for all his flaws of which their were many, was quite sensible when it came to his personal expenses. That's the impression I got. Might be wrong.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Is that the same independent body that also advised them to give NHS staff a 5% rise and the government only gave 1% whilst agreeing to their own recommended 10%?

It's ****ing unbelievable isn't it? Yet you still get muppets on here defending it.

 

[beorhthelm]

Is that the same independent body that also advised them to give NHS staff a 5% rise and the government only gave 1% whilst agreeing to their own recommended 10%?

so now people are just making stuff up. no body ever recommended 5%, they recommended 1% and got it, with some contention over whether its included in other increases or not.

 

[Nibble]

So we are supposed to trust a body that gives nurses 1% and MPs 10%?

Trust me, the government wouldn't allow them to recommend anything that didn't benefit themselves.

 

[beorhthelm]

So we are supposed to trust a body that gives nurses 1% and MPs 10%?

Trust me, the government wouldn't allow them to recommend anything that didn't benefit themselves.

i wouldnt trust anyone who appear to be deliberatly conflating and confusing completly seperate matters, pay award bodys, the legislature from the executive, to make trite partisan political points. the pay awards were put forward in 2013, taking account of a pay freeze since 2010, reductions to pensions and expenses, with the MPs insisting on the recommendations put in to affect, not the governments which have both advised against it. i'd love to see a union accept a 2% annual rise, 5 years in arrears (no backdating), lower benefits and more conditions imposed on performance review process.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

If I was a member of government that had just cut the welfare of many needy and desperate people I'd be totally and utterly ashamed to accept a 10% pay increase. I do not care who this rise comes from...to accept is nothing more than a kick in the teeth for those less fortunate. Piss takers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

i wouldnt trust anyone who appear to be deliberatly conflating and confusing completly seperate matters, pay award bodys, the legislature from the executive, to make trite partisan political points. the pay awards were put forward in 2013, taking account of a pay freeze since 2010, reductions to pensions and expenses, with the MPs insisting on the recommendations put in to affect, not the governments which have both advised against it. i'd love to see a union accept a 2% annual rise, 5 years in arrears (no backdating), lower benefits and more conditions imposed on performance review process.

I don't care. It's taking the piss wherever or whoever it comes from. 10 ****ing percent! Anyone else had a 10% pay rise recently?

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

If I was a member of government that had just cut the welfare of many needy and desperate people I'd be totally and utterly ashamed to accept a 10% pay increase. I do not care who this rise comes from...to accept is nothing more than a kick in the teeth for those less fortunate. Piss takers.

Many of the MPs have said they wont accept it (i.e they will donate the '10%') - DC, HH, NC and AC have all said they dont think the rise is a good idea. Seems you should stick to the facts with regards to the fictions 5% NHS pay rise.
IPSA was set up in the wake of the expenses scandal, should we just ignore this independent body and have MPs decide their own pay?