[Politics] Joe Biden

[Tyrone Biggums]

Biggums is a strange one. He hates all politicians but he's obsessed with politics.

He agrees that Trump is a c**t but still desperately tries to devalue any comment that is negative about him. Always with whataboutism.

Never with a positive comment about Trump or a denial of what he's said and done (who could).

He scathingly hates the Democratic party but he offers no other option than "why don't they all vote Green or Libertarian?"

Knowing that the answer is "because they will never win and ANYONE is better than Trump".

Come on TB. You've posted so many times supporting Trump. Why is it so difficult to admit that you actually love the racist, misogynistic, kiddy fiddling, bankrupt, Russian controlled, orange, comb over fake shit gangster who doesn't give a flying **** about anyone other than himself and is personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in America?

Oh. I see.

See you haven't been paying enough attention.

My biggest thing is anti-intervention in other nations. This warmongering shit has to stop. Stay the **** out of other countries.

Trump can be a ****, but if he doesn't start any wars or conflicts around the world then **** I'd rather have him in power than some warmongering **** like Biden and his profiteering pals.


The fact you bring up Russia shows how easily duped people are even with everything laid out plainly before them.

You truly think a narcissist like Trump that listens to no one would pander to anyone else? Especially another nations leader? Come on man, you can't truly believe that Democrat garbage can you?

I mean you've obviously got TDS the way you're carrying on.

 

[Juan Albion]

Thanks for the laugh.

You're the kind of easily duped dolt who political parties rely on to keep them in power.

It's funny how an issue you consider right win lies was also brought up by Democrat Senator Tulsi Gabbard.

This is how people like you spread disinformation and stupid about the place.

Tulsi Gabbard has certainly supported more rightwing issues in the past.

 

[Juan Albion]

You truly think a narcissist like Trump that listens to no one would pander to anyone else? Especially another nations leader? Come on man, you can't truly believe that Democrat garbage can you?

I mean you've obviously got TDS the way you're carrying on.

Yup, Trump would pander to anyone if there was something in it for him. Or if he stood to lose. Anyone that's followed the last four years can see there is a huge gap in the garbage he's been spewing, and it is Putin-shaped. Clearly the Russians have something on him, even if it's not a pee tape, there's no other logical explanation for his silence on Russia.

Oh, and "TDS"? Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you spout that nonsense?

 

[LlcoolJ]

See you haven't been paying enough attention.

My biggest thing is anti-intervention in other nations. This warmongering shit has to stop. Stay the **** out of other countries.

Trump can be a ****, but if he doesn't start any wars or conflicts around the world then **** I'd rather have him in power than some warmongering **** like Biden and his profiteering pals.


The fact you bring up Russia shows how easily duped people are even with everything laid out plainly before them.

You truly think a narcissist like Trump that listens to no one would pander to anyone else? Especially another nations leader? Come on man, you can't truly believe that Democrat garbage can you?

I mean you've obviously got TDS the way you're carrying on.

You're living in a black and white world where "nations" and wars are the biggest deal. That's always happened and it's NEVER going to stop. Whoever is in charge in the USA, the wars will happen, the black ops will continue etc etc. You know this! It's about MONEY.

So, with that backdrop, that you can do absolutely nothing about, how about just looking after your own people, like with healthcare, a woman's right to be treated as a human, plus those who might have skin of a different colour having the same chances in life as those with pink (or orange) skin. You know, the basic principles of a civilised society that Trump is systematically destroying?

I'd trust pretty much anyone on the planet to do a better job for THEIR people than Donald Trump has been doing in the USA.

Your "biggest thing" is window dressing because you'd prefer a hideous individual who only cares about himself to be in such a position of power.

It's really not complicated. And I've no idea what TDS is but I guess it's a term proliferated on right wing forums such as our dear departed Looney used to frequent with his army of 14 year old followers.....

****ing sad mate.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Exactly how has Biden been in 'power' for 40plus years? The closest he got to the top job was as VP.

Because he's had hands in things that have caused huge negative impacts on US society.

Listen to how he talks about "The Biden Crime Bill" in 93. This is the Bill that saw a huge increase in incarcerations and made the industrial prison complex a thing giving out huge sums of money to build more jails. This had a hugely negative impact on the black communities which has lead to a lot of the issues in 2020.




People go on about Trump and white supremacists. Biden was mentored and had relationships with Dixiecrat Senators like James O. Eastland and Herman Talmadge, both racist segregationists. Go look them up.

You don't have to be the President to have huge influence, Senators create bills all the time that get passed.


Career Politicians are the ones who have the biggest impact on a nations policies because they have the most support and power.

 

[Pevenseagull]

The irony o f Trump people questioning Biden's mental acuity is intense.

Person, woman, man, camera, tv.

which proooverd that he had the greatest mynd of any presidident of all the preserdents EVRER.

So grate, so yung and very: very;, grate. the most gratess

grayter than awl the uvers

and n incredable leeder

branes? the biggest bested branes

peeps, pussys, pussys, mirrors and foxes

 

[Pevenseagull]

that country is so ****ed, they think John Kasich is a moderate.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

You're living in a black and white world where "nations" and wars are the biggest deal. That's always happened and it's NEVER going to stop. Whoever is in charge in the USA, the wars will happen, the black ops will continue etc etc. You know this! It's about MONEY.

Why can't it stop?

We've just gotten through four years of a US President where no nations were invaded. I'll take that for a start.

So why can't that momentum and mindset going forward and make that the norm?

Yes it's all about the money. Eisenhower warned us of this back in the 50's. There are politicians on both sides though who are for non-intervention and would gladly work together to make it happen.

So, with that backdrop, that you can do absolutely nothing about, how about just looking after your own people, like with healthcare, a woman's right to be treated as a human, plus those who might have skin of a different colour having the same chances in life as those with pink (or orange) skin. You know, the basic principles of a civilised society that Trump is systematically destroying?

I don't believe nothing can be done. It will just take time.

You do realise that it was a Biden policy that has lead to so many black males ending up in the prison system? And and to your point, it was about money.

They handed out huge sums to build more jails. Jails that make a lot of money when they are filled with as many people as possible. If there's a war complex, there's a prison complex.

I know you'll overlook or ignore this but when you talk about things that impacted black lives Biden has been far worse for black communities than Trump has. So you can't pretend you care about civility when you just brush off Biden's impact.

I'd trust pretty much anyone on the planet to do a better job for THEIR people than Donald Trump has been doing in the USA.

Your "biggest thing" is window dressing because you'd prefer a hideous individual who only cares about himself to be in such a position of power.

It's really not complicated. And I've no idea what TDS is but I guess it's a term proliferated on right wing forums such as our dear departed Looney used to frequent with his army of 14 year old followers.....

****ing sad mate.

No what's ****ing sad is when people on here think Biden is better yet anyone who has read up on the guy knows his true character and the negative impact he's had.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is used by all kinds of people who lose their shit over Trump and ignore information even when it's presented by non-Trump people who actually spent some time researching things.

I'd be interested to know where you get all your information from? I always link where I get mine from. None of which comes from garbage like Fox, CNN, MSNBC.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Yup, Trump would pander to anyone if there was something in it for him. Or if he stood to lose. Anyone that's followed the last four years can see there is a huge gap in the garbage he's been spewing, and it is Putin-shaped. Clearly the Russians have something on him, even if it's not a pee tape, there's no other logical explanation for his silence on Russia.

Oh, and "TDS"? Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you spout that nonsense?

Why would he pander to a nation he thinks is below the US?

Maybe it's because you're in Europe you think Russia is more powerful than it really is on the world stage. They have no power outside of their region and very little importance to the US.

Trump really just doesn't give a **** about Russia, you do.

China is the only threat to the US. Russia is no threat at all.


I get it, people only take those people who confirm their confirmation bias seriously. Doesn't make them right, just makes you give them a pass even if they provide zero information to support their POV.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Tulsi Gabbard has certainly supported more rightwing issues in the past.

Tulsi is a centrist. She's not going to shit on people just because they don't support everything she does.

Andrew Yang is another. Both are from what I see politicians who are far less divisive than many of their counterparts.

They can be centre left but also support a centre right position. Just as a centre right person could support a centre left position.

This is how bills are created and passed, by these politicians who work with the other side effectively.

This is the problem with today's media. They don't give any attention to the moderates from both sides.

They focus on the extremes.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Why can't it stop?

We've just gotten through four years of a US President where no nations were invaded. I'll take that for a start.

So why can't that momentum and mindset going forward and make that the norm?

Yes it's all about the money. Eisenhower warned us of this back in the 50's. There are politicians on both sides though who are for non-intervention and would gladly work together to make it happen.




I don't believe nothing can be done. It will just take time.

You do realise that it was a Biden policy that has lead to so many black males ending up in the prison system? And and to your point, it was about money.

They handed out huge sums to build more jails. Jails that make a lot of money when they are filled with as many people as possible. If there's a war complex, there's a prison complex.

I know you'll overlook or ignore this but when you talk about things that impacted black lives Biden has been far worse for black communities than Trump has. So you can't pretend you care about civility when you just brush off Biden's impact.




No what's ****ing sad is when people on here think Biden is better yet anyone who has read up on the guy knows his true character and the negative impact he's had.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is used by all kinds of people who lose their shit over Trump and ignore information even when it's presented by non-Trump people who actually spent some time researching things.

I'd be interested to know where you get all your information from? I always link where I get mine from. None of which comes from garbage like Fox, CNN, MSNBC.

Not youtube. And certainly not American news stations whichever way they lean.

Yes, the majority of American politicians and those who work for them are only after feathering their own nests. That will not change.

But you did not answer my points. Biden has never been President FFS (Oh he was a senator and he did this....). Trump did some horrific things when he wasn't President.

Let me be clear. I blame the Democrats as much as I blame Labour for putting up shithouse candidates vs pure evil. Both did that and both failed and the Dems may well fail again for the same reason.

But you're beyond help if you think that Trump will make America or indeed the World a better place.

Your position is entrenched, you love him, that's OK. Enjoy your MAGA hat. Go to a rally (if they have them for him in Tassie).

TDS [emoji23] You really have proved that you know absolutely nothing.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

But you did not answer my points. Biden has never been President FFS (Oh he was a senator and he did this....). Trump did some horrific things when he wasn't President.

I did answer your question. You don't have to be President to have a negative impact on people.

I provided an example of something Biden did that's arguably had far more negative impact on black people than anything Trump has done.

Discuss that point. Provide info on where you get your information from. I'm open to finding new sources for information.

Let me be clear. I blame the Democrats as much as I blame Labour for putting up shithouse candidates vs pure evil. Both did that and both failed and the Dems may well fail again for the same reason.

But you're beyond help if you think that Trump will make America or indeed the World a better place.

Your position is entrenched, you love him, that's OK. Enjoy your MAGA hat. Go to a rally (if they have them for him in Tassie).

TDS [emoji23] You really have proved that you know absolutely nothing.

I don't think Trump will make the world a better place. But I do know he'll be gone after four years and nobody will have learned a thing because the biggest and worst corrupt powers have been exposed by his Presidency yet people were so focused on his clown behaviour they haven't been paying attention to the true power brokers and their corrupt systems.

You don't really hold the Democrats to the same standards though. That you just think the Democrats put up poor candidates says it all. You're literally going into bat for a political party that has a history that rivals the worst organisations in the history of the world. If you are so concerned about evil, then look at which Party oversaw THE most evil practices in US history.

You're having a go at me because I think the Democrat Party history rivals the Nazis for evilness. How does that work?


I don't even live in Tassie. So who knows nothing?

 

[carlzeiss]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

Jack Dorsey APOLOGIZES after Trump threatened to remove Facebook and Twitter protections for blocking story about Joe Biden meeting son Hunter's Ukraine business partners - as Kayleigh McEnany's Twitter account is locked for sharing it

 

[darkwolf666]

I did answer your question. You don't have to be President to have a negative impact on people.

I provided an example of something Biden did that's arguably had far more negative impact on black people than anything Trump has done.

Discuss that point. Provide info on where you get your information from. I'm open to finding new sources for information.



I don't think Trump will make the world a better place. But I do know he'll be gone after four years and nobody will have learned a thing because the biggest and worst corrupt powers have been exposed by his Presidency yet people were so focused on his clown behaviour they haven't been paying attention to the true power brokers and their corrupt systems.

You don't really hold the Democrats to the same standards though. That you just think the Democrats put up poor candidates says it all. You're literally going into bat for a political party that has a history that rivals the worst organisations in the history of the world. If you are so concerned about evil, then look at which Party oversaw THE most evil practices in US history.

You're having a go at me because I think the Democrat Party history rivals the Nazis for evilness. How does that work?


I don't even live in Tassie. So who knows nothing?

Go on, Humour me and please explain what the Democrat Party has done on a par to the Holocaust...

 

[LlcoolJ]

I did answer your question. You don't have to be President to have a negative impact on people.

I provided an example of something Biden did that's arguably had far more negative impact on black people than anything Trump has done.

Discuss that point. Provide info on where you get your information from. I'm open to finding new sources for information.



I don't think Trump will make the world a better place. But I do know he'll be gone after four years and nobody will have learned a thing because the biggest and worst corrupt powers have been exposed by his Presidency yet people were so focused on his clown behaviour they haven't been paying attention to the true power brokers and their corrupt systems.

You don't really hold the Democrats to the same standards though. That you just think the Democrats put up poor candidates says it all. You're literally going into bat for a political party that has a history that rivals the worst organisations in the history of the world. If you are so concerned about evil, then look at which Party oversaw THE most evil practices in US history.

You're having a go at me because I think the Democrat Party history rivals the Nazis for evilness. How does that work?


I don't even live in Tassie. So who knows nothing?

Your choice of location preference. Mine is correct.

I think we're on the same page about American globalisation and the evil shit they've done.

Just on a different book when it comes to Donald "pedophile" Trump. Defending him is defending the indefensible. There is first hand account of the man raping 12 year old girls. You say you're up on facts? Trump Model Agency isn't difficult to google, despite him taking down lots of sites.

 

[NooBHA]

You do realise that it was a Biden policy that has lead to so many black males ending up in the prison system? And and to your point, it was about money.

They handed out huge sums to build more jails. Jails that make a lot of money when they are filled with as many people as possible. If there's a war complex, there's a prison complex.

I know you'll overlook or ignore this but when you talk about things that impacted black lives Biden has been far worse for black communities than Trump has. So you can't pretend you care about civility when you just brush off Biden's impact.




No what's ****ing sad is when people on here think Biden is better yet anyone who has read up on the guy knows his true character and the negative impact he's had.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is used by all kinds of people who lose their shit over Trump and ignore information even when it's presented by non-Trump people MSNBC.

Now that's a piece of Misinformation if ever there was one.

It was the " Though on Crime Policies of the 80s and early 90s which were the Catalyst for the increase in Prison Building in the US and which has led to "Mass Incarceration of black and Brown people in America where thousands on people began to be sentenced to long Prison Sentences for minor Drugs Possession Charges. Thus leaving young black boys growing up with absent father's for many years and so a cycle which continues to this very day.

Barack Obama set up the " Sentencing Reform Commission " and co-opted Brian Stevenson from the Equal Justice Initiative " on to that Commission and a lot of progress was being made in recent years.

What did Donald Trump do as soon as he was Elected. He simply pulled the Plug on its funding and to this day it sits in Limbo.

Anything which keeps Black and Brown people in the lower echelons of Society is what Trump stands for and anyone who says any different needs to remove their "White Supremist Blinkers"

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Go on, Humour me and please explain what the Democrat Party has done on a par to the Holocaust...

Well all of the Slave Plantation owners were Democrats and wielded enormous political power.

The Confederate Army was the Army of the Democrats.

The KKK was founded by a Democrat. Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Then there's the destruction of Reconstruction in the years after the war ended and the slaves were freed. Go and read about here...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1873-colfax-massacre-crippled-reconstruction-180958746/

There there's Jim Crow Laws, insidious and truly evil, the construct of the Southern Democrats that were responsible for segregation and all the dehumanising things that came with it.

How many people died or suffered due to all of the things listed above?

 

[darkwolf666]

Well all of the Slave Plantation owners were Democrats and wielded enormous political power.

The Confederate Army was the Army of the Democrats.

The KKK was founded by a Democrat. Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Then there's the destruction of Reconstruction in the years after the war ended and the slaves were freed. Go and read about here...

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1873-colfax-massacre-crippled-reconstruction-180958746/

There there's Jim Crow Laws, insidious and truly evil, the construct of the Southern Democrats that were responsible for segregation and all the dehumanising things that came with it.

How many people died or suffered due to all of the things listed above?

And in the last 100 years?

Once upon a time the slave trade was acceptable all around the world.

At no time in history has it been acceptable to round up people by birth, stick them in gas chambers and burn their remains...

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Now that's a piece of Misinformation if ever there was one.

It was the " Though on Crime Policies of the 80s and early 90s which were the Catalyst for the increase in Prison Building in the US and which has led to "Mass Incarceration of black and Brown people in America where thousands on people began to be sentenced to long Prison Sentences for minor Drugs Possession Charges. Thus leaving young black boys growing up with absent father's for many years and so a cycle which continues to this very day.

Barack Obama set up the " Sentencing Reform Commission " and co-opted Brian Stevenson from the Equal Justice Initiative " on to that Commission and a lot of progress was being made in recent years.

What did Donald Trump do as soon as he was Elected. He simply pulled the Plug on its funding and to this day it sits in Limbo.

Anything which keeps Black and Brown people in the lower echelons of Society is what Trump stands for and anyone who says any different needs to remove their "White Supremist Blinkers"

That's the Democrats platform as well you realise?

How else would you explain away so many of these areas of poverty and lack of any hope being Democrat strongholds for a long time?
This is why black people get screwed over, they vote for the one party. The party that takes them for granted and doesn't have to do shit for them to earn their vote.


Trump enacted the First Step Act in answer to your question.

This is a Centre of Justice reform groups views on it. Some good things, some things need a lot more done.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-first-step-act-and-whats-happening-it

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

And in the last 100 years?

Once upon a time the slave trade was acceptable all around the world.

At no time in history has it been acceptable to round up people by birth, stick them in gas chambers and burn their remains...

The last of Jim Crow laws still existed until 1968 when the Fair Housing act was introduced.

Jim Crow laws created ‘slavery by another name’

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...y/jim-crow-laws-created-slavery-another-name/

So yes, in the last 100 years.

Remember this guy was a Democrat Senator until 1964. He eventually switched parties, but many Democrats like him never did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

This POS was to the end.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace