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The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
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There’s no reasoning with people that believe 5G masts have anything to do with this, it’s nonsensical and no matter what point you make you will never change their mind.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
36,014
... Just wish the people who discredit the conspiracies would show a bit more proof to back up their assurance. Why is their proof always something personnel about someone (in this case a scientist) and never anything to prove these theories wrong? They complain that the conspiracy theories lack any real backup or proof don't they?

simple really, most things that come to the public have been throughly investigated, researched and tested before you even hear of them. to release a new radio based technology requires years of research to understand how it works, and then thousands of man hours over many months to gain regulatory approval. they are quite strict about this too, as radio tech interferes with each other quite easily, so they dont want existing stuf to break. often its reusing military or industrial tech thats been opened up for general use. 5G is using ex-military and telecoms industry frequencies in use for decades without any reported problems, and we know from science that the frequencies get shielded easily (cloth will do it).

so the burden of proof lies with those who, often without any technical background, regurgitate unfounded claims of non-specific, unverified dangers.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,467
Mid Sussex
I really hope you're correct and he is wrong. I really do hope we're not rolling out something which potentially damages our health during a time like this. Just wish the people who discredit the conspiracies would show a bit more proof to back up their assurance. Why is their proof always something personnel about someone (in this case a scientist) and never anything to prove these theories wrong? They complain that the conspiracy theories lack any real backup or proof don't they?

Did you read this post a page or 2 back?

As I posted previously. This has been done to death in the letter pages of the IET (The Institution of Engineering and Technology) which is what a the Institute of Electrical Engineers is now known as. It was a regular occurrence for the subject of 3G etc to be discussed regard health risks etc. The consensus was that it was safe and that those who propose these theories don’t actually understand the science behind it. I was bored to death with repeated articles on this.

You can appreciate their position. 3 years of degree, then a PhD, chartered Engineer, many years experience only to be told by someone who doesn’t know one end of a wave guide from the other, that they are wrong and “Insert technology” is dangerous.

It is a very dry subject and I for one am glad that I ditched ‘fields and waves’ after my second year.


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WilburySeagull

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Sep 2, 2017
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Hove
simple really, most things that come to the public have been throughly investigated, researched and tested before you even hear of them. to release a new radio based technology requires years of research to understand how it works, and then thousands of man hours over many months to gain regulatory approval. often its reusing military or industrial tech thats been opened up for general use. 5G is using ex-military and telecoms industry frequencies in use for decades without any reported problems, and we know from science that the frequencies get shielded easily (cloth will do it).

so the burden of proof lies with those who, often without any technical background, regurgitate unfounded claims of non-specific, unverified dangers.

This exactly.

To be valid any theory has to have evidence to support it and that properly deals with objections. There is no evidence that 5g (or any g for that matter) can in anyway affect viruses. Just because someone believes it does is not evidence and does not mean we have to spend time disproving it. Some people belive the earth rests on top of a giant turtle - belief is not evidence.
 








dazzer6666

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As I posted previously. This has been done to death in the letter pages of the IET (The Institution of Engineering and Technology) which is what a the Institute of Electrical Engineers is now known as. It was a regular occurrence for the subject of 3G etc to be discussed regard health risks etc. The consensus was that it was safe and that those who propose these theories don’t actually understand the science behind it. I was bored to death with repeated articles on this.

You can appreciate their position. 3 years of degree, then a PhD, chartered Engineer, many years experience only to be told by someone who doesn’t know one end of a wave guide from the other, that they are wrong and “Insert technology” is dangerous.

It is a very dry subject and I for one am glad that I ditched ‘fields and waves’ after my second year.


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An engineering degree and a lifetime studying the effects of radio waves is no match for a bespoke tin foil hat though, is it..................
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,740
Eastbourne
Wonder what caused the plague and Spanish flu? Tin can telephones? Carrier pigeons?

Although I am a religious person, I think that a lot of people transpose the traditional blame for 'events beyond our control' from God/gods or other deity type figures, to modern technology. People need a reason or a thing to blame. If they are particularly gullible or if they happen to be a little paranoiac, they won't blame the traditional gods as they are not in vogue any longer, but blame tech as it is an easy target and the proponents can spout a lot of technical sounding justifications that give credence to the uninitiated and satisfy them that their distrust is not ill-founded.
 






May 4, 2020
72
There are thousands of legitimate studies into mobile radiation. Link one that shows it can cause cancer, coronavirus or bring about an attack from the lizard people.

I don't believe it causes Covid19. I've already stated that in my very first post on this thread. What's with needing to bring in the Lizard shit? A bit bitchy to say the least. What happened? Did some Tin foil hatter shag your wife whilst you were out preaching how all conspiracies including the Gleizwich incident are completely made up?
 


The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
18,399
^^ Agree with that, honestly you could gain scientific proof as to the exact origin of this virus and how it spread and you’ll still have people that choose to believe everything is a lie, the queen is a lizard person and the scientists were paid by the Illuminati to lie. Basically, generally people who believe conspiracy theories will never have their minds change so not worth discussion.

Fact is the world we live in now is absolutely there for the taking for a virus to spread easily, massively densely populated cities, no travel checks and millions of people travelling all over the world daily in steel tubes in the Sky, let alone the billions of people commuting everyday - lets be honest it’s surprising a massive pandemic hasn’t happened sooner given how ripe the world is for one and just how many viruses there is.
 




RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
2,630
Any chance that this could be moved to a specific 5G thread so this one can be used for discussions about Coronavirus?

Ta.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,467
Mid Sussex
simple really, most things that come to the public have been throughly investigated, researched and tested before you even hear of them. to release a new radio based technology requires years of research to understand how it works, and then thousands of man hours over many months to gain regulatory approval. they are quite strict about this too, as radio tech interferes with each other quite easily, so they dont want existing stuf to break. often its reusing military or industrial tech thats been opened up for general use. 5G is using ex-military and telecoms industry frequencies in use for decades without any reported problems, and we know from science that the frequencies get shielded easily (cloth will do it).

so the burden of proof lies with those who, often without any technical background, regurgitate unfounded claims of non-specific, unverified dangers.

A bit of a mistake mentioning military use. Tinfoil brigade will lose it completely.


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Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Just wish the people who discredit the conspiracies would show a bit more proof to back up their assurance. Why is their proof always something personnel about someone (in this case a scientist) and never anything to prove these theories wrong? They complain that the conspiracy theories lack any real backup or proof don't they?

It's 100% up to you and Icke to prove it. It's your theory, you prove it.
 






Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Meanwhile the below link was highlighted this morning on the Good News thread.

I'm not going to discuss it there because it risks a binfest but, essentially, talking of scientists

"Researchers from Stanford University in the US have been trying to count the risk another way - equating it to that which we face from dying while driving.
In the UK, they calculate that those under the age of 65 have faced the same risk over the past few months from coronavirus as they would have faced from driving 185 miles a day - the equivalent of commuting from Swindon to London."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692

I seem to remember being absolutely pilloried for making exactly that point early on.
 


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