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Koran burning day ?







Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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This so called mosque, that isn't actually a mosque, isn't even on Ground Zero either. And frankly there must be official mosques all over New York, which people attend on a daily basis, but nobody suggests they're an insult to the memory of the dead.

It wasn't just Christians who died in the 9/11 attacks, but Muslims, Jews and probably some David Icke style religious cult members along the way too.
 


Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
America is on the verge (next 100 years) of fragmenting into inderpendat states. We are seeing the beginings of this. 'White America' is also terrified of the emergance of 'black and hespanic' political power.

I will bounce this in 100 years time.
 


hart's shirt

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
11,076
Kitbag in Dubai
Someone who sticks a book on a bonfire is just an idiot.

Ok - he'll do instead.

"Put him somewhere in the middle, but remember to leave some space at the top..."

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Trufflehound

Re-enfranchised
Aug 5, 2003
14,126
The democratic and free EU
'...and PRAYER ROOMS...''

But no its not a mosque... :laugh:

I have a room in my house I use for spiritual contemplation at least once a day. In fact, I've just returned from there after a little quiet communing with my inner self.





And yes, I did wash my hands.






And no, it's not a mosque either.
 




keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
'US lawmakers including Republican Representative Peter King of New York and independent US Senator Joseph Lieberman have sought evaluation of the sources of funding for the project, a 13-story glass and metal building that will house a swimming pool, daycare, lecture hall, and PRAYER ROOMS''

But no its not a mosque... :laugh:

Every hospital in England has a prayer room does that mean they're all churches?
 




Tesco in Disguise

Where do we go from here?
Jul 5, 2003
3,930
Wienerville
Nope, someone doesn't get forced to commit violence, they choose to.

correct. there's no excuse for mindless vilence.

frankly, i don't care what you do with the koran. use it for toilet paper if you want to. i hold it up with the same regard as other nonsense religious texts. but you have to remember, a lot of muslims are mental. it doesn't help that the faith is prevalent in the poorest areas of the world, but you KNOW they're going to go nuts. be the bigger man.

"what we have in our power to do, we have in our power not to do." - aristotle.
 




Jim D

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Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
I have a room in my house I use for spiritual contemplation at least once a day. In fact, I've just returned from there after a little quiet communing with my inner self.





And yes, I did wash my hands.






And no, it's not a mosque either.


I should hope so - you'd have to wash your feet too if it was.
 












GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,259
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
Rightly or wrongly this person is perfectly entitled under US law to burn a book, or even several regardless of title. I believe it is also not illegal in this country.

What I find objectionable is that we are being held to ransom, and are being cowtowed into submission by those that fear the consequences.
We do not give in to blackmail in the west, at least at a governmental level, although there are obviously many individuals who would like to see our rights and freedoms suppressed just because we are threatened with violence and death should we excercise them.
There were many even in this country that advocated appeasement inthe past, and that is what it would be if we were to forcibly stop an individual from doing something that is not illegal.
Where would it end ?
We should never allow our freedoms and rights, gained after many centuries of sacrifice, to be taken away or prohibited because we fear the actions of others.
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
What I find objectionable is that we are being held to ransom

I don't think we are being held to ransom. This attention seeker is not being prohibited from burning the Koran, but just because something is legal, it does not make it morally or ethically defensible.

Presumably you would also defend the right of Wendy Lewis, the classy bird who urinated on the Cenotaph the other week?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...woman-urinated-war-memorial-escapes-jail.html
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
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Worthing
Every hospital in England has a prayer room does that mean they're all churches?


Its the New Yorkers and the many families of the 9/11 victims you need to convince, not me.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,504
Worthing
I don't think we are being held to ransom. This attention seeker is not being prohibited from burning the Koran, but just because something is legal, it does not make it morally or ethically defensible.

Presumably you would also defend the right of Wendy Lewis, the classy bird who urinated on the Cenotaph the other week?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...woman-urinated-war-memorial-escapes-jail.html


But that is most definetly AGAINST the law though isn`t it El Pres.
 


GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,259
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
I don't think we are being held to ransom. This attention seeker is not being prohibited from burning the Koran, but just because something is legal, it does not make it morally or ethically defensible.

It may or may not be morally or ethically defensible, but it is legal.

What I object to is not the defensibility of the action, but those that suggest that he shouldn't do it otherwise we/they/someone will riot and start killing people.

We are indeed being held to ransom. The price is surrender of our legal civil freedoms in return for not causing trouble/rioting/killing, in other words extortion and bullying. Some may just think of it as taking the easy option for a quiet life, but as I said where will it end ?
We should not be bullied into submission by threats by anyone.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
It may or may not be morally or ethically defensible, but it is legal.

What I object to is not the defensibility of the action, but those that suggest that he shouldn't do it otherwise we/they/someone will riot and start killing people.

We are indeed being held to ransom. The price is surrender of our legal civil freedoms in return for not causing trouble/rioting/killing, in other words extortion and bullying. Some may just think of it as taking the easy option for a quiet life, but as I said where will it end ?
We should not be bullied into submission by threats by anyone.
I think most of us agree on your point regarding hard earned freedom.

However, this bloke is going to burn the Koran without thought for thousands of his OWN countrymen fighting in Afghanistan (and their families back at home) as a result of a policy formed by two successive democratically elected American governments.
 


Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
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May 8, 2007
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Wasn't there a law passed in the UK a few years ago about inciting religious hatred? Would that make it illegal in this country? Or is this law just for people that do it against specific people?
 


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