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Is the stadium heading for big problems







Gilliver's Travels

Peripatetic
Jul 5, 2003
2,922
Brighton Marina Village
It's not the fact it's busy, it's the fact that there were TWO tills open out of a possible SIX, with people queuing out the door and eventually giving up and going to cause more train congestion, why is this?... I'm not disputing we have the best after match facilities but by god the service is SHIT.
But only here and there. Yesterday I visited the Away stand, East Brasserie, East Concourse and North Stand Concourse between 5.00 and 5.30. No queues anywhere, everyone having a good time. Especially the 'Boro fans who were really impressed that our bars stayed open. At the Riverside, they told me, everyone gets slung out after the whistle.

While obviously there will be isolated problems as you describe, you can always just move to another bar. Why do people "give up" when the Amex has so many other places for socialising post-match?
 


worthingseagull123

Well-known member
May 5, 2012
2,688
The thing that gets me is the nob-heads who park in the gym car park (Virgin Active).

Some fans think they are obviously too good for public transport to the game.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,299
Firstly, this is not a moan about the Amex but more an observation about the stadiums challenges.

So, this midweek transport plan is a bloody nightmare, the club seems to think its working out but it's not. Fans are leaving really early now to get a bus/train before any rush. People are literally sprinting through the concourses and outside midweek. It's becoming hard to avoid a head on collision sometimes.

The station at Falmer is just too small and with trains becoming more and more under strain how on earth will this work in 10/15 years time.

Has our blind faith in getting our amazing new home led us into a potential travel nightmare in the future?

I also fear that if the on field stuff does not progress us, the really high costs in running and stewarding in and around the stadium could really sting us.

With the club so heavily reliant on the trains/buses how can it be improved? We have already lost a traditional Boxing day game because it and I am sure it won't be last time this will have to happen

It's only a myth of how bad the trains, etc are that is continually spouted by those few that expect that they can leave after the final whistle, stroll down to the train station and get on the first train without having to wait. Those who keep saying its bad are making people believe its bad and feel that they have to leave early when the truth is, they don't have to.

In fact, i have found that it is very easy to get away after the game, even in midweek. I have left the south end of the WSU shortly after the final whistle and after i had clapped the team off the pitch, slowly walked down to the station and joined what was a long queue which stretched over the bridge, but within 15 minutes i was on the 3rd train to leave for Lewes.

All the needless complaining about it is getting rather dull now.
 


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Firstly, this is not a moan about the Amex but more an observation about the stadiums challenges.

So, this midweek transport plan is a bloody nightmare, the club seems to think its working out but it's not. Fans are leaving really early now to get a bus/train before any rush. People are literally sprinting through the concourses and outside midweek. It's becoming hard to avoid a head on collision sometimes.

The station at Falmer is just too small and with trains becoming more and more under strain how on earth will this work in 10/15 years time.

Has our blind faith in getting our amazing new home led us into a potential travel nightmare in the future?

I also fear that if the on field stuff does not progress us, the really high costs in running and stewarding in and around the stadium could really sting us.

With the club so heavily reliant on the trains/buses how can it be improved? We have already lost a traditional Boxing day game because it and I am sure it won't be last time this will have to happen

Blimey ! You sound like some poor disillusioned soul who works at some office factory like L&G or somewhere.

Just enjoy yourself. It's not all doom & gloom.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
It's only a myth of how bad the trains, etc are that is continually spouted by those few that expect that they can leave after the final whistle, stroll down to the train station and get on the first train without having to wait. Those who keep saying its bad are making people believe its bad and feel that they have to leave early when the truth is, they don't have to.

In fact, i have found that it is very easy to get away after the game, even in midweek. I have left the south end of the WSU shortly after the final whistle and after i had clapped the team off the pitch, slowly walked down to the station and joined what was a long queue which stretched over the bridge, but within 15 minutes i was on the 3rd train to leave for Lewes.

All the needless complaining about it is getting rather dull now.

I did notice last night, whilst I was walking over the bridge, that there were long queues to get into Brighton via the train (which was late) but I could also see a 25 bendy bus outside the station which was half empty waiting at the bus stop. Surely it would have been quicker for some of those waiting for a train, to continue to the bus stop to get an alternative way into Brighton.
 


D

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I did notice last night, whilst I was walking over the bridge, that there were long queues to get into Brighton via the train (which was late) but I could also see a 25 bendy bus outside the station which was half empty waiting at the bus stop. Surely it would have been quicker for some of those waiting for a train, to continue to the bus stop to get an alternative way into Brighton.

Yes but people just don't think like that do they? I imagine 70% of those in the queue have no idea where the 25 goes.
 






Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Perhaps they are members and as such are fully entitled to park there.

Not if they are not using the facilities.

I think we are incredibly lucky to have such levels of transport a stones throw away.

It's taken me yonks to get away from somewhere like the Maejdski or the Emirates or Upton Park or Wembley.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
It'll all be fine in 5 years time when we have 12000 rattling around in there.
 


Jack Daniels

New member
Aug 25, 2011
1,213
Buggers Hole
The funniest thing is many grounds are half an hour or more walking distance from the nearest station. Blackpool for example, which last year I turned into a 20 minuet uphill sprint to get the 5.20 back to Manchester.

The Amex resides right next to a station. All you have to do is stand and wait your turn to get on the train. Why the mad rush to get home anyway?

I understand if you have come a long distance and don't expect to be back much before 10pm with a prompt getaway.

But for those going back to Brighton/hove/hassocks/burgess hill/Haywards Heath/lewes does it really matter if your home at 6 or 7. It's a day out at the end of the day.

You don't go to the cinema/theatre/gig or whatever and suddenly decide to rush home without seeing the end. So why do it at football?

It really is strange behaviour. People seem to be more preoccupied with leaving than they are with the game itself.

Begs the question. Why come in the first place?

As for leaving on 75-80 mins. I thinks your just wasting your time and money really.
 








Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,299
The funniest thing is many grounds are half an hour or more walking distance from the nearest station. Blackpool for example, which last year I turned into a 20 minuet uphill sprint to get the 5.20 back to Manchester.

The Amex resides right next to a station. All you have to do is stand and wait your turn to get on the train. Why the mad rush to get home anyway?

I understand if you have come a long distance and don't expect to be back much before 10pm with a prompt getaway.

But for those going back to Brighton/hove/hassocks/burgess hill/Haywards Heath/lewes does it really matter if your home at 6 or 7. It's a day out at the end of the day.

You don't go to the cinema/theatre/gig or whatever and suddenly decide to rush home without seeing the end. So why do it at football?

It really is strange behaviour. People seem to be more preoccupied with leaving than they are with the game itself.

Begs the question. Why come in the first place?

As for leaving on 75-80 mins. I thinks your just wasting your time and money really.

I think the myth of a transport problem has led to this feeling that some have to leave early to avoid a non existent problem but there isn't really a need to. I think that this myth came about because of one game early last season (i think it was a cup match) when they announced that there wasn't the full match day train services but everyone still got away fairly quickly and there were still plenty of trains running without long waits between them.

You can understand families with young kids wanting to make a quick get-a-way, especially from a midweek game in term time and this is probably why the east stand tends to empty more before the final whistle but to say that is down to poor transport as the initial poster implies just isn't the case.

Maybe the moaners would be happier if they had to walk to Moulsecoomb train station first before boarding a service towards Brighton or Lewes rather than waiting for a shorter amount of time than if they had to walk that distance from Falmer.

You get the impression some people just arn't happy unless they have something to complain about and if there isn't anything, they exaggerate something to make it seem like its bad or far worse than it really is so they can moan for the sake of it.
 




withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
After yesterday's game I had ample time to stroll down to the shop,buy my Wolves ticket and still be on the Falmer platform in time for the trains to break down.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,366
Seems pretty clear that the public transport capacity has not kept pace with the increased ground capacity. OK, its about as efficient as its ever likely to be, but when you add on an extra 6K seats, then seems to me that adding more car parking is not how things should be panning out. Should be adding more buses and train capacity shirley? ???
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
The train for yesterdays match started off from Brighton full but sill stopped at London Rd and Moulescombe and picked up more passengers who crammed onto the train. Would it not be possible to make all the trains from 1.30 to 2.30 firs stop Falmer. To accomodate the people getting on at the other stations they could join the train on its route to Brighton and then stay on for the journey back to Falmer. Yes it would take them 10 mins longer to get to the stadium but the train would leave Brighton with a safe number of passengers. What is the problem to doing this?
 


Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
It's not the fact it's busy, it's the fact that there were TWO tills open out of a possible SIX, with people queuing out the door and eventually giving up and going to cause more train congestion, why is this?... I'm not disputing we have the best after match facilities but by god the service is SHIT.

But you can go to any counter after the game.
 




jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,579
I don't understand the rush to get out - especially if we've won! Fair enough at Withers, but now we have a state of the art stadium we have been waiting for - savour every second!
 


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