Luton Protests

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

OK - integrate is probably the wrong word. How about 'Accept' ?

What exactly should Lutonans accept? Anti white racism, the imposition of sharia law which has considerable support in Luton, the muslim community dominating local politics and treating the white community as second class citizens in their own town? Asian gangs "ruling" the streets with the police under orders to ignore their involvement in drug pushing and other equally obnoxious activities.

The recent demonstrations in Luton were called by a group called United People of Luton. They specifically called for people from different communities within the town to come together to oppose Islamic extremism and the Islamification (the imposition of their cultural values) on their town.

The fact that a few football yobbos saw the opportunity of causing trouble, shouldn't detract from the core message.

 

[adrian29uk]

As I live relatively near to Luton and have a number of friends there, let me put you in the picture. Luton is a tinderbox waiting to be lit, no amount of ant-racist rhetoric from keyboard anarchists in Brighton can dismiss that fact. The strength of feeling and resentment among the whites and the blacks of the town should be recognised as a fact.

What has happened is that there is no integration in Luton but colonisation. The Islamic block wield real power in the council and have the two Labour MPs in their pocket. It is the white and black working class who are the victims of Asian racism not the other way round, and I would be the first to condemn racist attacks whether perpetrated by whites on ethnics or the other way round. The growth of Islam in Luton is forcing many Christian people out of their homes, again many of them black residents who have been in the town since the 1950s.

Despite all the spin by the national and local media multi-culturism has been a disaster in Luton, and to regurgitate politically correct jargon will not address that fact.

Visit Luton every weekend to see GF. Your correct about Luton being a tinderbox waiting to be lit.

May sound stupid but I don't really walk around my girlfriends area at night. I feel luton is a very uneasy place and I also feel their is definate lack of intergration too, which is real shame.

What with the protestors coming out against the soldiers a few months back and now this!!

By the way a Mosque was also set on Fire a few weeks back. I remember seeing this on the news and reading it in the local paper.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

f***ing hell what a bunch of inbred *****!

whatever the situtation in luton, who acts like that!?

could've done with a suicide bomber right there, eh? really cleaned up the place.

As the four suicide bombers actually left Luton on 7/7 on that infamous day, I'm sure that sentiment will go down really well in the town and among the families of the 53 victims who were subsequently blown to bits.

 

[Common as Mook]

What exactly should Lutonans accept? Anti white racism, the imposition of sharia law which has considerable support in Luton, the muslim community dominating local politics and treating the white community as second class citizens in their own town? Asian gangs "ruling" the streets with the police under orders to ignore their involvement in drug pushing and other equally obnoxious activities.

The recent demonstrations in Luton were called by a group called United People of Luton. They specifically called for people from different communities within the town to come together to oppose Islamic extremism and the Islamification (the imposition of their cultural values) on their town.

The fact that a few football yobbos saw the opportunity of causing trouble, shouldn't detract from the core message.

As I inferred in my original post, I don't pretend to know much about it.

All I am trying to say is that if there was more acceptance of the fact that it is possible for two cultures to live together then maybe it wouldn't be such a 'tinderbox?' That works both ways and I was merely pointing out that maybe the Anglo-Saxon population aren't toally blameless for the situation as it stands.

I am more than prepared to be proved wrong on this though.

 

[algie]

As I inferred in my original post, I don't pretend to know much about it.

All I am trying to say is that if there was more acceptance of the fact that it is possible for two cultures to live together then maybe it wouldn't be such a 'tinderbox?' That works both ways and I was merely pointing out that maybe the Anglo-Saxon population aren't toally blameless for the situation as it stands.

I am more than prepared to be proved wrong on this though.

You still don't get it do you? Read Milton Keynes post again PROPERLY and stop looking through it with rose tinted glasses.What is it you don't grasp about his post?

 

[clapham_gull]

Hundreds of thousands turned up to the anti-war protests in central London, but only a handful turned up to this.

You'd think that in such a hotbed of radical Islam they'd be a few more wouldn't you.

 

[Common as Mook]

You still don't get it do you? Read Milton Keynes post again PROPERLY and stop looking through it with rose tinted glasses.What is it you don't grasp about his post?

Am I supposed to take what he says verbatim and not ask any questions? Just because someone lives in Luton, it doesn't necessarily follow that he knows ALL of the facts.

Don't piggy back on someone elses argument because you are too stupid/ignorant/illiterate (delete as applicable) to come up with your own.

What don't YOU understand about that?

 

[Raphael Meade]

As the four suicide bombers actually left Luton on 7/7 on that infamous day, I'm sure that sentiment will go down really well in the town and among the families of the 53 victims who were subsequently blown to bits.

fair point, slightly insensitive, but how do they really think marauding around like that is gonna help any cause!?!

 

[CHAPPERS]

On the flip side, I was strolling around Edgware Road yesterday and practically all the muslim ladies were wearing full burkhas.

Same in Kilburn.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

What is sad is that the Muslim protesters got it right, and these got it wrong. The Muslims knew exactly how to do it - turn up with inflammatory posters (but nothing to incite racial hatred), and stand there, shouting the same slogans. They didn't get drawn into slanging matches, and offered violence to no-one. They knew that they would be attacked, and indeed the only arrests on that day were the supporters who were (quite rightly) antagonised by the whole affair. And the follow ups to this have both revolved around football-yob hijacked protests which have highlighted the fact that when young Britain protests, it does it in a violent manner. If they had any sense, they would have liaised with the local police and sent out women and pensioners to stand in a Muslim area with anti-bomber/Muslim violence and anti-Al Qaeda/UK recruiting slogans and placards, and let them react, not to do it this way. Avoid the chance of being arrested for inciting racial hatred, but antagonising them enough to get public reaction. We still do not know how to play these people at their own game, and we will keep being represented as racist thugs when they are portrayed as a vocal minority who can return to their followers and show how they were victimised and attacked. It DOES NOT MATTER if this is not the case, it is enough to recruit a few more followers to their cause!

 

[CHAPPERS]

Asian gangs "ruling" the streets with the police under orders to ignore their involvement in drug pushing .

what?

 

[Raphael Meade]

what?

quite.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

fair point, slightly insensitive, but how do they really think marauding around like that is gonna help any cause!?!

The plan was to have a dignified march organized by the UPL group whose organizers intended it to be welcoming to all those who opposed Islamic extremism. A small group broke away intent on causing trouble which they did, some of whom were obviously there just for that reason. That of course should be condemned, but Al Majiroun the hardline fundamentalist group that promotes Jihad openly sets up stall and dispenses literature week in and week out. Lutonians are rightly sick of it.

The same logic applies to the recent opposition to the Iraq War. Just because a minority of far left thugs intent on violence were involved didn't detract from that message, which incidentally I fully supported.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

what?

A common sentiment in Luton I assure you.

Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: News :: Asian terror gangs target UK with killer heroin

 

[Questions]

A common sentiment in Luton I assure you.

Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: News :: Asian terror gangs target UK with killer heroin

You almost had me on board then but you blew your cover when you quoted The Daily Star.

 

[queens park pete]

Visit Luton every weekend to see GF. Your correct about Luton being a tinderbox waiting to be lit.

May sound stupid but I don't really walk around my girlfriends area at night. I feel luton is a very uneasy place and I also feel their is definate lack of intergration too, which is real shame.

What with the protestors coming out against the soldiers a few months back and now this!!

By the way a Mosque was also set on Fire a few weeks back. I remember seeing this on the news and reading it in the local paper.

Most of my relatives live in Luton and the tinderbox idea is right, sadly.

Yesterday's mini Notting Hill multi-cultural carnival was widely supported, as usual, by almost every community including the Muslim one. It is an especially big day for the Afro-Caribbeans, but everyone is welcome. My mum used to think it was the best thing about living in Luton!

However, fear of counter demos by Islamic separatist/ sharia agitators ensured a high police presence including police vans at Leagrave station all day, 4 miles from the main parades. My sister in law gave the whole thing a miss because of rumoured aggro from the separatists spoiling the family day. Thank God it pissed down later on!

To put it in perspective, its like the Brighton EDO brigade deciding to demonstrate during the children's parade in the Brighton Festival- a total irrelevance from a group which represent the views of about 150 people in a town of 200,000!

 

[sir albion]

Don't get me started on muslims as these protesters should be booted outIm glad our protesters where out for once as these muslims are nothing but trouble and disrespectful to our gods own country.

Of course its the minority but it works both ways

 

[The Spanish]

In what way is Britain a "hard-core" muslim country in the same league as Saudi Arabia?

You really do not have a clue about much do you. The wearing of burkas and the adoption of other forms of visual markers of your islamic identity is an increasingly common political act in this country.

You, being a bit of a clueless smart alec, might think that all muslim women in this country spend all day indoors, illiterate and stirring a pot of curry and just waiting to be liberated, but some are highly politicised and adopt this themselves without any bullying from imams or their husbands.

You will not see as many Bangladeshi women in Dhaka dressed like you do in East London. But then they dont feel the need to do a big f*** you to the country they live in.

 

[algie]

You, being a bit of a clueless smart alec, might think that all muslim women in this country spend all day indoors, illiterate and stirring a pot of curry and just waiting to be liberated

I haven't laughed so much in ages.That really tickled me

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

You almost had me on board then but you blew your cover when you quoted The Daily Star.

You know I knew someone would berate me for quoting the story from that particular "paper". However the "quality" papers would treat a story like this with kid gloves so a quote from the Guardian isn't available.

Would a story from the Daily Telegraph or The Times suffice?

Or you could take my word for it.