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[Misc] Midlife crisis











Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
54,464
Goldstone
I've never had a bucket list. I realised when I turned 50 that the things I desperately wanted but couldn't afford when I was 20 (a Porsche and a Kawasaki Z1 amongst others) I longer wanted when I could afford them. There's far-away places I'd go if I had a bit more money but there's no burning desire.
I'm 62 this year, been retired 6 years and am enjoying making our house and garden nice, growing veg and pottering about in my workshop.
I do find winters quite miserable when it's cold and raining though as I like being outside.

Can't you go on holiday in winter for some sun?
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
15,591
Cumbria
Couple of comments on here about looking back / looking forwards. I've been thinking that quite a bit. I'm 59 (and a quarter), and the vast majority of my family haven't lived much beyond 70 - so I can't see I'm going to be much different to them - say 70-75. It doesn't depress me - but people do seem shocked when I say something like 'well, I've probably got 10-15 years left' - they seem to be of the view that you shouldn't think about that sort of thing at all. But why not? It helps you plan to give yourself time to do things you want to do.

And as one poster says above - you think back 20 years and remember stuff that you think happened recently - and realise that it happened longer ago than you have left.

Work's the same. I'm planning to retire in 3 3/4 years time (63) - and many of the cases I deal with can take 5-10 years if not longer. The sudden realisation that it might not be worth me starting something because there's no chance of me seeing it through was quite an eye-opener for me. It definitely made me start hassling the bosses to get me an assistant so I can start downloading my 30 years' worth of history/background/knowledge and get them started on the next 10 years' worth of work rather than me.
 






DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
7,034
Wiltshire
Personally found my 50’s a breeze and it really didn’t bother me. However, I turn 60 tomorrow and I’m really struggling with it, starting to think about my own mortality.

It hit home a couple of weeks back. We are expecting our first grandchild in April and I have said I’m going to create a savings account I will pay into monthly that the child can have when he is 18. My daughter, not nastily, said “well I hope you are still around to give it to him”

That was a really scary thought 😢
The other day my eight year old said: “I’ll never be able to afford driving lessons” (not sure where this came from btw)
I said: “I can pay for them”
“you’ll be dead by then” she replied
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,383
Eastbourne
My brother (56) drank far more than healthy. He decided (partly following doctors advice) to stop drinking at home (not t total), and suddenly his health is much better. Who knew :shrug:

I was regularly drinking 50-60 units a week at home, more if I went out. I had it in my head that if I had a beer I had to have 5 or 6, if I opened a bottle of wine I had to finish it. I got into the habit of rounding off the evening with a brandy or two.
I recently stopped drinking at home and I feel better for it.

Thanks. I'll try and use this advice when I go on a stag do (first in decades) next month.

I predict you'll hate it
 




Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
22,150
Born In Shoreham
I don’t have a reverse aging pill but can muse if you like?

It wasn’t very long ago in history that no one would have known their age.

People were judged solely on what they could do.

So as much as possible dont read significance into age milestones. Instead do what you enjoy and be your own best friend by looking after your health if you can.

Obviously society may view age differently and failing mind and body comes to all. But that’s out of our control . I’ve seen many people think themselves old all by themselves .
The average age of death in the Middle Ages was around 31 if I remember my history lessons.
 




DJ NOBO

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2004
7,034
Wiltshire
Thanks. I'll try and use this advice when I go on a stag do (first in decades) next month.
good luck with that.
As a non drinker, if I never get asked on one of them again, that would be fine.
 




chickens

Have you considered masterly inactivity?
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Oct 12, 2022
2,993
I had lots of things that I was going to prioritise later in life, then at 49 I got blood clots in both lungs, and a year later started having TIA’s (transient ischaemic attacks, aka mini-strokes)

Root cause of both still unknown and frankly there’s been a significant lowering of my goals subsequent to this, they’ve affected memory, focus and mood. As you can see, editing has become increasingly difficult for me, it’s all a bit stream of consciousness.

My advice is to make hay while the sun is shining. We don’t know in advance when the stormy weather will set in, so if you and/or your significant other have things that you want to do in life, prioritise them now, set those plans in motion, don’t count on necessarily being able to do them in ten or twenty years.

My (bleeding obvious) advice would be to prioritise in order of physical effort required and risk involved. Do your mountain climbing now, and the cruise at the end of the list, not the other way round. Even if you’re generally physically fit, we’re all only a knee or hip joint away from reduced mobility.

As others have said, learn to take pleasure in quieter moments too. A walk around a local park, eating a meal with someone you love, seeing family. I was always dreadful at placing any priority on things involving my nearest and dearest, there would always be another chance. I’m no longer quite so dismissive. I’ve become more acutely aware that we’re all just passing through, and that we’ve an individual responsibility to try and leave a world that isn’t a toxic bin fire behind us. I have become increasingly disenchanted with the politics of selfishness.

I wish you and yours long life and good health. I hope life is good to you.
 




South Stand Bonfire

Who lit that match then?
NSC Patron
Jan 24, 2009
2,839
Shoreham-a-la-mer
Couple of comments on here about looking back / looking forwards. I've been thinking that quite a bit. I'm 59 (and a quarter), and the vast majority of my family haven't lived much beyond 70 - so I can't see I'm going to be much different to them - say 70-75. It doesn't depress me - but people do seem shocked when I say something like 'well, I've probably got 10-15 years left' - they seem to be of the view that you shouldn't think about that sort of thing at all. But why not? It helps you plan to give yourself time to do things you want to do.

And as one poster says above - you think back 20 years and remember stuff that you think happened recently - and realise that it happened longer ago than you have left.

Work's the same. I'm planning to retire in 3 3/4 years time (63) - and many of the cases I deal with can take 5-10 years if not longer. The sudden realisation that it might not be worth me starting something because there's no chance of me seeing it through was quite an eye-opener for me. It definitely made me start hassling the bosses to get me an assistant so I can start downloading my 30 years' worth of history/background/knowledge and get them started on the next 10 years' worth of work rather than me.
I’ll be retiring in 2 and 3/4 years. I plan to do a photography course part time somewhere. Your photos are great btw.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
58,335
Faversham
People mock the notion of diversity but our experiences and how we deal with them are....unique.

I'll preface my comments with the warning that they apply to, and are likely to make sense only to those on the autism spectrum (which I'm sure includes plenty of readers and regular posters on here. Ahem.).

I find the world....interesting, with some humans content to survive (or would be if they could) while others whinge for perfection.
I have kept them mostly at arms length, but some have angered me. Racists for example.
By the time I hit 60 I realized that most people and things are not for me to change.
So I engage only with things that interest me, people I like and problems that may be solvable.

That's all fine.

But at nearly 67, physical frailty is now taking a toll.
I'm not inclined to quit, and I am taking steps to address issues (spine, knee, and the nerves in between).
But a few days ago, had things continued as they had started with physical set backs in November and January, I could see myself unable to walk.
That would be a bugger.

With a family history of cancer and heart disease, I have already outlived the old man by 5 years, and that feels weirdly (to you maybe, but not to me) like some sort of win.
And although I became aware (for the first time) that death awaits when I hit late 40s (before that I was sure I was immortal), I can't let that affect me.
As long as I can stumble into the shower every day, and it doesn't hurt too much, and my brain still works...
I'll do what I do.

Which is very much focused on making sure things are set up to make life better for Mrs T and our two kids.
While having maximum amounts of fun.

I have a very selective memory and although I have had lots of tough times due mainly to the autism...
I really remember only the good things.
Some amazing times.
Even if the best thing about a day was the smell of fresh coffee, of the warmth of a shaft of sunlight, that was enough for me.
Being alive is amazing. Surely?

We are tiny dots in the landscape, with egos that drive us on.
But I'm not letting my ego destroy me.
I'll do what I can and will enjoy what I do
And hopefully pass without pain, but with momentary surprise.
In 50 years or so, with the Albion champions of Europe. Again.

Best wishes, especially to those who struggle with it all.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
54,464
Goldstone
Went to Fuerteventura in November and going there again in March. It's the weeks in between....

November in this country is ok, being soon after our summer and before if gets cold. March is nice because it's the start of spring, days are getting longer, it's starting to get warmer and the outlook is lovely. You'd be better off (IMO) going in Jan/Feb when it's cold and shit here.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
15,591
Cumbria
I’ll be retiring in 2 and 3/4 years. I plan to do a photography course part time somewhere. Your photos are great btw.
That's nice to hear - thank you. Photography is what I'd like to spend more of my time doing - living round here should give me plenty of opportunities, but spend too much time in front of the screen writing reports and so on. Can't wait to retire, even though I am one of the luck ones who loves my job. And I guess that's what I mean about planning in time to enjoy yourself - you can't cram it all into evenings and weekends.

Courses are great, but they are incredibly expensive! The best one I went on wasn't really about 'how to take photographs' (much of which you can pick up on-line to be honest), but 'why take that particular photo?'. It was fascinating - because it made you stop and think more about what you were doing. One task was to go out for an hour and take only two photos. Quite some challenge. About four of us meet up in a pub once a month and set a monthly theme - recently we said 'one photo a day for a week'. Basically - pick some sort of connecting topic / theme, plan the week's ideas (or places to go to that gave you a chance of getting what you want) then take only one photo each day. I did okay, until the second-to-last last evening, when we had that fabulous northern lights night - and I couldn't not 'break the rules' by taking hundreds....

 




Oh_aye

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Jul 8, 2022
2,392
Age has never bothered me at all, I actually enjoy getting older though for various reasons I don't particularly mark my birthday beyond what I have to do so Mini-Exile doesn't think it's weird when she celebrates hers. I reach 50 in a few weeks though and I'm really, really noticing that the midlife crisis - or as a mate calls it "midlife re-evaluation" is a very real thing for some of us despite me being cynical about it before and not believing it'd happen to me.

I've not gone to get a motorbike or run off with a younger woman or got any regrettable tattoos (yet) but there's definitely an awareness, not morbid though, that I've never had before that time is running down and I've lived most of my life now - a poet, Charles Wright, talks about "one day more is one day less" and I feel that. Not in a depressed way at all, just recognising it and a very strong feeling that I need to do something more with the time left than I have done with the past, say, 10 years (like maybe I should get a motorbike, run off with a younger woman and get some regrettable tattoos).

Also noticing things like I bought a lightbulb yesterday that will almost certainly last longer than I will. I still use the snooker cue I got for my 21st birthday and it's still fine, but I'm treating myself to a nicer one for my 50th and I know on that basis that'll probably outlast me too. Again, it's not morbid, I find that idea of continuity of things reassuring and comforting. I totally understand now why some people I've worked with in the past have reached 50 and older and suddenly started talking about needing to find purpose, or looking for charitable "legacy" work, or thrown everything up in the air and almost started again much more content having rebooted and reshaped their lives.

In the next 3 years Mini Exile will leave home, I'll move house very likely to the one I'll stay in until I can retire at 67 and probably beyond then too, maybe forever, shortly after that it'll be my silver wedding anniversary...there are so many life moments I remember my parents having and them seeming abstract to me that are now becoming my moments.

So wise people of NSC, now I've learned my cynicism of midlife crisis/re-evaluation was misguided, what if anything did you find in your 50s that was common among your peers so I can be ready for it? (And I'll be disappointed if at least some of the answers aren't taking the mickey.)
It's definitely a thing - a reassessment. I often think, like the Menopause and various other big life changes sadly society rivens it with clichés and negativity.

But crisis derives from the Greek verb Kino. Meaning to "choose, decide, or distinguish".

You have all this knowledge, experience and your internal system is asking you to discard juvenile coping styles and embrace it.

what is It, a person wants and needs to have a good life (remainder).

Mine was focused on being more healthy and having a better lifestyle, getting professional help to sort various un-dealt-with things out, lurking in the subconcious being conter productive. Trying to live in the moment more for kids and wife and not letting my job stress me out.

I've not completely ruled out buying a motorbike and getting a new Judy with big bazoingas, but frankly, it sounds like a right faff.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
54,464
Goldstone
I predict you'll hate it

I know for a fact that I won't. Up in the morning for go-karting (I love racing), then games (like pool, darts etc) with food and beer all day (I'll have to go slow on the shandies). I don't know the people but I'm pretty sure they're fairly sensible.
 


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