Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Swansman]

Starting next week, Sweden will start doing some initial antibody tests:

The last trials are now being done at a hospital called Sunderby sjukhus and if nothing dramatic happens, they will be starting to do 270 tests a day sometime early next week.

"It seems to be working well. The sensitivity could be a bit better, but at least it wont show any false positive tests, which is the most important thing", says disease control doctor Anders Nyberg.

 

[Poojah]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...me-including-cooling-off-after-a-row-11974322

New guidance from the police regards acceptable reasons to leave the house. Interesting that it now seems feasible to drive the family to the countryside, go for a walk and have a picnic. That feels like a very small and slightly stealthy relaxation of lockdown.

It will be also be interesting however to see if we now see large crowds venturing to natural beauty spots, ala Snowdon a few weeks’ back. So long as people use their heads, don’t flock to ‘obvious’ destinations and maintain social distancing this feels like a positive step in the right direction for society.

 

[Weststander]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...me-including-cooling-off-after-a-row-11974322

New guidance from the police regards acceptable reasons to leave the house. Interesting that it now seems feasible to drive the family to the countryside, go for a walk and have a picnic. That feels like a very small and slightly stealthy relaxation of lockdown.

It will be also be interesting however to see if we now see large crowds venturing to natural beauty spots, ala Snowdon a few weeks’ back. So long as people use their heads, don’t flock to ‘obvious’ destinations and maintain social distancing this feels like a positive step in the right direction for society.

Seems like a clampdown on over zealous policing.

The drive to the countryside must be far shorter in time than the exercise.

 

[Bodian]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...me-including-cooling-off-after-a-row-11974322

New guidance from the police regards acceptable reasons to leave the house. Interesting that it now seems feasible to drive the family to the countryside, go for a walk and have a picnic. That feels like a very small and slightly stealthy relaxation of lockdown.

It will be also be interesting however to see if we now see large crowds venturing to natural beauty spots, ala Snowdon a few weeks’ back. So long as people use their heads, don’t flock to ‘obvious’ destinations and maintain social distancing this feels like a positive step in the right direction for society.

Seems like a clampdown on over zealous policing.

The drive to the countryside must be far shorter in time than the exercise.

An hour's drive each way to go for a five hour walk in the Lake District.... I can see some 'creative' interpretations coming along.

This week, one of my colleagues had to go to Stickle Tarn just above Old Dungeon Ghyll to check the dam wall. He said that for the first time in his life, he drove there hardly seeing a car, went up and back and didn't see a single walker - either on the path or in the surrounding fells. A glorious week like we have just had would normally see a steady stream of walkers on that path.

Note - not a 'picnic'. Stopping for a sandwich in the middle of a long walk - yes. Not for a traditional picnic please.

 

[Weststander]

An hour's drive each way to go for a five hour walk in the Lake District.... I can see some 'creative' interpretations coming along.

This week, one of my colleagues had to go to Stickle Tarn just above Old Dungeon Ghyll to check the dam wall. He said that for the first time in his life, he drove there hardly seeing a car, went up and back and didn't see a single walker - either on the path or in the surrounding fells. A glorious week like we have just had would normally see a steady stream of walkers on that path.

Note - not a 'picnic'. Stopping for a sandwich in the middle of a long walk - yes. Not for a traditional picnic please.

If a mass of cars/folk head back into Snowdonia, the Peak and Lake Districts, I can see the police taking action. They won’t be able to prove journey against hike times, but they will limit people parking up if it gets silly.

 

[Bodian]

If a mass of cars/folk head back into Snowdonia, the Peak and Lake Districts, I can see the police taking action. They won’t be able to prove journey against hike times, but they will limit people parking up if it gets silly.

Yes - I'm sure they will.

Just out of interest - a camper van was stopped on the motorway in Lancashire before the weekend. It was a family from Middlesex who were intending to camp in the Lakes - they said they thought it was okay as they had 'masks and gloves'. The Police sent them home "with some paperwork" (presumably a fine!).

 

[Weststander]

Yes - I'm sure they will.

Just out of interest - a camper van was stopped on the motorway in Lancashire before the weekend. It was a family from Middlesex who were intending to camp in the Lakes - they said they thought it was okay as they had 'masks and gloves'. The Police sent them home "with some paperwork" (presumably a fine!).

What was funny about that, was that that family lied that it was a day trip.

The lie didn’t work.

 

[Notters]

If a mass of cars/folk head back into Snowdonia, the Peak and Lake Districts, I can see the police taking action. They won’t be able to prove journey against hike times, but they will limit people parking up if it gets silly.

I imagine most of the car parks are closed off anyway, they are round here.

 

[Weststander]

I imagine most of the car parks are closed off anyway, they are round here.

On that mad weekend in Snowdonia (record visitors in the history of the park), everyone got round that by parking on the roads.

 

[clapham_gull]

Here in the epicentre, the police are taking this very seriously. I live right n the middle of three large commons, Clapham., Tooting and Wandsworth.

There is a very loud, low and "stationary" helicopter overhead most days.

They are doing a good important job under the circumstances but unfortunately knowing the police as we do, I hope they learn to give away their "new powers" and revert to normal when the threat has gone.

That will mostly down to idiots not dong the right thing, because at the moment it feels at time like living under a police state.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

How come people are going back to work a week after they've had the virus and Boris has gone on holiday?

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[Triggaaar]

Wuhan has revised their deaths up by 1,290.

So they're now saying 3,869 have died from CV in Wuhan

And 763 have died in the rest of China

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...up-death-toll-by-1-290-a-50-increase-11974466

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Next time you think Boris is just like one of us, this is where he's living compared to Corbyn's house.

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[dazzer6666]

Next time you think Boris is just like one of us, this is where he's living compared to Corbyn's house.

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You do know that’s not his house though, right ?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

You do know that’s not his house though, right ?

Sorry HOLIDAY home

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[Green Cross Code Man]

You do know that’s not his house though, right ?

Hahaha!

Especially funny as that would have been Corbyn's house. I wonder if the same ire would have been directed towards him? I think not. Amazing double standards.

 

[pasty]

Thanks to this lockdown, something I've just realised today is the complete and utter futility of my 5 hours a day commuting (3 days a week) and £500 a month travel expenses. I've now been working from home for a full month, and there hasn't been a single thing I could not do due to not being in the office.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Next time you think Boris is just like one of us, this is where he's living compared to Corbyn's house.

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Is your missus in one of the nurses unions by any chance?

I've got a friend who's a midwife and this is the sort of nonsense she shares, all union propaganda. She's cancelled her TV licence and won't watch BBC because their reporting stopped Corbyn winning the election!

 

[Motogull]

Thanks to this lockdown, something I've just realised today is the complete and utter futility of my 5 hours a day commuting (3 days a week) and £500 a month travel expenses. I've now been working from home for a full month, and there hasn't been a single thing I could not do due to not being in the office.

Yeah. I can see a lot of employers already thinking about encouraging more home working from now on. And a lot of employees thinking about asking to do it.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I thought it might be useful to look at how ordinary flu waxes and wanes diring the year. In the northern hemisphere it disappears naturally by late spring. This is not due to 'herd immunity'. It simply doesn't seem to like the change in season. What vaccination does is greatly lower the numbers of people who get ill. It doesn't prevent flu happening because not everyone gets the vaccine, nor does it affect the timecourse (appearance of new cases over time) substantially.

How would Japan's recent uprise in case numbers relate to the virus being seasonal? Do you think Japan is an outlier?