March

[GAFFERKNOWSBEST]

the problem with you NSC lot is that you can not admit that we the BWS are trying to put the good back into England.....This march would be a Non Political event i,e not B,N,P or N.F and will be open to anyone to attend regardless of race,colour or creed. The only criteria is you must be proud to be ENGLISH. Families welcome. Come on chaps get behind this........

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Too f***ing late for that.

all the reason to attend the march then

 

[Seasider78]

I am joining the march to celebrate the true greatness of being English and to demonstate this I will be dressed as a giant Victoria sponge cake.

This country makes the best cakes and am sick and tired of our finest English cakes being sidelined for Belgium Buns and Pain au chocolates

 

[Dandyman]

That's typically kind of you, to help him out like that. I wonder where he's from...despite the name, I bet/pray not from Germany...

Also, erm, "Das Reich" *speaks slowly* in this country, we would normally say "battle-hardened", not "battle hardend". We also put a little dot - called a "full-stop" - at the end of sentences.

Perhaps the good people of NSC would be interested in some more background on "Das Reich" and it's fun loving activities.

On 5th June, 1944, General Dwight D. Eisenhower asked the BBC sent out coded messages to the resistance asking them to carry out acts of resistance during the D-day landings in order to help Allied forces establish a beachhead on the Normandy coast. The Maquis responded to this request and on 7th June, a unit attacked the German garrison at Tulle. The following day the arrival of reinforcements forced the unit to withdraw. The German losses were considerable, it was reported that 37 soldiers were killed and another 25 were wounded.

On the 9th June, the Schutzstaffel (SS) hanged 99 men from the balconies, trees, and bridges along the main street of Tulle. Another 149 were deported to Germany. Later that day another 67 were murdered in Argenton.

The following day German soldiers began encircling the village of Oradour-sur-Glane. A unit of 120 soldiers from the Waffen SS "Das Reich" division entered the village and instructed everyone to assemble in the central marketplace. Other soldiers in armored cars rounded up men and women working in nearby farms and fields.

At about three o'clock the soldiers separated the women and children from the men. They were taken to the church and locked in. Major Otto Dickman, announced that the SS knew that the village was hiding arms and munitions for the French Resistance. Dickman then told the mayor, Paul Desourteaux, to select hostages from among those assembled in the marketplace. The mayor refused, offering himself and his sons instead.

Dickman rejected Desourteaux's offer and ordered that all the men be divided into groups and moved them to various barns and garages in the village. The SS soldiers then opened fire on the men. The only ones to survive were five young men from a group of 62 taken to the Laudy barn.

At five o'clock two German soldiers entered the church and placed a large chest on the altar. They walked out, laying out a long fuse as they went, which they lit before shutting the door. A few seconds later the chest exploded. Some managed to survive the blast but were shot dead by the soldiers as they scrambled out of the bombed building. Only Marguerite Rouffanche managed to get out of the church and escape the bullets being fired by the SS soldiers. Although she was wounded she managed to hide until the Germans left the village.


The Germans then destroyed Oradour-sur-Glane. A total of 642 people were killed during the SS operation. This included 393 people living in the village, 167 people from neighbouring villages, 33 people from Limoges, and 25 others from different parts of the Haute-Vienne. Around 80 residents of Oradour survived. This included the five men from the Laudy barn, Marguerite Rouffanche from the church, 28 people who managed to hide during the roundup and 36 others who happened to be away for the day. Another 12 men were in Germany as part of Vichy's compulsory labour service.

Local hamlets also suffered high losses. Eight children of Le Mas du Puy attended the school at Oradour. Four mothers, concerned that their children had not come home from school, had gone to Oradour to look for them. They died with their children in the church.

In 1946 the French government decided to preserve the ruins of Oradour-sur-Glane. The forty acres of crumbling buildings became a martyred village. A testament of French suffering under the German occupation and an example of Nazi barbarism.

 

[Robbie G]

I shall not be attending.

 

[Starry]

the problem with you NSC lot is that you can not admit that we the BWS are trying to put the good back into England.....This march would be a Non Political event i,e not B,N,P or N.F and will be open to anyone to attend regardless of race,colour or creed. The only criteria is you must be proud to be ENGLISH. Families welcome. Come on chaps get behind this........

how did your little shin dig at speacker corner go?

 

[The Large One]

you should of said that in the first place would have stopped all the probing dont you think?

*Translates in English*.

Right, got it...

No, not in the slightest. Just because I am proud to be English does not follow the pride I feel has its roots in the pride you feel.

I merely asked you several times a perfectly simple question about being English. You dodged the question to the extent that you proved yourself incapable of answering. In other words, you have no idea why you're proud to be English.

So don't mind me if the England I feel proud of is the England you have failed to recognise, appreciate and love, and feel you have to march against in order to reverse your so-called 'loss of identity'.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Speaking as the descendant of Catholic immigrants from outside England, I'm afraid that this particular piece of nonsense prevents me from endorsing the sentiments being expressed by the organisers of the march.

Odd really, since I like England and feel rather attached to it.

you dont know your facts to well lord B i have had several conversations with polish youth and they have all mentioned how influential the catholic church is in poland and how suppressed the younger poles feel, i tell no lies

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Perhaps the good people of NSC would be interested in some more background on "Das Reich" and it's fun loving activities.

On 5th June, 1944, General Dwight D. Eisenhower asked the BBC sent out coded messages to the resistance asking them to carry out acts of resistance during the D-day landings in order to help Allied forces establish a beachhead on the Normandy coast. The Maquis responded to this request and on 7th June, a unit attacked the German garrison at Tulle. The following day the arrival of reinforcements forced the unit to withdraw. The German losses were considerable, it was reported that 37 soldiers were killed and another 25 were wounded.

On the 9th June, the Schutzstaffel (SS) hanged 99 men from the balconies, trees, and bridges along the main street of Tulle. Another 149 were deported to Germany. Later that day another 67 were murdered in Argenton.

The following day German soldiers began encircling the village of Oradour-sur-Glane. A unit of 120 soldiers from the Waffen SS "Das Reich" division entered the village and instructed everyone to assemble in the central marketplace. Other soldiers in armored cars rounded up men and women working in nearby farms and fields.

At about three o'clock the soldiers separated the women and children from the men. They were taken to the church and locked in. Major Otto Dickman, announced that the SS knew that the village was hiding arms and munitions for the French Resistance. Dickman then told the mayor, Paul Desourteaux, to select hostages from among those assembled in the marketplace. The mayor refused, offering himself and his sons instead.

Dickman rejected Desourteaux's offer and ordered that all the men be divided into groups and moved them to various barns and garages in the village. The SS soldiers then opened fire on the men. The only ones to survive were five young men from a group of 62 taken to the Laudy barn.

At five o'clock two German soldiers entered the church and placed a large chest on the altar. They walked out, laying out a long fuse as they went, which they lit before shutting the door. A few seconds later the chest exploded. Some managed to survive the blast but were shot dead by the soldiers as they scrambled out of the bombed building. Only Marguerite Rouffanche managed to get out of the church and escape the bullets being fired by the SS soldiers. Although she was wounded she managed to hide until the Germans left the village.


The Germans then destroyed Oradour-sur-Glane. A total of 642 people were killed during the SS operation. This included 393 people living in the village, 167 people from neighbouring villages, 33 people from Limoges, and 25 others from different parts of the Haute-Vienne. Around 80 residents of Oradour survived. This included the five men from the Laudy barn, Marguerite Rouffanche from the church, 28 people who managed to hide during the roundup and 36 others who happened to be away for the day. Another 12 men were in Germany as part of Vichy's compulsory labour service.

Local hamlets also suffered high losses. Eight children of Le Mas du Puy attended the school at Oradour. Four mothers, concerned that their children had not come home from school, had gone to Oradour to look for them. They died with their children in the church.

In 1946 the French government decided to preserve the ruins of Oradour-sur-Glane. The forty acres of crumbling buildings became a martyred village. A testament of French suffering under the German occupation and an example of Nazi barbarism.

10/10 well done now check out the dirlwanger battalion if you thought that was bad

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

*Translates in English*.

Right, got it...

No, not in the slightest. Just because I am proud to be English does not follow the pride I feel has its roots in the pride you feel.

I merely asked you several times a perfectly simple question about being English. You dodged the question to the extent that you proved yourself incapable of answering. In other words, you have no idea why you're proud to be English.

So don't mind me if the England I feel proud of is the England you have failed to recognise, appreciate and love, and feel you have to march against in order to reverse your so-called 'loss of identity'.

ok my birthday will that do??

 

[medicine man]

Sorry, Mr Reich, why are you so interested in Nazi history?

 

[Robbie G]

Sorry, Mr Reich, why are you so interested in Nazi history?

Perhaps he's German

 

[Dandyman]

10/10 well done now check out the dirlwanger battalion if you thought that was bad

Tell you what, why don't you explain why any self-respecting Englishman would adopt the name of a rabble of Nazi child killers.

 

[medicine man]

Perhaps he's German

Ah, gotya!
Cheers Mr G!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Tell you what, why don't you explain why any self-respecting Englishman would adopt the name of a rabble of Nazi child killers.

have you googled dirlwanger yet??

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Sorry, Mr Reich, why are you so interested in Nazi history?

plenty of historians have there plenty to research even if its not pleasent reading

 

[Frutos]

plenty of historians have there plenty to research even if its not pleasent reading

So if it's not pleasant, why name yourself after it?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Tell you what, why don't you explain why any self-respecting Englishman would adopt the name of a rabble of Nazi child killers.

not all off the division were involved and as i have said they were brought to book after the war

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

So if it's not pleasant, why name yourself after it?

its part of history , good or bad take it which way you like. any way it was never meant to shock but some people have got all high and mighty over it.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Why are people still pandering to the childish ego of this sick, attention-seeking, racist bigot.

Please stop talking to him - he's reveling in the attention and interpreting it as jolly banter.