Luton Protests

[algie]

I agree bushy - a very well argued case. Doesn't mean there shouldn't be a bit of discussion/disagreement around though, does it?

But your discussion/views are so blantently one sided it's simply laughable.You tried so desperately to defend your feeble point of view with one of the most funniest things i've seen written on nsc that i actually felt sorry for you.

Christian population's refusal to integrate

 

[Common as Mook]

But your discussion/views are so blantently one sided it's simply laughable.You tried so desperately to defend your feeble point of view with one of the most funnest things i've seen written on nsc that i actually felt sorry for you.

Christian population's refusal to integrate

I know hypocrisy is your forte, but that takes the biscuit!

And anyway, I clarified what I meant and changed that from "integrate" to "accept" which you know full well.

 

[Franks Wild Years]

"But your discussion/views are so blantently one sided it's simply laughable."

NSC's resident brown shirt produces the most ironic sentence ever written by anyone ever.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

"But your discussion/views are so blantently one sided it's simply laughable."

NSC's resident brown shirt produces the most ironic sentence ever written by anyone ever.

Well it made me laugh

 

[User removed 4]

Ok, I'll try. I too agree with MK seagull. I think that Luton is a nice neat example of the almost total failure of Britain's multi-cultural 'all cultures are of equal value and immigrants are always the victims' policies of the last 30 years.

That doesn't excuse the actions of the knuckle-draggers in the video though.

i agree , hating for the colour of skin is stupid, lets put that one to bed once and for all, but i for one dont want to be part of a multi cultural society, multi racial, fine , but change is happening on too great a scale , in too many areas.

 

[Dandyman]

what a well argued case, no doubt most of our resident right-ons will find a flimsy argument against it , but i'm waiting with interest to see how they will try to work the phrase "knuckle dragger" into any argument against you.

Well...MK is about as close to Luton as London, there are few if any facts to make up a large number of assertions, the links provided lower down relate to Sheffield in one story and highlight the importance of "red lining" in the other... shall I go on?

 

[Dandyman]

i agree , hating for the colour of skin is stupid, lets put that one to bed once and for all, but i for one dont want to be part of a multi cultural society, multi racial, fine , but change is happening on too great a scale , in too many areas.

Bushy, serious question - are you suggesting we should have a mono-cultural society ? We have had freedom of worship (in part) from 1688, we have always have strong regional identities, there are significant differences in cultural identities related to class, etc, etc ? What single culture is it that you wish to impose on 58 million people and what if a lot of us don't happen to want or accept your version of what our culture should be?

 

[Hotchilidog]

Bushy, serious question - are you suggesting we should have a mono-cultural society ? We have had freedom of worship (in part) from 1688, we have always have strong regional identities, there are significant differences in cultural identities related to class, etc, etc ? What single culture is it that you wish to impose on 58 million people and what if a lot of us don't happen to want or accept your version of what our culture should be?

Good question.

 

[User removed 4]

Well...MK is about as close to Luton as London, there are few if any facts to make up a large number of assertions, the links provided lower down relate to Sheffield in one story and highlight the importance of "red lining" in the other... shall I go on?

yes, please do ?

 

[User removed 4]

Bushy, serious question - are you suggesting we should have a mono-cultural society ? We have had freedom of worship (in part) from 1688, we have always have strong regional identities, there are significant differences in cultural identities related to class, etc, etc ? What single culture is it that you wish to impose on 58 million people and what if a lot of us don't happen to want or accept your version of what our culture should be?

the indigenous british culture that evolved over time, not the totally alien culture that is being imposed in far too many places to mention.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

Well...MK is about as close to Luton as London, there are few if any facts to make up a large number of assertions, the links provided lower down relate to Sheffield in one story and highlight the importance of "red lining" in the other... shall I go on?

Did you bother to view the video clip from You Tube, Ethnic Cleansing in Bury Park? It's not from some obscure right wing blog its from BBC Look East.

 

[Dandyman]

the indigenous british culture that evolved over time, not the totally alien culture that is being imposed in far too many places to mention.

What precisely is this indigenous culture ? The maternal side of my family have lived in the British isles for over 1000 years are Celtic/Norse/Norman rather than Anglo-Saxon, were Presbytarian rather than Anglican, have little time for the Royal family or the aristocracy, travelled/worked/lived in various parts of the Empire/Commonwealth, clearly there are shared elements there with people of similar backgrounds and experience but one single culture?

 

[Dandyman]

Did you bother to view the video clip from You Tube, Ethnic Cleansing in Bury Park? It's not from some obscure right wing blog its from BBC Look East.

The issue. MK, is the emotive use of "ethnic cleansing". I'm not stupid enough to operate on a "muslim good/everyone else bad" basis but it does seem to be that much of the current hysteria is designed to cover up a disgusting and illegal war and bares too much of a similarity to the same wild claims made against West indians/Jews/Irish in the past for me to take it at face value.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

You really do not have a clue about much do you. The wearing of burkas and the adoption of other forms of visual markers of your islamic identity is an increasingly common political act in this country.

You, being a bit of a clueless smart alec, might think that all muslim women in this country spend all day indoors, illiterate and stirring a pot of curry and just waiting to be liberated, but some are highly politicised and adopt this themselves without any bullying from imams or their husbands.

You will not see as many Bangladeshi women in Dhaka dressed like you do in East London. But then they dont feel the need to do a big f*** you to the country they live in.

Sorry i missed this bit of abuse. So you couldn't actually answer the question then. No amount of insults can disguise the fact.

 

[coventrygull]

Bushy, serious question - are you suggesting we should have a mono-cultural society ? We have had freedom of worship (in part) from 1688, we have always have strong regional identities, there are significant differences in cultural identities related to class, etc, etc ? What single culture is it that you wish to impose on 58 million people and what if a lot of us don't happen to want or accept your version of what our culture should be?

But a multi cultural society was imposed on 58 million people without them being asked

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

Instead of trawling all thru theses threads I would just like to say my Sons lot were out in Iraq with the Poachers last year and my boy is based down in Thorney Island, near to Emsworth with 47 Royal Artillery ,and they are due to march thru Emsworth in the next month or so, and of course i will be down there, and if all of you feel so stongly about this I will let you know when the Parade is and we can all get down there and show them how proud we are of them all.

 

[Dandyman]

But a multi cultural society was imposed on 58 million people without them being asked

We've been multi-cultural since the Romans got off the ship. If you mean multi-racial, say so.

We've have had as much a say about post-war immigration as any other issue. To date the NF/BM/BNP have failed to win any significant electoral mandate for their "final solutions".

 

[Brovion]

Bushy, serious question - are you suggesting we should have a mono-cultural society ? We have had freedom of worship (in part) from 1688, we have always have strong regional identities, there are significant differences in cultural identities related to class, etc, etc ? What single culture is it that you wish to impose on 58 million people and what if a lot of us don't happen to want or accept your version of what our culture should be?

I think that depends on what you mean by 'monocultural society'. All waves of immigrants have brought with them elements of their culture which have become 'British' - curry and reggae being two of my favourites. And despite our many and varied regional differences we all still call ourselves 'British', (or at the very least English, Scottish etc). The problem is that over the last 50 years a lot of the new arrivals have been actively encouraged not to think of themselves as 'British' because 'British' meant nasty white imperialists.

So yes, I personally would like to see a 'monocultural' British society. It would be colourful and it would acknowledge input from all over the world - but it would be comnposed of people who thought of themselves as 'British' and respected our laws and traditions.

 

[coventrygull]

We've been multi-cultural since the Romans got off the ship. If you mean multi-racial, say so.

We've have had as much a say about post-war immigration as any other issue. To date the NF/BM/BNP have failed to win any significant electoral mandate for their "final solutions".

You make it sound as if the Romans came here and everyone welcomed them with open arms. So again where was the chance to vote for a multi cultural society.

 

[algie]

You make it sound as if the Romans came here and everyone welcomed them with open arms. So again where was the chance to vote for a multi cultural society.

They were made welcome Covs didn't you know? Queen Boudicca had thousands of chariots waiting to transport them