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Guinness Boy

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WTF?

Is that what I'm claiming is it?

Yes. Yes it is.

Would love to know if this recent installation of 4G in Brighton has any link to my seizure pattern change, which began around a similar time to when it's reported that the 4G installation was finished. If it does then happy days.

Sorry, I meant the EE installation of 4G

No change to your health pattern until the recent instalment.
 






May 4, 2020
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Yes. Yes it is.





No change to your health pattern until the recent instalment.

No its not and you've just proved it

I'm questioning if there's a link with a seizure pattern change and the up in 4G radiiation within the city once EE had done their installation. You're now twisting it that I'm claiming EE causes my Gran mal seizure and Vodafone doesn't. There's only one reason why I can understand how you can be such a bellend to someone this relentlessly and for this long , you must be riddled with very extreme levels of hate for them? And when I say extreme I mean extreme. You're looking for negative reactions out of someone already going through tons negativity. That's pretty screwed up regardless of how little remorse you have.
That can't be b nice being like that, so I suppose we should all be nice, you never really know what challenges other people are facing.

But tge fact you needed to type 'yes' twice when starting your point has proven you're getting self gratification from this.

Time this stops. Surely you must be bored of it too?
 
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Guinness Boy

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dont forget O2. it must be more 4Gs in the air that does it.

And to think 3G was relatively harmless, unless you counted getting addicted to playing "snake" on your Nokia. 4G may have started out the same way but those sneaky lizards sure knew how to get everyone sick. Just up the amount as soon as people start buying iPhones. We already know 5G created Coronavirus*. I imagine 6G is what will turn us all into actual lizards, probably with dodgy lizard stomachs and ice cream for brains.




* I know 5G doesn't actually, just in case you're reading, David. Everyone knows drinking Corona beer is what gives you Coronavirus
 


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Swansman

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And to think 3G was relatively harmless, unless you counted getting addicted to playing "snake" on your Nokia. 4G may have started out the same way but those sneaky lizards sure knew how to get everyone sick. Just up the amount as soon as people start buying iPhones. We already know 5G created Coronavirus*. I imagine 6G is what will turn us all into actual lizards, probably with dodgy lizard stomachs and ice cream for brains.




* I know 5G doesn't actually, just in case you're reading, David. Everyone knows drinking Corona beer is what gives you Coronavirus

Some people are worried about 5G, because they believe in people saying it could be dangerous. Some people are not worried about 5G, because they believe in people saying its not dangerous.

It's completely fine if you belong in the latter category (though someone who dont have a sparkle of doubt that make part of them really scared and defensive generally dont feel the urge to be condescending to others), but is this really the way you communicate to a fellow human being if they are genuinely worried about something? What does it give you? What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

Scroll back a few hundred pages, and you'll find that some people were very wrong about the severity of this virus. Scroll forward a few hundred pages and you'll find that these people were generally understood, that people understood that it was difficult to fathom the event that was happening, that people were in denial and sometimes aggressive towards those who thought it could go really bad. It was considered alright to not being able to grasp or cope with this.

I'm not going into the 5G question in itself here, you know where I stand on the subject, but maybe you could try to treat a worried fellow human being with some sense of respect and kindness.
 


May 4, 2020
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How?



It's a figure of speech you moron.



Says the man who thinks 4G gives you seizures :wozza:

You literally are in narcissistic gaslight ing overload right now aren't you? First you said I was claiming EE is what causes my Gran mals and Vodafone doesn't, now you're claiming I'm saying its its 4G which causes my seizures. You're completly bullshit ting as it's in black and white that I'm speculating. No where have I claimed thus as dead cert. You just need to twist my words so you can start your weird need to try and get me emotionally invested in your sick, heartless posts because of the sad and unfortunate dysfunctional developnent which happened to your emotions growing u. But please learn to start coping with it better. Being a pick isn't the answer

Read my previous post by the way. I edited a fair bit of it so I assume you haven't actually read it, so I apogises there. My brain is still not at best conditions yet but I'm getting better. Just my liluck I'm now engaging with someone who clearly has issues with epileptics. I think Kate Hopkins shares similar views. She'd probably find what you're doing right now amusing.
 
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Green Cross Code Man

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Some people are worried about 5G, because they believe in people saying it could be dangerous. Some people are not worried about 5G, because they believe in people saying its not dangerous.

The reason people believe that 5G is not harmful is due to the calibre of person stating it. The reason (most) people don't believe the Youtubers and conspiracy theorists is due to the calibre of person stating it.

Scroll back a few hundred pages, and you'll find that some people were very wrong about the severity of this virus. Scroll forward a few hundred pages and you'll find that these people were generally understood, that people understood that it was difficult to fathom the event that was happening, that people were in denial and sometimes aggressive towards those who thought it could go really bad. It was considered alright to not being able to grasp or cope with this.

These are completely different scenarios that are incomparable.

The coronavirus crisis was a new disease with little news coming from China. The West in particular was caught out as nothing of the sort had happened for over a hundred years. 5G is a technology that has been studied donkey's years and has been proven time and time again to be safe.
 




Swansman

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The reason people believe that 5G is not harmful is due to the calibre of person stating it. The reason (most) people don't believe the Youtubers and conspiracy theorists is due to the calibre of person stating it.

These are completely different scenarios that are incomparable.

The coronavirus crisis was a new disease with little news coming from China. The West in particular was caught out as nothing of the sort had happened for over a hundred years. 5G is a technology that has been studied donkey's years and has been proven time and time again to be safe.

I disagree with all you are saying here, except for your very first sentence.

But that was not what my post was about - it was about whether its necessary to quite harsly ridicule a worried person you believe to be wrong. I dont understand the purpose.
 




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You literally are in narcissistic gaslight ing overload right now aren't you? First you said I was claiming EE is what causes my Gran mals and Vodafone doesn't, now you're claiming I'm saying its its 4G which causes my seizures. You're completly bullshit ting as it's in black and white that I'm speculating. No where have I claimed thus as dead cert. You just need to twist my words so you can start your weird need to try and get me emotionally invested in your sick, heartless posts because of the sad and unfortunate dysfunctional developnent which happened to your emotions growing u. But please learn to start coping with it better. Being a pick isn't the answer

Read my previous post by the way. I edited a fair bit of it so I assume you haven't actually read it, so I apogises there. My brain is still not at best conditions yet but I'm getting better. Just my liluck I'm now engaging with someone who clearly has issues with epileptics. I think Kate Hopkins shares similar views. She'd probably find what you're doing right now amusing.

OK, I'll ask you a much easier question.

Why are you on a Coronavirus thread asking if it's possible that the latest 4G installation set your bad health off?
 




May 4, 2020
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I disagree with all you are saying here, except for your very first sentence.

But that was not what my post was about - it was about whether its necessary to quite harsly ridicule a worried person you believe to be wrong. I dont understand the purpose.

Sorry for this insanely massive nutty post

The purpose is because of his problems we don't know of. He's been doing this for years to me. I've told him before how stress can trigger off my fits, but that just seems to have made him worse. He completly lacks remorse as you'll see with this. It's always him twisting my words then accusing me of either being someone I'm not like an antisemite or saying something I didnt like "EE 4G triggers my Gran mal seizures"

Im really sorry I've taken this thread so off track everyone. Sorry for being a dick. It's just been very hard for me coping with the stress of all these fits alone especially during a lockdown. Thought getting back on NSC might help me. I've probably been a bit weird but that's what happens with epilepsy, it really messes your head up. So the last thing you need is someone online during a lockdown trying to accuse you of wrong doing for what you've been asked to do by the doctors, and that's look for the trigger which currently speculating with radioactivity. There's loads of things which can and do trigger my seizures and that has always been the case, but what has sparked going from 6 to 30 seizures within a year is a mystery. So I need to look into as many possibilities as possible. But still, I wasn't expecting to have people ridicule me for admitting the embarrassing condition I go through, esp from a moderator.

It's really not easy speaking out about struggling with a brain condition on here for me as I see so much mental health jokes about people who question authority like myself, that telling people about my currents problems with a brain disease will surely just open up the gate for even more ridicule? GBs non stop crap obviously never gave me hope or confidence of coming on here and speaking out about the mental health challenge of Epilepsy, and today has proven that I was correct


It's horrible waking up with vomit all over you, piss all over the bed, your laptop smashed, swallon face, excruciating headache and torn muscles all over your body whilst not having a clue what year it is or where you live or what's going on. You then for however long until your next seizure spend the rest of the time trying to cope with making everything feel familiar again because of the psychological damage the seizures does. Everyone who gets Gran mals gets this same thing apparently. You just feel like no where is home. Everything feels so unfamiliar.

Epilepsy is unique as it's the only disease to be classified as both a physical and mental disease. The mental side is easily the hardest for me. It's a challenge for a good week at least. So thankyou Swansman for this compassion. Much respect and good on you. It very much helps for times like this. Not easy when alone coping with all this. So your words have strength. Wish there were more like you on here.
 


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Sorry for this insanely massive nutty post

The purpose is because of his problems we don't know of. He's been doing this for years to me. I've told him before how stress can trigger off my fits, but that just seems to have made him worse. He completly lacks remorse as you'll see with this. It's always him twisting my words then accusing me of either being someone I'm not like an antisemite or saying something I didnt like "EE 4G triggers my Gran mal seizures"

Im really sorry I've taken this thread so off track everyone. Sorry for being a dick. It's just been very hard for me coping with the stress of all these fits alone especially during a lockdown. Thought getting back on NSC might help me. I've probably been a bit weird but that's what happens with epilepsy, it really messes your head up. So the last thing you need is someone online during a lockdown trying to accuse you of wrong doing for what you've been asked to do by the doctors, and that's look for the trigger which currently speculating with radioactivity. There's loads of things which can and do trigger my seizures and that has always been the case, but what has sparked going from 6 to 30 seizures within a year is a mystery. So I need to look into as many possibilities as possible. But still, I wasn't expecting to have people ridicule me for admitting the embarrassing condition I go through, esp from a moderator.

It's really not easy speaking out about struggling with a brain condition on here for me as I see so much mental health jokes about people who question authority like myself, that telling people about my currents problems with a brain disease will surely just open up the gate for even more ridicule? GBs non stop crap obviously never gave me hope or confidence of coming on here and speaking out about the mental health challenge of Epilepsy, and today has proven that I was correct


It's horrible waking up with vomit all over you, piss all over the bed, your laptop smashed, swallon face, excruciating headache and torn muscles all over your body whilst not having a clue what year it is or where you live or what's going on. You then for however long until your next seizure spend the rest of the time trying to cope with making everything feel familiar again because of the psychological damage the seizures does. Everyone who gets Gran mals gets this same thing apparently. You just feel like no where is home. Everything feels so unfamiliar.

Epilepsy is unique as it's the only disease to be classified as both a physical and mental disease. The mental side is easily the hardest for me. It's a challenge for a good week at least. So thankyou Swansman for this compassion. Much respect and good on you. It very much helps for times like this. Not easy when alone coping with all this. So your words have strength. Wish there were more like you on here.

So why not just start an epilepsy support thread? You'd get actual help then. All you are doing here is derailing a thread about the most important event since WW2 ended. I accept your brain might not be with it but it's not so f***ed that you can't make that basic choice if you can manage to write the above,

And we definitely don't need any more manager fanboy, tinfoil hatter, sex dungeon under the Amex lube jobs emailing Paul Barber on behalf of fans who understand the history of the club better than the emailer ever will thanks. One pet freak is enough.
 
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May 4, 2020
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So why not just start an epilepsy support thread? You'd get actual help then. All you are doing here is derailing a thread about the most important event since WW2 ended. I accept your brain might not be with it but it's not so f***ed that you can't make that basic choice if you can manage to write the above,

And we definitely don't need any more manager fanboy, tinfoil hatter, sex dungeon under the Amex lube jobs emailing Paul Barber on behalf of fans who understand the history of the club better than he ever will thanks. One pet freak is enough.

Wow.

Yes I will definitely shut up after this for the sake of the thread but please stop asking me about my epilepsy and how insane I am for questioning a link with 4G through twisting my posts looking for a reaction. If you're so bothered about the derailing of this thread. Then stop being a knob too.

This is the most important thread since NSC began without doubt. I've already noticed a general nicer vibe on here amongst each other which is good to see too. So please, let's just keep things positive. Whatever it is which always has you and I clashing on here, you've won. I was wrong. Everything I say is total bollocks and lies whilst everything you say comes from the finest source of information known to man. Now let's please end this. I do apologise for my begalf on this derailing and I promise this is the last post on this crap and then let's get this thread back to where it should be. But come on GB, this is getting boring and predictable now. The lizard jokes don't last forever.
 




clapham_gull

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Only now watching Peston on catch up. Gordon Brown connecting testing and global cooperation on vaccines to the recovery of the economy and talking like a true statesman.

Utterly flawed character on a number of levels, but acts as a barometer to measure the likes of Steve Baker questioning whether the lock down has had any effect on infection rates and sounding like a poster on the Daily Mail comments page.

Questioning the reasoning of testing old people in care homes and how we should return to "liberty".

He is basically repeating the arguments of Trump.

Frightening these neo-liberals are in power. Frightening that people voted for these ********s to deliver Brexit, irrespective of the fact they are ********s.
 
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Swansman

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Happy news in Sweden: for the first time in over a month there are less than 500 people recieving intensive care because of Covid-19.
 




Swansman

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Any predictions of when you’ll be classed as herd immune?

A few days ago they talked a bit about that. Some quotes:

- We are close to a level when, according to our modelers, we begin to see an effect of herd immunity. The total herd immunity is probably well ahead. We do not know exactly when, it depends on how the development continues, Anders Tegnell said at a press conference .

Anders Tegnell, however, reminded that flock immunity is not a on and off button. It follows an S-curve.

- When more and more people become immune in the beginning, not much happens until you reach 10, 15, 20 percent, then you start to get quite a large effect of a herd immunity on how quickly the infection progresses. The famous R-figure decreases fairly quickly from 2.5, which you have when you have no immune, to lower levels, he said.

Which comes first, herd immunity or a vaccine?
- I would bet that we reach the level of immunity by people getting sick before a vaccine becomes available. In any case, a vaccine will be important to protect vulnerable groups. For the infection will not disappear. There will be groups in society where you do not have such high immunity and where you can imagine less outbreaks, says Anders Tegnell.
 




The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
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Latest death updates, England is hospital only.

332 England (352 last Friday)
49 Scotland (40 last Friday)
28 Wales (17 last Friday)
5 NI


Worth noting, that 238 of the England deaths occurred in the last 5 days, the rest are deaths backdated there is even a death added from 11th March.
 


CHAPPERS

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-fury-over-attempt-to-censor-covid-19-advice

However, SPI–B advisers who spoke to the Guardian disputed that they had been consulted. “We weren’t given advance notice and we still haven’t been given a satisfactory explanation,” the second SPI–B member said, adding they felt the redaction had been intended to stifle criticism.

“This government has failed to show any self-criticism whatsoever, when it is glaringly obvious to everybody that big mistakes have been made. If you want the trust of the population you hold up your hand and you say ‘we’ve made these mistakes, this is why they happened, we regret it, we’re learning from it’. Rather than just keep saying ‘we’ve done the most fantastic job’ and not being open to criticism in any way.”




A third member of SPI–B said they felt the redactions undermined the expert group’s independence from politicians. “What is recorded in the redacted document is us criticising those proposals. They were just not particularly well thought out. Here we were being independent, and you can’t see it [because of the redactions].
 


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