Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Machiavelli]

Actually the WHO have been pretty awful. They announced that the virus wasn’t catching and said that people from the affected area should still be allowed to fly into every country in the world.

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And the head of the WHO played silly identity politics games and sucked up to the Chinese communist regime.

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Well, I disagree.
Regarding your first point, that was early on, and that initial advice was based on the evidence that they currently had. It's all well and good being wise after the event.
Regarding your second point, that quotation from Tedros isn't remotely playing "silly identity politics", but the exact opposite, whereas it doesn't take too much imagination to identify which high profile figures have been playing "silly identity politics". I will grant you that the way in which WHO have dealt with the China-Taiwan issue has been poor, but I'm not expecting perfection from them.

 

[RossyG]

It was pretty obvious it was catching by then. People were being sealed in their flats by men in hazmat suits.

And when there’s a pandemic raging, I don’t expect the head of the WHO to be worrying about “hate” speech over the world’s health.

And then there as his conference call with Lady Gaga...

 

[Hugo Rune]

Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Dicsussion Thread

A government scientific advisor is now preparing us for the worst:

“Wellcome Trust director Sir Jeremy Farrar told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show the UK was likely to be "one of the worst, if not the worst affected country in Europe".
Currently Italy has the highest number of deaths of any European country - with more than 19,000 deaths - followed by Spain, France and the UK, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.”

Q: How can an Island nation who has complete control of their borders and could have quarantined the super-spreaders before they infected the nation end up the worst effected country in Europe?

A: Mr Johnson. Bluster, dithering, blind to best practice in other countries, ability to only tell people what they want to hear and an opponent of lockdown until the last possible moment in line with his popularist small government & libertarian mindset.

Let’s hope the upcoming public inquiry does not go the same way as the Russian report!

 

[Bakero]

When there’s a pandemic raging, I don’t expect the head of the WHO to be worrying about “hate” speech.

We need international cooperation. The WHO's calls for solidarity reflect that. On a national level, their advice has been to test, track and trace. What's your issue with that?

 

[RossyG]

We need international cooperation. The WHO's calls for solidarity reflect that. On a national level, their advice has been to test, track and trace. What's your issue with that?

They let the disease spread globally and then have just stated the obvious. If they hadn’t spoken of testing, tracking, and tracing, do you think no one else would’ve thought of it?

 

[Machiavelli]

They let the disease spread globally and then have just stated the obvious. If they hadn’t spoken of testing, tracking, and tracing, do you think no one else would’ve thought of it?

You seem to think you know more than this expert body, whereas I don't think you do. As I stated in the initial post that you responded to, there will be an enquiry that follows on from this, and the responses of the various key actors will be analysed. And as you are so knowledgeable on this subject, perhaps you can point us all towards your posts in which you were indicating that "test, track and trace" is obvious prior to this becoming WHO's guidance.

 

[oldboyroy]

Boris Johnson discharged from hospital is some good news. A lucky 1 maybe let's hope many thousands are lucky too!

 

[Bakero]

They let the disease spread globally and then have just stated the obvious. If they hadn’t spoken of testing, tracking, and tracing, do you think no one else would’ve thought of it?

If it's obvious, why haven't many countries followed the advice?

 

[RossyG]

If it's obvious, why haven't many countries followed the advice?

They may have done a bloody awful job of it, but are there any countries that haven’t?

 

[Bakero]

They may have done a bloody awful job of it, but are there any countries that haven’t?

The UK for one.

 

[RossyG]

The UK for one.

We did but lost control of it. File it under bloody awful job if you like.

 

[Bakero]

We did but lost control of it.

I must have missed the bit where we had control.

File it under bloody awful job if you like.

We can agree on that.

 

[beorhthelm]

If it's obvious, why haven't many countries followed the advice?

lack of lab capacity and suitable PCR tests.

 

[The Wizard]

657 England deaths, 24 Scotland and 18 wales. Can’t read an awful lot into this even though it looks like a drop, Sunday and Mondays figures are flawed as proven the last 2 weeks due to recording deaths over the weekend.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

657 England deaths, 24 Scotland and 18 wales. Can’t read an awful lot into this even though it looks like a drop, Sunday and Mondays figures are flawed as proven the last 2 weeks due to recording deaths over the weekend.

The 4 day Easter weekend will lead to under reporting for the next day or so.

I'm expecting catch up surges on Thursday and Friday.

 

[The Wizard]

Say what you like about Johnson but this is a fantastic speech IMO



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[Wrong-Direction]

Say what you like about Johnson but this is a fantastic speech IMO



https://twitter.com/borisjohnson/status/1249336590482243585?s=21

Absolutely, I really hope he means it. Maybe this virus will change many people's values for the better

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[oldboyroy]

Say what you like about Johnson but this is a fantastic speech IMO



https://twitter.com/borisjohnson/status/1249336590482243585?s=21

Couldn't agree more that is why he is prime minister and what a speech considering he just been released from hospital.

 

[Mellotron]

Say what you like about Johnson but this is a fantastic speech IMO



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I really, really hope he means every word of it.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Say what you like about Johnson but this is a fantastic speech IMO



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It will also forever be referred to now when the topic of NHS funding or doctors/nurses pay comes up... he’s gonna have to finally back his words up.