[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......
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Weststander
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Why are you ignoring the independent EHRC report? Labour became a safe haven for racist scum under Corbyn.
clapham_gull
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It's a bit more nuanced than that in my mind and I've read deeply around the subject.
I'll take onboard that the scale of antisemitism was probably exaggerated in the way that all issues in parties are exaggerated by the press and their opponents.
However (and importantly) Corbyn as an individual gave an indirect green light to it because of his political views and previous statements.
Corbyn may not have been anti-Semitic personally, but it was far easier to be so under his leadership.
There are parallels with Farage in that respect. Corbyn and his supporters really need to own that, they attracted extremism.
Such heavy wording. Anti Zionist I am but consider Labour support of the UK sending arms to kill Gazans and allow Israel's Far Right Netanhayu to do and kill as he pleases worse than racist.
Weststander
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Whataboutery at its worst.
Racists against Jews in the UK until Starmer purged them, shouldn’t have a jot do with a 2,500 year old conflict on another continent.
I call Brits joking about the Holocaust, questioning the numbers murdered, drawing or thumbs up drawings with Jewish tropes …. all scum. What do call them …. comrades?
nevergoagain
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Well after that interlude, let's get back to Lambeth council. Forcing tenants to sign NDA's to get money repaid ?, that can't be Labour, a party for the people can it ?
A London council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them for building work and services they had been overcharged for - in some cases by tens of thousands of pounds.
Lambeth Council was asked by the BBC how many leaseholders it had asked to sign confidentiality clauses or non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) over a period of five years. It said 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements.
The Labour-run council has paid out nearly £1.6m in building works refunds to these residents, at an average of more than £11,500 per case. Leaseholders have told the BBC how they were refunded after being charged for shoddy work to their homes - and sometimes for work that never took place at all.
A London council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them for building work and services they had been overcharged for - in some cases by tens of thousands of pounds.
Lambeth Council was asked by the BBC how many leaseholders it had asked to sign confidentiality clauses or non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) over a period of five years. It said 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements.
The Labour-run council has paid out nearly £1.6m in building works refunds to these residents, at an average of more than £11,500 per case. Leaseholders have told the BBC how they were refunded after being charged for shoddy work to their homes - and sometimes for work that never took place at all.
Lambeth Council refunded £1.5m to 'gagged' leaseholders
A council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them.
www.bbc.co.uk
Thunder Bolt
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Leaseholders are not tenants. The contractors were unreliable and failed to complete the work in some cases.Well after that interlude, let's get back to Lambeth council. Forcing tenants to sign NDA's to get money repaid ?, that can't be Labour, a party for the people can it ?
A London council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them for building work and services they had been overcharged for - in some cases by tens of thousands of pounds.
Lambeth Council was asked by the BBC how many leaseholders it had asked to sign confidentiality clauses or non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) over a period of five years. It said 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements.
The Labour-run council has paid out nearly £1.6m in building works refunds to these residents, at an average of more than £11,500 per case. Leaseholders have told the BBC how they were refunded after being charged for shoddy work to their homes - and sometimes for work that never took place at all.
Lambeth Council refunded £1.5m to 'gagged' leaseholders
A council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them.www.bbc.co.uk
We asked the council why it legally prevents people from telling others about their refunds and it said this was "to avoid other leaseholders from using arguments made in separate and unrelated disputes. This enables the council to handle disputes on a case-by-case basis.
Mmm the below from the Leasehold Advisory Service
Leaseholder. A leaseholder is someone who owns a property on a lease, typically for 99, 125 or 999 years. The length of the lease decreases year by year until it eventually runs out. A leaseholder is also called a tenant, but this should not be confused with short-term agreements.
I guess they are technically tenants not necessarily tenants of the council
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
No, I owned a property ie with a mortgage that was leasehold. Then Kirkless council decided to sell the leases to owners in our road, so the majority of us became freeholders.
My parents in law owned their house all their lives, but it was leasehold and sold as leasehold.
Going back to the article it said Lambeth council did own a small proportion of the properties.
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Well after that interlude, let's get back to Lambeth council. Forcing tenants to sign NDA's to get money repaid ?, that can't be Labour, a party for the people can it ?
A London council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them for building work and services they had been overcharged for - in some cases by tens of thousands of pounds.
Lambeth Council was asked by the BBC how many leaseholders it had asked to sign confidentiality clauses or non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) over a period of five years. It said 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements.
The Labour-run council has paid out nearly £1.6m in building works refunds to these residents, at an average of more than £11,500 per case. Leaseholders have told the BBC how they were refunded after being charged for shoddy work to their homes - and sometimes for work that never took place at all.
Lambeth Council refunded £1.5m to 'gagged' leaseholders
A council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them.www.bbc.co.uk
Your desperation all over this thread is making Sunak's last few weeks campaigning look positively composed
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Still no solution? Haven't heard.
Could Labour stop the boats?
Labour has no proposal to remove migrants arriving by unauthorised routes to a “safe third country” - so does Keir Starmer’s plan to deal with “illegal” migration stack up?
Let us imagine a small boat of asylum seeking migrants arrives on the Kent coast next month. Aboard are men, women and children from the countries which typically make up arrivals coming across the channel.
Half of the passengers have come from countries so unstable there is no chance they can be returned: Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria, Iraq and Sudan. Almost all come from states with which the UK has no agreement to return those not granted asylum.
Answers on a fag packet.
Could Labour stop the boats?
Labour has no proposal to remove migrants arriving by unauthorised routes to a “safe third country” - so does Keir Starmer’s plan to deal with “illegal” migration stack up?
Let us imagine a small boat of asylum seeking migrants arrives on the Kent coast next month. Aboard are men, women and children from the countries which typically make up arrivals coming across the channel.
Half of the passengers have come from countries so unstable there is no chance they can be returned: Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria, Iraq and Sudan. Almost all come from states with which the UK has no agreement to return those not granted asylum.
Answers on a fag packet.
Gabbiano
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But he only started the thread to "balance out the Tory one!" After all they're all as bad as each other right?Your desperation all over this thread is making Sunak's last few weeks campaigning look positively composed
Excuse me while I trawl through the internet to find any possible article on local councils across England which paints Labour in anything but a purely positive light.
As if anyone will change their vote now based on what Lambeth Council have done in management of a council estate.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Forcing people is a very emotive way of describing legal agreements. Nobody made them accept their compensation.Well after that interlude, let's get back to Lambeth council. Forcing tenants to sign NDA's to get money repaid ?, that can't be Labour, a party for the people can it ?
A London council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them for building work and services they had been overcharged for - in some cases by tens of thousands of pounds.
Lambeth Council was asked by the BBC how many leaseholders it had asked to sign confidentiality clauses or non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) over a period of five years. It said 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements.
The Labour-run council has paid out nearly £1.6m in building works refunds to these residents, at an average of more than £11,500 per case. Leaseholders have told the BBC how they were refunded after being charged for shoddy work to their homes - and sometimes for work that never took place at all.
Lambeth Council refunded £1.5m to 'gagged' leaseholders
A council has been forcing residents into silence as a condition of them receiving money owed to them.www.bbc.co.uk
Now look at it from a legal position. Telling you neighbour how much compensation you received when theirs is slightly different causes resentment, in the same way discussing wages at work, or yearly bonuses.
It‘s standard procedure and there is no suggestion of coercion, which is what you are implying.
It even states 136 residents had entered into confidentiality agreements, so contradicts itself.
Thunder Bolt
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Blimey, give them a chance to get the keys to the Home Office first.
Thanks to the massive backlog of asylum processing, it will take a while to sort out the queues.
nevergoagain
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No desperation here, just posting for fun and reactions, your oh so holy replies make me smile.Your desperation all over this thread is making Sunak's last few weeks campaigning look positively composed
….. the response to almost everything post 4th July.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
That’s strange, it’s only 1st today.
Why send them back when you can just give them a house and a job in the NHS , problem solved , not rocket science is it ?