Weststander
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Interesting about sports events, and that’s in low CV19 Germany.
Whilst NSC’ers still push for Amex crowds.
Do Germans complain en masse about back to no Bundesliga attendance?
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Interesting about sports events, and that’s in low CV19 Germany.
Whilst NSC’ers still push for Amex crowds.
Do Germans complain en masse about back to no Bundesliga attendance?
Richy_Seagull
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France back in full lockdown from Friday.
“Macron says France is "overwhelmed" by a second wave, which is "harder and more deadly than the first"
“Macron says France is "overwhelmed" by a second wave, which is "harder and more deadly than the first"
Yoda
English & European
No, but the last figures I saw (for week 42) had only 18% being what you would class a true community spread.
76% was made up with the Workplace, Care Homes & Schools/Universities. From the remaining 24%, 6% of these were from within Hospitals, leaving the rest for pubs, restaurants, shops, household intermingling etc.
The government are currently looking like this:
Yep. I think it was only Sunday I was drawing parallels between the NFL and F1 that had crowds and our sporting events that didn't. However, it was in the context of Norwich having crowds at the ground but in lounges. That seemed to me to be the worst of all worlds. If you can sit in a lounge you can sit in a socially distanced outdoor seat. I think we're heading rapidly for "neither of the above", but by stealth (everywhere T2 or T3).
I'd personally rather we whapped in a firebreak now, similar to what HT describes in Germany, so that we can attempt a vaguely normal Christmas. People will see their friends and family over Xmas whether it's legal or not, if you ask me*.
*again, in no way condoning it, this is a prediction.
Weststander
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My feeling is that, across all of Europe, CV19 will occupy the next 5 months. This time other countries that had fared well such as Czech Republic, Poland and allegedly Russia are seeing an unprecedented rise in cases and deaths, whilst for western Europe it’s deja vu.
As much as I love football, I’m very relaxed about not returning to the Amex yet. Possibly helped personally by boozing whilst standing in a football concourse was never my thing. A small price to pay, we’ll be back next season as normal I think.
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You've got memory problems, chap.
At the moment, we think that the epidemic is doubling roughly every seven days. It could be a little bit longer, maybe a little shorter, but let’s say roughly every seven days.
If, and that’s quite a big if, but if that continues unabated and this grows, doubling every seven days, then what you see of course, let’s say that there were 5,000 today, it would be 10,000 next week, 20,000 the week after, 40,000 the week after. And you can see that by mid-October if that continued, you would end up with something like 50,000 cases in the middle of October per day. 50,000 cases per day would be expected to lead a month later, so the middle of November say, to 200 plus deaths per day.
So this graph, which is not a prediction, is simply showing you how quickly this can move if the doubling time stays at seven days.
If, and that’s quite a big if, but if that continues unabated and this grows, doubling every seven days, then what you see of course, let’s say that there were 5,000 today, it would be 10,000 next week, 20,000 the week after, 40,000 the week after. And you can see that by mid-October if that continued, you would end up with something like 50,000 cases in the middle of October per day. 50,000 cases per day would be expected to lead a month later, so the middle of November say, to 200 plus deaths per day.
So this graph, which is not a prediction, is simply showing you how quickly this can move if the doubling time stays at seven days.
Presumably you're also going to lay into them for predicting 200 deaths day by mid-November when we've smashed through that already. Just what are those guys doing, downplaying the trouble that lay ahead like that?
darkwolf666
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50,000 cases if nothing was done to slow things down!
And this may refresh your memory...
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/chief-scientific-advisor-and-chief-medical-officer-briefing-on-coronavirus-covid-19-21-september-2020--2
[MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] just beat me to it, but the whole transcript is a sobering read - not quite Nostradamus, but pretty good - scientists, it’s amazing how lucky they get with their non-predictions, isn’t it!
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LamieRobertson
Not awoke
You will be labelled a conspiracy theorist for that sort of remark
Solid at the back
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I thought it was fairly obvious back in January and February that WHO don't have a clue and lost all credibility back then.
Also very obvious that the clowns running this countty learnt absolutely nothing from January - March. That explains why they're doing nothing, whilst other countries like German and France act promptly. This country is a joke and I am ashamed to be from the same country as these idiots.
Probably depends if they've been on a ventilator, got long covid or lost a dearly beloved elderly relative on top of it.
The solution appears relatively simple then..
I feel like Rishi will walk.
He is currently in credit with the public, a leadership election is coming soon, best to distance himself
darkwolf666
Well-known member
You really are unreal...!
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Do other illnesses count? Post viral fatigue from other viruses etc? Just wondered...only they might be dearly loved as well.
Weststander
Well-known member
In the very same briefing they said 200 daily deaths by mid November, we got there this week.
The 50,000 daily new cases was based on the entire country having no restrictions, which was the case on 21 September, bar Leicester. Since then restrictions have been applied to large parts of the country to inhibit the spread i.e. new cases.