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dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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And where in the Labour manifesto was a promise to compensate Waspie women? And can you tell me where he promised it in the election debates?
I doubt Labour will try and make any sort of campaign on the basis that everything they say (apart from during an election campaign) means nothing at all. People might not trust them if they try that.
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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That wasn't the point made as you well know.
OK, so let's take another thing. Brexit.

In 2016 Starmer was a Remainer. In government he has chosen not to rejoin the EU. He also didn't put 'rejoining the EU' in the Labour manifesto.

Is this other example of pragmatic reconsideration once in charge (and, indeed, preparing a manifesto to be in charge) one you approve of? Or do you think we should rejoin?
 


rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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But isn't it the constant backsliding we are now seeing from Starmer's Labour Party precisely why so many say "politicians? They're all the same"?

I wouldn't vote for Starmer's Labour Party because I didn't ever trust him. But deep down I had hoped I was wrong. From what I've seen so far, I don't think I was. Look at the new employment laws, the majority of which I fully support. Instead of introducing them immediately, they have been kicked into the long grass for a lengthy "consultation period" and won't come into effect until 2026 at the earliest.

FFS This government was elected to take decisions and make changes. Not to sit around for two years asking "what do you think?"
 


darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
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Sittingbourne, Kent
But isn't it the constant backsliding we are now seeing from Starmer's Labour Party precisely why so many say "politicians? They're all the same"?

I wouldn't vote for Starmer's Labour Party because I didn't ever trust him. But deep down I had hoped I was wrong. From what I've seen so far, I don't think I was. Look at the new employment laws, the majority of which I fully support. Instead of introducing them immediately, they have been kicked into the long grass for a lengthy "consultation period" and won't come into effect until 2026 at the earliest.

FFS This government was elected to take decisions and make changes. Not to sit around for two years asking "what do you think?"
Yet when they make quick decisions, people (the media in particular) don't like it... Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
 




nevergoagain

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Jul 28, 2005
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OK, so let's take another thing. Brexit.

In 2016 Starmer was a Remainer. In government he has chosen not to rejoin the EU. He also didn't put 'rejoining the EU' in the Labour manifesto.

Is this other example of pragmatic reconsideration once in charge (and, indeed, preparing a manifesto to be in charge) one you approve of? Or do you think we should rejoin?
What I think matters not, I had a view and maintain it. Is politics is just posturing to be able to oppose everything the existing government do but then take a completely different view when they take power ?.
 


Guinness Boy

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What I think matters not, I had a view and maintain it. Is politics is just posturing to be able to oppose everything the existing government do but then take a completely different view when they take power ?.
So you any policy you suggest or oppose in 14 years of opposition should be automatically implemented or reversed in government, regardless of changing circumstances?
 


nevergoagain

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Jul 28, 2005
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He signed a pledge promising to work towards compensation in 2022 and his work and pensions minister had a photo call with the campaign group, that's much more recent history than 14 years.
 




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