Luton Protests

[goldstone]

It should have been white faces opposing what our forces did in Iraq and are doing in Afghanistan.

If the moslems don't like it they should go home and oppose it where it's happening.

But if anyone is believing that "our boys" are heroes for invading someone else's country in order to impose our idea of democracy, then they need a reality check. These guys (and girls) joined the armed forces and fighting wars is what the armed forces do. I do my job to the best of my ability ... doesn't make me a "hero".

 

[algie]

It should have been white faces opposing what our forces did in Iraq and are doing in Afghanistan.

If the moslems don't like it they should go home and oppose it where it's happening.

But if anyone is believing that "our boys" are heroes for invading someone else's country in order to impose our idea of democracy, then they need a reality check. These guys (and girls) joined the armed forces and fighting wars is what the armed forces do. I do my job to the best of my ability ... doesn't make me a "hero".

The armed forces don't choose where to fight,they are sent there by this government to carry out duties.So your comment is rather stupid and yes they are heroes.Some even oppose the war but are under orders.

 

[Caveman]

Did you notice they were all white?

Which for Luton...

 

[British Bulldog]

These guys (and girls) joined the armed forces and fighting wars is what the armed forces do. I do my job to the best of my ability ... doesn't make me a "hero".

Unlike the armed forces I dont expect your job involves being shot at.

 

[The Cardinal]

As I live relatively near to Luton and have a number of friends there, let me put you in the picture. Luton is a tinderbox waiting to be lit, no amount of ant-racist rhetoric from keyboard anarchists in Brighton can dismiss that fact. The strength of feeling and resentment among the whites and the blacks of the town should be recognised as a fact.

What has happened is that there is no integration in Luton but colonisation. The Islamic block wield real power in the council and have the two Labour MPs in their pocket. It is the white and black working class who are the victims of Asian racism not the other way round, and I would be the first to condemn racist attacks whether perpetrated by whites on ethnics or the other way round. The growth of Islam in Luton is forcing many Christian people out of their homes, again many of them black residents who have been in the town since the 1950s.

Despite all the spin by the national and local media multi-culturism has been a disaster in Luton, and to regurgitate politically correct jargon will not address that fact.

How is the "growth of Islam" forcing people out of their homes?

I assume this "islamic bloc" votes for people or does it operate in some way that is not open to the majority population?

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

How is the "growth of Islam" forcing people out of their homes?

I assume this "islamic bloc" votes for people or does it operate in some way that is not open to the majority population?

Maybe these two links may help you.

Are Muslim enclaves no-go areas, forcing other people out, asks historian John Cornwell -Times Online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1139653/I-forced-trying-axe-Muslim-assemblies-claims-headmistress.html

 

[The Cardinal]

Maybe these two links may help you.

Are Muslim enclaves no-go areas, forcing other people out, asks historian John Cornwell -Times Online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1139653/I-forced-trying-axe-Muslim-assemblies-claims-headmistress.html

The second story is an allegation about a school in Sheffield and the first story contains the following:

An independent review of Oldham’s communities by David Ritchie after the riots of 2001 revealed extensive problems both in owner-occupied and council properties. Many thousands of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis live in deteriorated, inadequate owner-occupied properties. Attempts at mixing Asian and white families in council properties “have been largely unsuccessful”, according to Ritchie, “because of racist victimisation of incoming Asian families”. Oldham’s estate agents, moreover, have been accused of creating ghettos by “red-lining”, or setting limits to where Asians can buy in the interests of protecting property prices in “better” white areas.

I don't much in either story that suggests that Muslims are forcing people out of areas or behaving in ways that other interest groups behave.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

The second story is an allegation about a school in Sheffield and the first story contains the following:

An independent review of Oldham’s communities by David Ritchie after the riots of 2001 revealed extensive problems both in owner-occupied and council properties. Many thousands of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis live in deteriorated, inadequate owner-occupied properties. Attempts at mixing Asian and white families in council properties “have been largely unsuccessful”, according to Ritchie, “because of racist victimisation of incoming Asian families”. Oldham’s estate agents, moreover, have been accused of creating ghettos by “red-lining”, or setting limits to where Asians can buy in the interests of protecting property prices in “better” white areas.

I don't much in either story that suggests that Muslims are forcing people out of areas or behaving in ways that other interest groups behave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilkIeag1HUC


If this doesn't load properly, then go to You Tube and type in Ethnic Cleansing of Bury Park.

 

[Dr Q]

so f**king proud of their flag they have to hide their faces. Tw@ts probably don't even know what they're protesting about.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilkIeag1HUC


If this doesn't load properly, then go to You Tube and type in Ethnic Cleansing of Bury Park.

That is a truly disturbing video. Although no one is actually accused, specifically, of throwing the beer kegs / bricks or whatever.

But the disgraceful comments following it are really ironic. It's funny that the 'build a German oven' comments from people like 'Hitler777' come from people who not so long ago would've been the ones throwing bricks through black grannies' windows themselves.

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[Milton Keynes Seagull]

That is a truly disturbing video. Although no one is actually accused, specifically, of throwing the beer kegs / bricks or whatever.

But the disgraceful comments following it are really ironic. It's funny that the 'build a German oven' comments from people like 'Hitler777' come from people who not so long ago would've been the ones throwing bricks through black grannies' windows themselves.

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Islamic extremists are responsible and as I have said are attacking those white and black people who still remain in Bury Park. Shocking indeed, and I fear it will get worst.

 

[coventrygull]

As a patriotic Englishman who believes in protest and free speech if there's a choice between siding with the muslims or the racist twats then .... go muslims! Worth getting an old AFA mob together to go up and batter the twats do you think?

You may not realise it but Muslims don't like commies

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

You may not realise it but Muslims don't like commies

As the laughable failures of Respect soon found out?

 

[Billy the Fish]

But if anyone is believing that "our boys" are heroes for invading someone else's country in order to impose our idea of democracy, then they need a reality check. These guys (and girls) joined the armed forces and fighting wars is what the armed forces do. I do my job to the best of my ability ... doesn't make me a "hero".

Wasn't it you who nearly got a slap at Withdean for going on about this?

 

[Brovion]

You may not realise it but Muslims don't like commies

I know, I was being slightly facetious! I agree that the problem is far more complex than nasty white racists picking on poor downtrodden immigrants. I also agree that the whole 1980s left-wing "If you're not white you're 'black' and racism only goes one way" philospophy has been finally been shown up for the facile nonsense that it always was.

However in this instance one group has been peacefully protesting and one has been violently retaliating. Hampshire Seagulls laid out above the correct and more intelligent strategy that the 'pro-war' protestors should have taken instead of the standard bully-boy response.

 

[coventrygull]

I know, I was being slightly facetious! I agree that the problem is far more complex than nasty white racists picking on poor downtrodden immigrants. I also agree that the whole 1980s left-wing "If you're not white you're 'black' and racism only goes one way" philospophy has been finally been shown up for the facile nonsense that it always was.

However in this instance one group has been peacefully protesting and one has been violently retaliating. Hampshire Seagulls laid out above the correct and more intelligent strategy that the 'pro-war' protestors should have taken instead of the standard bully-boy response.

I agree with what you say. Whether left or right. We seemed to have lost the ability to have a good demo

 

[User removed 4]

As I live relatively near to Luton and have a number of friends there, let me put you in the picture. Luton is a tinderbox waiting to be lit, no amount of ant-racist rhetoric from keyboard anarchists in Brighton can dismiss that fact. The strength of feeling and resentment among the whites and the blacks of the town should be recognised as a fact.

What has happened is that there is no integration in Luton but colonisation. The Islamic block wield real power in the council and have the two Labour MPs in their pocket. It is the white and black working class who are the victims of Asian racism not the other way round, and I would be the first to condemn racist attacks whether perpetrated by whites on ethnics or the other way round. The growth of Islam in Luton is forcing many Christian people out of their homes, again many of them black residents who have been in the town since the 1950s.

Despite all the spin by the national and local media multi-culturism has been a disaster in Luton, and to regurgitate politically correct jargon will not address that fact.

what a well argued case, no doubt most of our resident right-ons will find a flimsy argument against it , but i'm waiting with interest to see how they will try to work the phrase "knuckle dragger" into any argument against you.

 

[Common as Mook]

what a well argued case, no doubt most of our resident right-ons will find a flimsy argument against it , but i'm waiting with interest to see how they will try to work the phrase "knuckle dragger" into any argument against you.

I agree bushy - a very well argued case. Doesn't mean there shouldn't be a bit of discussion/disagreement around though, does it?

 

[Brovion]

what a well argued case, no doubt most of our resident right-ons will find a flimsy argument against it , but i'm waiting with interest to see how they will try to work the phrase "knuckle dragger" into any argument against you.

Ok, I'll try. I too agree with MK seagull. I think that Luton is a nice neat example of the almost total failure of Britain's multi-cultural 'all cultures are of equal value and immigrants are always the victims' policies of the last 30 years.

That doesn't excuse the actions of the knuckle-draggers in the video though.

 

[User removed 4]

I agree bushy - a very well argued case. Doesn't mean there shouldn't be a bit of discussion/disagreement around though, does it?

any opinion other than mine is without any merit whatsoever.