AlastairWatts
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We don’t know what Labour’s policies will be in 2024, give them time.
same as usual then? Neither did Corbyn
We don’t know what Labour’s policies will be in 2024, give them time.
same as usual then? Neither did Corbyn
What most also forget is that Starmer supported Corbyn throughout up until the election had passed, so he is not exactly squeaky clean
Supported Corbyn or supported Labour Party policies as decided by the party conference?
I love it when people who would never ever vote labour criticise Starmer for biding his time, then managing to persuade the alledly left wing rank and file to elect him as leader, whereupon two of his early acts are to get rid of Wrong Bailey, and stand by as the party suspends Corbyn (damaging the latter forever as a credible politial force; no further action necessary).
Obviously, what people who would never vote labour would really prefer is that Starmer have a record of consistently voting against labour in Parliament, threatening to resign over Corbyn's wayward policies, eventually flouncing off, forming a new party, giving up on that, and finally vanising into the clammy bosom of the Liberal Democrats where he would forever more be unable to lay a glove on the Conservative and Unionist Party.
No. Sorry. I take seriously the opinion of folk who would like to be able to vote labour and are cheered to see the gentle cleansing of the stables without Kinnock-style blood-letting, under the new Steer Calmer leadership. I snort with derision at the implacable enmies of any form of labour party who offer whataboutery concerning Starmer's failure to commit political suicide during Corbyns hopeless era.
I love it when people who would never ever vote labour criticise Starmer for biding his time, then managing to persuade the alledly left wing rank and file to elect him as leader, whereupon two of his early acts are to get rid of Wrong Bailey, and stand by as the party suspends Corbyn (damaging the latter forever as a credible politial force; no further action necessary).
Obviously, what people who would never vote labour would really prefer is that Starmer have a record of consistently voting against labour in Parliament, threatening to resign over Corbyn's wayward policies, eventually flouncing off, forming a new party, giving up on that, and finally vanising into the clammy bosom of the Liberal Democrats where he would forever more be unable to lay a glove on the Conservative and Unionist Party.
No. Sorry. I take seriously the opinion of folk who would like to be able to vote labour and are cheered to see the gentle cleansing of the stables without Kinnock-style blood-letting, under the new Steer Calmer leadership. I snort with derision at the implacable enmies of any form of labour party who offer whataboutery concerning Starmer's failure to commit political suicide during Corbyns hopeless era.
Absolutely spot on
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day (he says, feigning modesty) so, stand by for another cracker after chucking out time tonight
You are joking , I’m assuming .
Supported Corbyn or supported Labour Party policies as decided by the party conference?
Starmer will be fuming and rightly so. Like Trump, Corbyn has obviously installed his own people into powerful places within the party whom could influence them for years. Looks like Starmer has a bigger job than I first thought of getting the party as electable as he is. Mind you, if Johnson is still PM in 4 years time, it won’t really matter what the Labour Party looks like or who is in charge, they’ll be in Downing Street.
The anti-Semitism bullsh*t with Corbyn has always been bullsh*t - Corbyn has been neutered and that is why the suspension has been lifted. He should quietly swan off into retirement because he is no longer of any use to the left. As for Starmer - the Blairite witch hunt against the left will continue - many more will be expelled and thousands of members will continue to leave. The loss in LP membership since the coup against Corbyn is now topping 100,000 and will continue unabated - the vast majority of working class people have no interest in mobilising for a second string pale pink Tory party.
Jeremy Corbyn will not sit as Labour MP after Keir Starmer refuses to reinstate whip.
I love it when people who would never ever vote labour criticise Starmer for biding his time, then managing to persuade the alledly left wing rank and file to elect him as leader, whereupon two of his early acts are to get rid of Wrong Bailey, and stand by as the party suspends Corbyn (damaging the latter forever as a credible politial force; no further action necessary).
Obviously, what people who would never vote labour would really prefer is that Starmer have a record of consistently voting against labour in Parliament, threatening to resign over Corbyn's wayward policies, eventually flouncing off, forming a new party, giving up on that, and finally vanising into the clammy bosom of the Liberal Democrats where he would forever more be unable to lay a glove on the Conservative and Unionist Party.
No. Sorry. I take seriously the opinion of folk who would like to be able to vote labour and are cheered to see the gentle cleansing of the stables without Kinnock-style blood-letting, under the new Steer Calmer leadership. I snort with derision at the implacable enmies of any form of labour party who offer whataboutery concerning Starmer's failure to commit political suicide during Corbyns hopeless era.
Jeremy Corbyn will not sit as Labour MP after Keir Starmer refuses to reinstate whip.
I love it when people who would never ever vote labour criticise Starmer for biding his time, then managing to persuade the alledly left wing rank and file to elect him as leader, whereupon two of his early acts are to get rid of Wrong Bailey, and stand by as the party suspends Corbyn (damaging the latter forever as a credible politial force; no further action necessary).
Obviously, what people who would never vote labour would really prefer is that Starmer have a record of consistently voting against labour in Parliament, threatening to resign over Corbyn's wayward policies, eventually flouncing off, forming a new party, giving up on that, and finally vanising into the clammy bosom of the Liberal Democrats where he would forever more be unable to lay a glove on the Conservative and Unionist Party.
No. Sorry. I take seriously the opinion of folk who would like to be able to vote labour and are cheered to see the gentle cleansing of the stables without Kinnock-style blood-letting, under the new Steer Calmer leadership. I snort with derision at the implacable enmies of any form of labour party who offer whataboutery concerning Starmer's failure to commit political suicide during Corbyns hopeless era.
Voted Labour all my working life up until the last election. Not a lemming though. Will go back if things improve within the party. Time will tell as a civil war is brewing within. Hopefully a purge by Kier will kill it
I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee. I take it you haven't experienced a Labour government before. The union's will have them by the short and curlies. That's when you will see jobs emigrating to other countries and unemployment rocketing. Seems a bit weird from someone who is always pleading poverty
Mostly trying to recover from Labour governments.
It's a Labour thing. Something for nothing and just ride roughshod over all those who dared to work hard and improve themselves from humble beginnings.
I wonder if the left leaning on here would like to redistribute what wealth they have however little to set the bench mark
Wasn't this whole situation kicked off by Labour when they were last in power and subsequent governments just let it roll.