March

[Pretty pink fairy]

Much truth spoken here - without immigrants we would have no NHS. Simple. However, what I do have a problem with is the 'English-born lazy, dole-scrounging, heroin addictted....chavs' that you describe above.

Why are these people given any benefits? Why are they not working in Hotels/Subway for the minimum wage? Why do we have to import labour to do minimum wage jobs? I have no problem with the Poles etc who come here with their trades to work, pay tax and contribute to our economy etc (although I do think that being given Child benefit to send home to their families who aren't here is too much) however we have a massive housing shortage, hospitals that are full, roads that cannot cope, and yet we are still importing labour to do jobs that we already have people here are are perfectly able to do.

There are nearly 3 million people claiming IB, yet only 800,000 are actually not capable of working. Pay the genuine 800,000 more IMO and get the other 2.2 million back into work.

i agree !!!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Hang on - this is about England, not Britain. But I know what you mean.

Having said that, it's clear that Das Reich is easily led - I was hoping he might be able to THINK for himself, without prompting.

nice to hear someone else pitching in !

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I haven't accused you of being a neo-Nazi.

I've asked you to think for yourself.

no, you are asking me to think along your lines.ive said i can accept change within the country but only so far, you on the otherhand are calling me a racist

 

[The Large One]

nice to hear someone else pitching in !

The other thing - apart from you not being able to explain something which is ultimately very explicable - is that you have not asked any other of your fellow Englishmen's views on being proud to be English. Do you not care, do you not understand that someone else might feel the same, or are you scared that someone else's big words may cause you to fall over?

Oh, and by the way, I am tempting you. On the matter of national pride, who or what do you think I am?

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

no, you are asking me to think along your lines.ive said i can accept change within the country but only so far, you on the otherhand are calling me a racist

How do you define yourself then - if you are judging people on their race / ethnicity?

 

[The Large One]

no, you are asking me to think along your lines.ive said i can accept change within the country but only so far, you on the otherhand are calling me a racist

I haven't called you a racist. That's your insecurity - one which you have mentioned a few times on this thread - talking.

I asked you what it is that makes you feel proud to be English. If you removed your head from your own backside for five minutes, started thinking for yourself, and did something outrageous like... ooh, ask me the same question back, who knows what response you might get?

 

[Dave the OAP]

The other thing - apart from you not being able to explain something which is ultimately very explicable - is that you have not asked any other of your fellow Englishmen's views on being proud to be English. Do you not care, do you not understand that someone else might feel the same, or are you scared that someone else's big words may cause you to fall over?

Oh, and by the way, I am tempting you. On the matter of national pride, who or what do you think I am?

and ex goatee wearing shopkeeper?





Englishness is having the ability to queue at bus stops

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The other thing - apart from you not being able to explain something which is ultimately very explicable - is that you have not asked any other of your fellow Englishmen's views on being proud to be English. Do you not care, do you not understand that someone else might feel the same, or are you scared that someone else's big words may cause you to fall over?

Oh, and by the way, I am tempting you. On the matter of national pride, who or what do you think I am?

you are nothing to me ,just someone on the net
why should i hold you in any importance??

 

[the right footed denilson]

I f***ing hate the English

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

I think Das Reich has missed pretty much every point we have tried to make on here. S/he has refused to explain what it is about being English that makes him/her proud.

S/he is loving the attention and genuinely thinks this is a chatty debate rather than the revolted reaction of a load of fair-minded people.

I'm not going to keep contributing (despite having fuel the fire - apols) in order to give this racist the attention s/he craves.

Off to a thread about Brighton and Hove Albion - bye.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

How do you define yourself then - if you are judging people on their race / ethnicity?

i never said that??

 

[NMH]

hold on, look at the people working in these food outlets a lot of them cant speak our language, slave labour i say, send them back enough is enough
charity starts at home!

The slaves have to eat - aren't we allowed SLAVES anymore?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I think Das Reich has missed pretty much every point we have tried to make on here. S/he has refused to explain what it is about being English that makes him/her proud.

S/he is loving the attention and genuinely thinks this is a chatty debate rather than the revolted reaction of a load of fair-minded people.

I'm not going to keep contributing (despite having fuel the fire - apols) in order to give this racist the attention s/he craves.

Off to a thread about Brighton and Hove Albion - bye.

i am not a racist i am not the only person with these views

 

[The Large One]

you are nothing to me ,just someone on the net
why should i hold you in any importance??

I never asked you to hold me in any importance.

What I am asking is that we have a debate on 'England and Englishness'. Yet at every turn, you merely think I am accusing you of being a racist. 'England and Englishness' is, I find, a fascinating and ever-evolving social and historical topic. It's clear we occupy different areas on the political spectrum, hence I suspect, your reluctance to enter into a debate, in case it turns into something else.

However, that doesn't stop me wanting to hear your views on why you are proud to be English. You never know, I might even hold some of the same view as you on this subject. But now we'll never know, because you haven't worked it out for yourself yet.

Pity.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I haven't called you a racist. That's your insecurity - one which you have mentioned a few times on this thread - talking.

I asked you what it is that makes you feel proud to be English. If you removed your head from your own backside for five minutes, started thinking for yourself, and did something outrageous like... ooh, ask me the same question back, who knows what response you might get?

i feel comfortable in my views i dont feel any need to ask you your views on the subject but thanks for the offer and hope maybe to see you on the march.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

i never said that??

Well if you are against immigration, surely that's adversely judging anyone from a different ethnicity / race to you?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I never asked you to hold me in any importance.

What I am asking is that we have a debate on 'England and Englishness'. Yet at every turn, you merely think I am accusing you of being a racist. 'England and Englishness' is, I find, a fascinating and ever-evolving social and historical topic. It's clear we occupy different areas on the political spectrum, hence I suspect, your reluctance to enter into a debate, in case it turns into something else.

However, that doesn't stop me wanting to hear your views on why you are proud to be English. You never know, I might even hold some of the same view as you on this subject. But now we'll never know, because you haven't worked it out for yourself yet.

Pity.

you just sound a little bit frustrated and annoyed ,no need to

 

[WATFORD zero]

Think it's time for

It's an edamame salad where the edamame marries happily with tomatoes, celery, red onion, cannellini beans, and fresh basil. It may seem a bit summery, but once you try it, you won't really mind what season it's made for. It's flavorful, delicious, and makes a perfect filling side dish. Andy and I had it along with a beautiful filet of salmon, and my coworkers and I shared the leftovers for lunch the next day mixed with a bit of pasta. It's a versatile salad that is incredibly easy to whip up- and a very healthy lunch alternative.

I've passed it along already to a few people via email, but here it is for my blog readers!

Edamame Salad with Basil Vinaigrette

1 cup frozen shelled edamame

3 Tbsp red-wine vinegar

1 Tbsp olive oil

1 garlic clove, minced

¼ tsp salt

1 (15-15 ½) can cannellini beans, rinsed and drained

Mini-tomatoes quartered

1 celery stalk, diced

Red onion diced, about 1-2 Tbsp depending on preference

½ cup chopped FRESH bail leaves

Cook the edamame, drain, rinse under cold water and set aside.

Combine vinegar, oil, garlic, and salt in large bowl. Add the edamame, beans, tomato, celery, onion, and basil; mix well. Refrigerate for a couple of hours, or serve room temperature.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Well if you are against immigration, surely that's adversely judging anyone from a different ethnicity / race to you?

yet again i never said i was against a total ban on immigration just a bit more control on the subject you are putting words into my mouth you silly
old bint!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Think it's time for

It's an edamame salad where the edamame marries happily with tomatoes, celery, red onion, cannellini beans, and fresh basil. It may seem a bit summery, but once you try it, you won't really mind what season it's made for. It's flavorful, delicious, and makes a perfect filling side dish. Andy and I had it along with a beautiful filet of salmon, and my coworkers and I shared the leftovers for lunch the next day mixed with a bit of pasta. It's a versatile salad that is incredibly easy to whip up- and a very healthy lunch alternative.

I've passed it along already to a few people via email, but here it is for my blog readers!

Edamame Salad with Basil Vinaigrette

1 cup frozen shelled edamame

3 Tbsp red-wine vinegar

1 Tbsp olive oil

1 garlic clove, minced

¼ tsp salt

1 (15-15 ½) can cannellini beans, rinsed and drained

Mini-tomatoes quartered

1 celery stalk, diced

Red onion diced, about 1-2 Tbsp depending on preference

½ cup chopped FRESH bail leaves

Cook the edamame, drain, rinse under cold water and set aside.

Combine vinegar, oil, garlic, and salt in large bowl. Add the edamame, beans, tomato, celery, onion, and basil; mix well. Refrigerate for a couple of hours, or serve room temperature.

that sounds good to me!