[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[Bodian]

Because more arrived than were processed ?.

Thanks for posting the "It would have been much worse under the Tories" though.

It's not that simple though. As that article says, more interviews and decisions have been held than previously. And as more investment is put into the processing, this will increase.

But because of the number of appeals and previous decisions being appealed - the number that are still outstanding overall has risen.

 

[cunning fergus]

How we got here IS a party political point.

The current situation for the UK is largely down to Brexit and having an Oven Ready clown in charge who thought maintaining the Dublin Agreement would be a sign of weakness on our part - that combined with our foreign policy in troubled areas of the world!

Sure, the journey to this point is the consequence of the political decisions made by the incumbent Governments in the last 30 years, however the circumstances now are completely different to what we previously faced.

The mantra that somehow everyone will be better off with a constant flow of immigrants has been exposed for what it is and always was…..bollox. Immigration has never been higher and yet tax and the cost of living has never so expensive. I know by the way that is NOT the immigrants fault.

This Government needs to square the circle, we are in a hole of our own making and taxpayers are being told about the tough choices that need to be made. The Government could, for example, radically reset energy prices by removing the link to gas prices which would remove the presently overwhelming pressure on households and businesses.

Of course it would be tough, they would take a hit on tax, and no doubt some big businesses would moan but it would be a sure fire way to boosting the economy and their popularity.

Spending £6.4bn on asylum while committing even more billions to Ukraine and other troubled foreign parts while cutting the legs off pensioners is political idiocy. Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with that.

 

[darkwolf666]

Sure, the journey to this point is the consequence of the political decisions made by the incumbent Governments in the last 30 years, however the circumstances now are completely different to what we previously faced.

The mantra that somehow everyone will be better off with a constant flow of immigrants has been exposed for what it is and always was…..bollox. Immigration has never been higher and yet tax and the cost of living has never so expensive. I know by the way that is NOT the immigrants fault.

This Government needs to square the circle, we are in a hole of our own making and taxpayers are being told about the tough choices that need to be made. The Government could, for example, radically reset energy prices by removing the link to gas prices which would remove the presently overwhelming pressure on households and businesses.

Of course it would be tough, they would take a hit on tax, and no doubt some big businesses would moan but it would be a sure fire way to boosting the economy and their popularity.

Spending £6.4bn on asylum while committing even more billions to Ukraine and other troubled foreign parts while cutting the legs off pensioners is political idiocy. Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with that.

I must have got confused somewhere down the line, as I believed I was replying to your post concerning the cost of asylum seekers, £6.4 billion, I believe. Which IS a direct result of the previous government...

Cutting the legs off pensioners is rather over dramatic, too...

 

[nevergoagain]

It's not that simple though. As that article says, more interviews and decisions have been held than previously. And as more investment is put into the processing, this will increase.

But because of the number of appeals and previous decisions being appealed - the number that are still outstanding overall has risen.

Well it is really. An application is reviewed, a decision made and then appealed will still only be one number in the backlog wherever it is in the chain. I fully acknowledge though that the processing has picked up a lot which is great but to me it still means arrivals are outstripping the processing speed despite the large numbers of civvys transferred in to deal with it.

 

[cunning fergus]

I must have got confused somewhere down the line, as I believed I was replying to your post concerning the cost of asylum seekers, £6.4 billion, I believe. Which IS a direct result of the previous government...

Cutting the legs off pensioners is rather over dramatic, too...

Sure, the Tories largely created the mess, and that’s why they were trounced at the general election. They may never recover. However Labour are currently doubling down on the Tories incompetence.

Cutting the legs of pensioners may be dramatic but that is the public view of Labour’s current economic policies, and EVERY penny spent that is considered as waste or being lavished on pointless projects overseas will be seen through that lens. The current U.K. No 1 download song is evidently proof of that!!!

The fact they didn’t have the political sense to recognise this consequence is stupefying.

If RR’s budget crashes us into a recession this political juxtaposition with removing pensioner benefits whilst giving money away is going to be put on steroids. And that happens it’s all on this lot not the Tories.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Every time I see one of the three threads bounced, but especially this one, I think to myself “well that must be it. Starmer’s resigned, there’s been mass lawbreaking in number ten, inflations just hit 10% and the whole country’s on strike. I must have missed it”.

And then it isn’t.

 

[Berty23]

Sure, the journey to this point is the consequence of the political decisions made by the incumbent Governments in the last 30 years, however the circumstances now are completely different to what we previously faced.

The mantra that somehow everyone will be better off with a constant flow of immigrants has been exposed for what it is and always was…..bollox. Immigration has never been higher and yet tax and the cost of living has never so expensive. I know by the way that is NOT the immigrants fault.

This Government needs to square the circle, we are in a hole of our own making and taxpayers are being told about the tough choices that need to be made. The Government could, for example, radically reset energy prices by removing the link to gas prices which would remove the presently overwhelming pressure on households and businesses.

Of course it would be tough, they would take a hit on tax, and no doubt some big businesses would moan but it would be a sure fire way to boosting the economy and their popularity.

Spending £6.4bn on asylum while committing even more billions to Ukraine and other troubled foreign parts while cutting the legs off pensioners is political idiocy. Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with that.

Actually brexit has harmed the economy so every tough decision is directly linked to brexit. No one is even pretending it has not harmed the economy anymore are they? Those who are still pro brexit are now arguing we did not go hard enough rather than it being a bad thing per se. Who would have thought that cutting off the trade legs with our biggest trading partners would be a bad idea? And then it has caused more of the “wrong type” of immigrants. Again. We knew this would happen.

 

[cunning fergus]

Actually brexit has harmed the economy so every tough decision is directly linked to brexit. No one is even pretending it has not harmed the economy anymore are they? Those who are still pro brexit are now arguing we did not go hard enough rather than it being a bad thing per se. Who would have thought that cutting off the trade legs with our biggest trading partners would be a bad idea? And then it has caused more of the “wrong type” of immigrants. Again. We knew this would happen.

I know how it goes, Brexit is bad, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery and war is peace.

If of course, you were really only concerned about this country’s economic performance you would equally realise at this point there is an opportunity to deepen links to our biggest national trading partner with whom we share a common language and legal frameworks. A trading partner that will be super boosted by Trump’s presidency, regardless of whether you love him or hate him.

The EU is failing on multiple fronts, principally because it’s bureaucratic monster inhibiting growth not finding ways to maximise it, and if you don’t believe me then check out Mario Draghi’s recent comments.

Musk praises Draghi, calls for less EU red tape

Elon Musk’s X is subject to a Commission probe on compliance with the bloc’s content-moderation rulebook.

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I suspect for many though it’s not really about economic performance, and if given a choice of a trade deal with the US or rejoining the EU, they would happily climb into bed with a bureaucratic monster. I know the mantra, ignorance is strength etc.

 

[Berty23]

I know how it goes, Brexit is bad, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery and war is peace.

If of course, you were really only concerned about this country’s economic performance you would equally realise at this point there is an opportunity to deepen links to our biggest national trading partner with whom we share a common language and legal frameworks. A trading partner that will be super boosted by Trump’s presidency, regardless of whether you love him or hate him.

The EU is failing on multiple fronts, principally because it’s bureaucratic monster inhibiting growth not finding ways to maximise it, and if you don’t believe me then check out Mario Draghi’s recent comments.

Musk praises Draghi, calls for less EU red tape

Elon Musk’s X is subject to a Commission probe on compliance with the bloc’s content-moderation rulebook.

search.app

I suspect for many though it’s not really about economic performance, and if given a choice of a trade deal with the US or rejoining the EU, they would happily climb into bed with a bureaucratic monster. I know the mantra, ignorance is strength etc.

So just to be clear. You think language is a bigger barrier to trade than a massive ocean? Language was not even a barrier this summer when I was in a Turkey and I had a long chat with the cleaner even though we could speak none of the other’s language. Tech is a wonderful thing but as yet it can’t seem to make oceans disappear.

 

[darkwolf666]

I know how it goes, Brexit is bad, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery and war is peace.

If of course, you were really only concerned about this country’s economic performance you would equally realise at this point there is an opportunity to deepen links to our biggest national trading partner with whom we share a common language and legal frameworks. A trading partner that will be super boosted by Trump’s presidency, regardless of whether you love him or hate him.

The EU is failing on multiple fronts, principally because it’s bureaucratic monster inhibiting growth not finding ways to maximise it, and if you don’t believe me then check out Mario Draghi’s recent comments.

Musk praises Draghi, calls for less EU red tape

Elon Musk’s X is subject to a Commission probe on compliance with the bloc’s content-moderation rulebook.

search.app

I suspect for many though it’s not really about economic performance, and if given a choice of a trade deal with the US or rejoining the EU, they would happily climb into bed with a bureaucratic monster. I know the mantra, ignorance is strength etc.

In the paraphrased words of Dick Emery, "I like you, you're funny"!

 

[nevergoagain]

A peerage for Sue Gray? - Imagine my shock.

 

[BadFish]

I know how it goes, Brexit is bad, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery and war is peace.

If of course, you were really only concerned about this country’s economic performance you would equally realise at this point there is an opportunity to deepen links to our biggest national trading partner with whom we share a common language and legal frameworks. A trading partner that will be super boosted by Trump’s presidency, regardless of whether you love him or hate him.

The EU is failing on multiple fronts, principally because it’s bureaucratic monster inhibiting growth not finding ways to maximise it, and if you don’t believe me then check out Mario Draghi’s recent comments.

Musk praises Draghi, calls for less EU red tape

Elon Musk’s X is subject to a Commission probe on compliance with the bloc’s content-moderation rulebook.

search.app

I suspect for many though it’s not really about economic performance, and if given a choice of a trade deal with the US or rejoining the EU, they would happily climb into bed with a bureaucratic monster. I know the mantra, ignorance is strength etc.

You don't half talk a load of bollocks!!

 

[Machiavelli]

You don't half talk a load of bollocks!!

Only half?

 

[Rdodge30]

Every time I see one of the three threads bounced, but especially this one, I think to myself “well that must be it. Starmer’s resigned, there’s been mass lawbreaking in number ten, inflations just hit 10% and the whole country’s on strike. I must have missed it”.

And then it isn’t.

Hold that thought though…

 

[nevergoagain]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3zqen209go - They really aren't all the same are they.

 

[fly high]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3zqen209go - They really aren't all the same are they.

Innocent until proved guilty although if she was a Tory guaranteed many would just assume she's guilty.

 

[superseagull1994]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3zqen209go - They really aren't all the same are they.

Was a very stupid appointment given they knew her family links before hand, just asking for trouble.