Jake Robinson's comments in the Argus

[fenech1elphick1]

I am not sure it is a bad attitude. He does not run around like Revell, but unlike Revell he gets into decent positions.

i disagree i think if you want to win you can do both wayne rooney runs all over the place and still gets goals its not an excuse he should stand up for himself on the pitch

 

[Barrel of Fun]

fair comment but its hard to take wen you see murrays awfull attitude

Awful attitude!? Dear lord. How have you come to that conclusion?

 

[fenech1elphick1]

Awful attitude!? Dear lord. How have you come to that conclusion?

he just doesent look like he wants to win dont you see it have you got eyes

 

[Gareth24]

Not when it comes to people still banging on about a player who has played over 100 games without much return, yet for some reason people still see potential.

I think the 'rise' as you put it has well and truely been taken by those already writing off Murray and Thomson, but then this is NSC, so I should expect it.

I just think murray is lazy and doesnt want it as much as jake.

If jake played upfront with forster consistently he could score 15-20 goals.

Jake may have played 100 games + but it is very in and out so not a lot of time to get a rythm and also when hart played up front with zamora we didnt slate hart for not scoring alot because he gave us the work rate. like jake.

Im not writing murray or thomson of at all. i think murray has it in him just needs to work harder.

 

[Seasider78]

I just think murray is lazy and doesnt want it as much as jake.

If jake played upfront with forster consistently he could score 15-20 goals.

Jake may have played 100 games + but it is very in and out so not a lot of time to get a rythm and also when hart played up front with zamora we didnt slate hart for not scoring alot because he gave us the work rate. like jake.

Im not writing murray or thomson of at all. i think murray has it in him just needs to work harder.

Murray is not lazy simply a different type of player. Look at Berbatov at Spurs do you see him chasing down the back four and running back to make tackles no you don't as it is not his natural game.

Jake does not look the same player when he starts and tends to get found out across 90 minutes. Murray can hold the ball up has a good first touch and brings other players into the game with flick ons etc. Just look how many more goals Forster has scrored with Murray alongside him.

Give the lad time he will come good

 

[SeagullRic]

i think he should start on saturday.

I think its easy to say he is to lightweight and gets knocked of the ball to easilly. He is learning to play a new position he doesnt give he has learnt to defend better and id say he has started to get a bit more stuck in,

As a striker i always liked him. He gives us something different he makes great runs off the ball when he is up front and he can score goals. I think if he got a fair chance with forster they could be a great partnership.

People talk about his goal to game ratio like he always plays up fron. he doesnt so its a bit harsh.

Id rather have someone in their who loves the club and will graft rather than murray who doesnt seem like he gives a shit. Whether they are lightweight or not

And that is why you are not a football manager

 

[SeagullRic]

well said her her murray bench jake starts please y cant wilkins see jakes raw talent

Hi Jake's Mum

 

[Gareth24]

Murray is not lazy simply a different type of player. Look at Berbatov at Spurs do you see him chasing down the back four and running back to make tackles no you don't as it is not his natural game.

Jake does not look the same player when he starts and tends to get found out across 90 minutes. Murray can hold the ball up has a good first touch and brings other players into the game with flick ons etc. Just look how many more goals Forster has scrored with Murray alongside him.

Give the lad time he will come good

f***ing hell murray to berbatov!!!!

Brighton arent good enough to be able to afford the luxury of lazy players. He has ability but i dont wanna lazy player in my team when their is someone who will chase everything down. id rather have hart up front still then murray becase he gave everything and forced so many errors by chasing down and pulling defenders out of position. Thats when the zamora or forsters of this world capitalise on that hard work by punishing errors.

people say jake is predictable but murray is as predictable. He stands their he doesnt make runs in behind he doesnt chase down he doesnt challenge for the loose ball.

Jake may not be physical but he is learning to put his foot in a little more and is still young enough to learn more about the physical side,

 

[Gareth24]

And that is why you are not a football manager

did liverpool drop owen for karl heinz riedle when he was getting knocked of the ball. no cos owne had pace and made good runs. granted its a different situation but jake makes good runs and murray doesnt run unless its into an offside position.

 

[SeagullRic]

f***ing hell murray to berbatov!!!!

Brighton arent good enough to be able to afford the luxury of lazy players. He has ability but i dont wanna lazy player in my team when their is someone who will chase everything down. id rather have hart up front still then murray becase he gave everything and forced so many errors by chasing down and pulling defenders out of position. Thats when the zamora or forsters of this world capitalise on that hard work by punishing errors.

people say jake is predictable but murray is as predictable. He stands their he doesnt make runs in behind he doesnt chase down he doesnt challenge for the loose ball.

Jake may not be physical but he is learning to put his foot in a little more and is still young enough to learn more about the physical side,[/QU

I'm absoloutely certain that if Robinson and Murray started the same amount of games as each other then Murray would score more. Would like to see them as a partnership though.

 

[SeagullRic]

did liverpool drop owen for karl heinz riedle when he was getting knocked of the ball. no cos owne had pace and made good runs. granted its a different situation but jake makes good runs and murray doesnt run unless its into an offside position.

I'm afraid to say there's more to being a striker than just making good runs. Murray also makes good runs and once he learns to time them right I think he'll score many one-on-ones. Murrays better at holding it up, better touch, better finishing and better in the air. Jake's got better pace. Robinson his one of my favourite players but I'd rather have Murray up front than him.

 

[dougdeep]

well said her her murray bench jake starts please y cant wilkins see jakes raw talent

I give in, what does it say?

 

[Seasider78]

f***ing hell murray to berbatov!!!!

Brighton arent good enough to be able to afford the luxury of lazy players. He has ability but i dont wanna lazy player in my team when their is someone who will chase everything down. id rather have hart up front still then murray becase he gave everything and forced so many errors by chasing down and pulling defenders out of position. Thats when the zamora or forsters of this world capitalise on that hard work by punishing errors.

people say jake is predictable but murray is as predictable. He stands their he doesnt make runs in behind he doesnt chase down he doesnt challenge for the loose ball.

Jake may not be physical but he is learning to put his foot in a little more and is still young enough to learn more about the physical side,

I am not saying Murray is as good as Berbatov just acknowledging that players without fantastic work rates do exist.

You seem to grade a players ability on the amount of running about they do and its hard to take you seriously when you say you would rather have Hart up front.

What difference does it make how much Murray runs if he pops up and puts a few away?

Robinson however good he is has shown nothing to say he will be a prolific striker at this level and Murray offers far more in the game.

Would like to see Robinson on the wing though as that suits his natural game.

 

[John Byrne]

I just think murray is lazy and doesnt want it as much as jake.

If jake played upfront with forster consistently he could score 15-20 goals.

Jake may have played 100 games + but it is very in and out so not a lot of time to get a rythm and also when hart played up front with zamora we didnt slate hart for not scoring alot because he gave us the work rate. like jake.

Im not writing murray or thomson of at all. i think murray has it in him just needs to work harder.

You are on another planet....jake couldn't score 5 goals in a season if he played every week.

 

[Silent Bob]

You are on another planet....jake couldn't score 5 goals in a season if he played every week.

Except this season. And last season.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

God, people say i post shit.

Robinson has played 100 games and is too weak, bottles tackles - bla bla f***ing bla.
He's a good little player and will get a chance when the other two up top need a break, or when Wilkins decides to drop the shitty Diamond and play with wingers. He's not a 20 goal a season man, but i don't see too many teams who have a reserve striker capable of 20 goals a season!!

Murray - good strikers aren't necessarily 'workhorses'. Do you see Van Nistelrooy covering acres of space? No, but he still gets the goals. Murray is in the team because he scores goal AND creates things for others, not because he shuts down the opposition keeper.

NEITHER of them are 'not good enough' - they are just completely different players who can be used in different situations. Robinson might deserve a chance, but not at the expense of Murray. It's Forster (yep, our best player) who's looked knackered for the last 6 games or so, and understandably so.

 

[Seasider78]

God, people say i post shit.

Robinson has played 100 games and is too weak, bottles tackles - bla bla f***ing bla.
He's a good little player and will get a chance when the other two up top need a break, or when Wilkins decides to drop the shitty Diamond and play with wingers. He's not a 20 goal a season man, but i don't see too many teams who have a reserve striker capable of 20 goals a season!!

Murray - good strikers aren't necessarily 'workhorses'. Do you see Van Nistelrooy covering acres of space? No, but he still gets the goals. Murray is in the team because he scores goal AND creates things for others, not because he shuts down the opposition keeper.

NEITHER of them are 'not good enough' - they are just completely different players who can be used in different situations. Robinson might deserve a chance, but not at the expense of Murray. It's Forster (yep, our best player) who's looked knackered for the last 6 games or so, and understandably so.

 

[Row Z Creased Shirt]

God, people say i post shit.

Robinson has played 100 games and is too weak, bottles tackles - bla bla f***ing bla.
He's a good little player and will get a chance when the other two up top need a break, or when Wilkins decides to drop the shitty Diamond and play with wingers. He's not a 20 goal a season man, but i don't see too many teams who have a reserve striker capable of 20 goals a season!!

Murray - good strikers aren't necessarily 'workhorses'. Do you see Van Nistelrooy covering acres of space? No, but he still gets the goals. Murray is in the team because he scores goal AND creates things for others, not because he shuts down the opposition keeper.

NEITHER of them are 'not good enough' - they are just completely different players who can be used in different situations. Robinson might deserve a chance, but not at the expense of Murray. It's Forster (yep, our best player) who's looked knackered for the last 6 games or so, and understandably so.

Well that's it. Hell has frozen over. I agree with every word of that. Unbelievable. For once WW, spot on.

 

[El Presidente]

Nice one WW!

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

God, people say i post shit.

Robinson has played 100 games and is too weak, bottles tackles - bla bla f***ing bla.
He's a good little player and will get a chance when the other two up top need a break, or when Wilkins decides to drop the shitty Diamond and play with wingers. He's not a 20 goal a season man, but i don't see too many teams who have a reserve striker capable of 20 goals a season!!

Murray - good strikers aren't necessarily 'workhorses'. Do you see Van Nistelrooy covering acres of space? No, but he still gets the goals. Murray is in the team because he scores goal AND creates things for others, not because he shuts down the opposition keeper.

NEITHER of them are 'not good enough' - they are just completely different players who can be used in different situations. Robinson might deserve a chance, but not at the expense of Murray. It's Forster (yep, our best player) who's looked knackered for the last 6 games or so, and understandably so.

Come on, own up. Who has hacked his account?

I do agree in part with this but I will add that Murray seems to lack self belief sometimes. Too often we've seen balls played through that if he had been busting a gut, believing that he would get there first then he would have got them, and had a great chance to score, or more likely get brought down for a penalty. Instead what we see is hesitation and the chance is gone. I agree that he has a better first touch than Revell and that he gets into some great positions, but he also needs to work on believing that he can get there first in 50/50s.

Robinson has come on again this season. He doesn't bottle as many tackles now and has locked dangerous when he comes on against tired defences. I'd like to see him start wide, but that would probably mean dropping Westlake or Coxy and I just can't see that happening. While Forster does look a bit tired, so many games in a short time, and having to do all the chasing down because Murray "isn't that sort of player" he is still far and away our best chance of goals so all the time he can run he must start.