[Politics] Joe Biden

[Stat Brother]

The best two candidates America has to offer their electorate.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I was wondering when the inevitable 'dirt on Biden' story would surface.

 

[larus]

I was wondering when the inevitable 'dirt on Biden' story would surface.

Does that make it not true?

There’s also lots of stuff going around that the whole Russiagate investigation was a complete fabrication, started by the Clinton campaign and supported by those who didn’t want Trump as president.

The problem is, it’s impossible to know WTF is the truth anymore.

Politics and politicians on all sides are f***ing pathetic.

Also, the biggest problem is that people want to attach slurs/labels anyone who they disagree with. There is no tolerance anymore for reasoned debate. And social media is the worst place for this - keyboard warriors throwing insults which they would not do in person.

For example, even on here ‘conservative’ posters are accused of being racist, thick, selfish cvnts etc.

I’ve virtually given up posting on here as it’s become a much less friendly place over the last few years.

 

[knocky1]

It's really odd that people think that the black community hate Trump:



If there was evidence of this being the case I would probably be critical of Trump too.

Proud Boy. In wiv da hood. If a couple of Black people like him he must be ok?

 

[vagabond]

b.w.2 says sign him up

 

[Mellotron]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...et-son-Hunters-Ukrainian-energy-contacts.html

Joe Biden DENIES meeting his son's Ukrainian business partner despite 'thank you for opportunity to meet your father' email found on laptop - as Giuliani claims he has 40,000 emails and MORE 'compromising' Hunter 'sex and drugs' photos

Email cache raises new claims about Hunter Biden's dealings with Ukrainian firm
He apparently introduced Joe Biden to an executive at gas company Burisma
Biden would later pressure Ukraine to fire prosecutor investigating the firm
Prosecutor was fired amid concerns which were shared by other countries
Stash of files was disclosed by Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani
The Senate Homeland Security Committee says it has been contacted by the 'whistleblower' and is looking into the matter

Genuinely the best they have?! Superb.

Love the use of the word whistleblower. I don’t think they know what that word means. They saw it used against Trump and thought they’d give it a go. Bless.

 

[Eeyore]

Who doesn't want Biden to beat Trump ?

Try the American public in November.. Plus millions in the UK and around the globe who are NOT left leaning. After all the bollox with BLM in the US recently watch Trump destroy Biden like Boris did to Corbyn. The silent majority will have there turn when it really matters. Wait and see.

A clear majority of folk in the UK are centrists and more left leaning than they realise. The entire social and administrative system in the UK is underpinned with a soft form of socialism- and most Conservative voters would be very annoyed if that changed. The difference is more how the economics of the country work. Most don't fully support the idea of only co-operatives and mutuals so we have a mixed economy. Very few disagree with universal healthcare, social security, fully funded public and social services, stronger tax burden on the wealthy etc- soft socialist ideals.

We haven't had a right wing government since Thatcher, and there were a lot of places that even she wouldn't go. No right wing party combination has secured more than 50% of the vote at a GE since, I think, the 50s. I think Thatcher managed 44%.

America is a bit different. I don't think British folk, whether identifying as Conservative or otherwise would appreciate their system of governance. But the Trump dislike thing is more about character. A Republican president doesn't bother me. Trump does.

 

[Stat Brother]

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Loving this reply

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[Blue3]

It doesn't matter who is "in charge", over a long enough timeline the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. If the President at the time isn't facilitating that, he goes. Simple as that.

I agree all the Americans I have known have had a very diffrent view of what a successful government should be providing and it hinges solely on a growing economy and its effect upon personal wealth, nice people that most of them are a more inward looking self serving nation is hard to find

 

[KeithDublin]

Does that make it not true?

There’s also lots of stuff going around that the whole Russiagate investigation was a complete fabrication, started by the Clinton campaign and supported by those who didn’t want Trump as president.

The problem is, it’s impossible to know WTF is the truth anymore.

Politics and politicians on all sides are f***ing pathetic.

Also, the biggest problem is that people want to attach slurs/labels anyone who they disagree with. There is no tolerance anymore for reasoned debate. And social media is the worst place for this - keyboard warriors throwing insults which they would not do in person.

For example, even on here ‘conservative’ posters are accused of being racist, thick, selfish cvnts etc.

I’ve virtually given up posting on here as it’s become a much less friendly place over the last few years.

Honestly, you can **** off with your 'both sides' shit. Biden certainly isn't great, but he hasn't tried to undermine democracy, he's not a racist who tries to win the support and votes of racists and white supremacists, he's never encouraged violence. I have friends who are tories, I have friends who voted Brexit, I have friends who are old school republicans. I fundamentally disagree with them, but I can empathise with their viewpoints. Hoever, I could never be friends with a Trump supporter, if you, after 4 years, still support him, you are ****ing scum.

 

[larus]

Honestly, you can **** off with your 'both sides' shit. Biden certainly isn't great, but he hasn't tried to undermine democracy, he's not a racist who tries to win the support and votes of racists and white supremacists, he's never encouraged violence. I have friends who are tories, I have friends who voted Brexit, I have friends who are old school republicans. I fundamentally disagree with them, but I can empathise with their viewpoints. Hoever, I could never be friends with a Trump supporter, if you, after 4 years, still support him, you are ****ing scum.

Oh dear - sounds like it’s time for your meds. You must be a real gammon - seems like you’re bursting a blood vessel.
It also appears that you don’t have the mental acumen to read and understand someones posts. I’ll assume your outburst is a reflection of your IQ.

You have no idea about me, my opinions or thoughts on Trump/Biden. I think they are both very poor candidates. However, I am not so blinkered as many to think that everything that is said about someone is true.

Trump has many faults so there’s no reason to lie about him. Biden is a sleaze-bag/pervert who is senile. Trump is a narcissist, but I don’t think he’s a racist. There’s lots of clips on YouTube of Black Americans who call him a friend, but I guess they are also f***ing scum in your opinion.

 

[KeithDublin]

Oh dear - sounds like it’s time for your meds. You must be a real gammon - seems like you’re bursting a blood vessel.
It also appears that you don’t have the mental acumen to read and understand someones posts. I’ll assume your outburst is a reflection of your IQ.

You have no idea about me, my opinions or thoughts on Trump/Biden. I think they are both very poor candidates. However, I am not so blinkered as many to think that everything that is said about someone is true.

Trump has many faults so there’s no reason to lie about him. Biden is a sleaze-bag/pervert who is senile. Trump is a narcissist, but I don’t think he’s a racist. There’s lots of clips on YouTube of Black Americans who call him a friend, but I guess they are also f***ing scum in your opinion.

My post doesn't once assume anything about you. My use of 'you' in the last sentence was a general 'you' and not aimed at you (although I can see how it could be read that way).

There are no lies in my post regarding Trump, and if you don't think he's racist despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I don't know what to tell you.

And yes, any black person who supports Trump is scum too

 

[clapham_gull]

Trump is a narcissist, but I don’t think he’s a racist.

There is ample evidence out there that the family organisation probably was, specifically towards black people renting apartments.

Is Trump racist ? No idea.

But was is very clear is that he knows he has the "racist" vote and will actively pander to the far right to attract them.

 

[KeithDublin]

There is ample evidence out there that the family organisation probably was, specifically towards black people renting apartments.

Is Trump racist ? No idea.

But was is very clear is that he knows he has the "racist" vote and will actively pander to the far right to attract them.

There are many examples of Trump being racist - The central park five for one. But you are spot on about Trump pandering to the far right. I would argue that it would be impossible to do this, without being racist yourself though. Maybe just a total lack of morals? (sorry, arguing with myself now)

 

[fruitnveg]

I miss the days when whatever side of the debate you were on, there was an implicit understanding that you wanted the best for your country. Disagreements simply stemmed from how one should run it. Fast forward to 2020 and now i'm scum with no room for any debate on the matter, because of opinions. What a lovely world we live in.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Honestly, you can **** off with your 'both sides' shit. Biden certainly isn't great, but he hasn't tried to undermine democracy, he's not a racist who tries to win the support and votes of racists and white supremacists, he's never encouraged violence. I have friends who are tories, I have friends who voted Brexit, I have friends who are old school republicans. I fundamentally disagree with them, but I can empathise with their viewpoints. Hoever, I could never be friends with a Trump supporter, if you, after 4 years, still support him, you are ****ing scum.

You sure you know anything about Biden?

He was part of an administration that started 7 wars. Never encouraged violence my arse.

He has shown his old school racism though his 40 years of being a politician and policy maker.

The fact he said you're not black if you don't vote for me shows that he views black democrats as simple minded fools that should know their place and do as the white Democrats say.

Trump has been in power 4 years, Biden 40+.

A rational person would be able to step back and work out who has had far more far more influence on how America is today in 2020.

Trump can be a piece of shit, but so too can Biden.


There's two parties in the Libertarians and the Greens that people can also vote for.

Instead of encouraging people to vote blue or red maybe people should be taking up other third party options.

Even then the Democrats try to shame anyone who might consider not voting for them but a third party.

Look at how the Democrats turned on anyone who decided they would vote Greens instead of Dems.

They were blamed for Trump winning and not because their own party was so corrupt people turned away from them in droves.

 

[KeithDublin]

You sure you know anything about Biden?

He was part of an administration that started 7 wars. Never encouraged violence my arse.

He has shown his old school racism though his 40 years of being a politician and policy maker.

The fact he said you're not black if you don't vote for me shows that he views black democrats as simple minded fools that should know their place and do as the white Democrats say.

Trump has been in power 4 years, Biden 40+.

A rational person would be able to step back and work out who has had far more far more influence on how America is today in 2020.

Trump can be a piece of shit, but so too can Biden.


There's two parties in the Libertarians and the Greens that people can also vote for.

Instead of encouraging people to vote blue or red maybe people should be taking up other third party options.

Even then the Democrats try to shame anyone who might consider not voting for them but a third party.

Look at how the Democrats turned on anyone who decided they would vote Greens instead of Dems.

They were blamed for Trump winning and not because their own party was so corrupt people turned away from them in droves.

You've proven yourself to be wrong about nearly everything, since you started posting on this board. Most recently spreading the right wing lies of Project Veritas.

I'm not going to respond to you (again) for the same reason that I wouldn't have a political discussion with the weird bloke, who sits on his own in the pub, nursing a pot of carlton draught, stinking of piss.

 

[drew]

You sure you know anything about Biden?

He was part of an administration that started 7 wars. Never encouraged violence my arse.

He has shown his old school racism though his 40 years of being a politician and policy maker.

The fact he said you're not black if you don't vote for me shows that he views black democrats as simple minded fools that should know their place and do as the white Democrats say.

Trump has been in power 4 years, Biden 40+.

A rational person would be able to step back and work out who has had far more far more influence on how America is today in 2020.

Trump can be a piece of shit, but so too can Biden.


There's two parties in the Libertarians and the Greens that people can also vote for.

Instead of encouraging people to vote blue or red maybe people should be taking up other third party options.

Even then the Democrats try to shame anyone who might consider not voting for them but a third party.

Look at how the Democrats turned on anyone who decided they would vote Greens instead of Dems.

They were blamed for Trump winning and not because their own party was so corrupt people turned away from them in droves.

Exactly how has Biden been in 'power' for 40plus years? The closest he got to the top job was as VP.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Biggums is a strange one. He hates all politicians but he's obsessed with politics.

He agrees that Trump is a c**t but still desperately tries to devalue any comment that is negative about him. Always with whataboutism.

Never with a positive comment about Trump or a denial of what he's said and done (who could).

He scathingly hates the Democratic party but he offers no other option than "why don't they all vote Green or Libertarian?"

Knowing that the answer is "because they will never win and ANYONE is better than Trump".

Come on TB. You've posted so many times supporting Trump. Why is it so difficult to admit that you actually love the racist, misogynistic, kiddy fiddling, bankrupt, Russian controlled, orange, comb over fake shit gangster who doesn't give a flying **** about anyone other than himself and is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in America?

Oh. I see.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

You've proven yourself to be wrong about nearly everything, since you started posting on this board. Most recently spreading the right wing lies of Project Veritas.

I'm not going to respond to you (again) for the same reason that I wouldn't have a political discussion with the weird bloke, who sits on his own in the pub, nursing a pot of carlton draught, stinking of piss.

Thanks for the laugh.

You're the kind of easily duped dolt who political parties rely on to keep them in power.

It's funny how an issue you consider right win lies was also brought up by Democrat Senator Tulsi Gabbard.

This is how people like you spread disinformation and stupid about the place.