Is now the time for us to find out why Wilkins was sacked?

[Tooting Gull]

Let's have a go. Dean Wilkins was essentially sacked because the board, and especially the chairman, felt they could no longer trust him. That confidence was lost due to a couple of incidents where he didn't hold the line you would expect a company employee to follow with the players.

Once the trust has gone, it's only a matter of time - and then the board could try to rationalise their choice of new man and kid themselves about pretty much anything, notably that appointing Adams would bring the crowds flocking back. Which was clearly mad.

Wilkins' finishing position was therefore irrelevant. He might well have gone even if we'd gone up.

I'm looking for at least a seven out of 10 for that effort.

 

[The Large One]

Let's have a go. Dean Wilkins was essentially sacked because the board, and especially the chairman, felt they could no longer trust him. That confidence was lost due to a couple of incidents where he didn't hold the line you would expect a company employee to follow with the players.

Once the trust has gone, it's only a matter of time - and then the board could try to rationalise their choice of new man and kid themselves about pretty much anything, notably that appointing Adams would bring the crowds flocking back. Which was clearly mad.

Wilkins' finishing position was therefore irrelevant. He might well have gone even if we'd gone up.

I'm looking for at least a seven out of 10 for that effort.

He would have gone. Dick Knight said this at the Fans' Forum.

 

[Tooting Gull]

He would have gone. Dick Knight said this at the Fans' Forum.

OK, knock half a mark off for recycling months-old news.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

ask bhadebs

I never had you down as a comedy genius, empire.

 

[BensGrandad]

If DK came out and issued a statement saying why there would still be some saying 'what a load of old bolloxs that is, it isnt true he didnt do that or say that' so what is he point lets just let it die and hopefully move on.

 

[Questions]

If we were in the top 3 I bet the debate over the sacking of Dean Wilkins would be ... maybe not totally put to bed by now.... but certainly kissed goodnight and on its way up the stairs with the hot milk by now.

Its because Adams is making such a cock up of it all that the Wilkins issue will not go away. I`ve stated before that I think Knight acted like a right so and so over it but I`m not that naive to think he is any different to any of the other chairman out there. There was a time when I thought he was better than that.

Lokki 7 has it spot on over the delays as well.

 

[Mr Burns]

When Micky came back the idea was too keep Dean and Ian but due to the way that the chairman handled everything two very loyal and good coachs left - Micky did not want Dean or Ian to leave

I have to pick you up on that one.

That is simply not true. We may have been told that, but Micky Adams did not want Dean Wilkins, and certainly did not want Ian Chapman at the club.

 

[Hoops Seagull]

I have to pick you up on that one.

That is simply not true. We may have been told that, but Micky Adams did not want Dean Wilkins, and certainly did not want Ian Chapman at the club.

I would have to pick you up on that one i was actually told this by Ian himself

 

[hitony]

Might take a bit of pressure off Micky?

You must be very bored.

I have not read through all the pages as I can't be arsed)

 

[BigGully]

I have to pick you up on that one.

That is simply not true. We may have been told that, but Micky Adams did not want Dean Wilkins, and certainly did not want Ian Chapman at the club.

We might share the same frustrations at Wilkins dismissal, but this and some of your previous posts, simply are not accurate.

The turn of events were quite simple really that MA was to accept both Wilkins and Chapman and Adams seemed happy with that situation at the time, even meeting with Wilkins to discuss their concerns.

Chapman and Wilkins had no real desire to work with him as they both felt, Wilkins especially that he had been let down gravely by the club.

I am sure that Adams might say today, that he didnt really want them anyway, however it was Wilkins and Chapmans decision not to take the positions offered.

And who can blame them

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Its because Adams is making such a cock up of it all that the Wilkins issue will not go away. I`ve stated before that I think Knight acted like a right so and so over it but I`m not that naive to think he is any different to any of the other chairman out there. There was a time when I thought he was better than that.

I would say he is a lot better than a lot of the other chairman around - he loves his Club for example - but liable to make misjudgements like any of the others around.

 

[Knotty]

I am amazed that so many people think they know the truth...

 

[backson]

I am amazed that so many people think they know the truth...

And so many different truths, as well!!

 

[gjh1971]

He would have gone. Dick Knight said this at the Fans' Forum.

It was very easy for Knight to state that bearing in mind we didnt go up, it's a hypothetical question. There would have been a mutiny if Wilkins had got us promoted and then sacked.

 

[The Large One]

It was very easy for Knight to state that bearing in mind we didnt go up, it's a hypothetical question. There would have been a mutiny if Wilkins had got us promoted and then sacked.

Actually, to be 100% accurate, the question asked was 'Would Dean have been sacked even if we'd made the play-offs?' To which the answer was 'yes'.

If we'd have gone up, Gawd knows, and I agree - there probably would have been mutiny.

 

[SICKASAGULL]

I am with cjd on this one,Dk cant afford the type of player to get us out of Div 1, so no chance of signing Championship standard players

 

[Icy Gull]

If DK came out and issued a statement saying why there would still be some saying 'what a load of old bolloxs that is, it isnt true he didnt do that or say that' so what is he point lets just let it die and hopefully move on.

I have to say I'm impressed with your current backing of board and manager as I had you down as a bit anti the set up at the club from posts over the years. Anyway if a comment came from the club it would be made to sound like they'd done something positive however shit Adams turns out to be. If, however MA turns it all around DK will be on the pitch letting us know what a great move bringing back MA was, if it stays pearshaped we won't be seeing or hearing him at all imo..so I'm not expecting to hear a dicky bird.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

I am with cjd on this one,Dk cant afford the type of player to get us out of Div 1, so no chance of signing Championship standard players

I'm always puzzled by assertions that Dick Knight is responsible for funding player purchases at BHA on his own. He doesn't own the Club, although he is the largest shareholder (approx 23%) and Club Chairman (ie spokesman for the Board of Management), so why does anyone think it's all down to him individually?
We're not a private company like Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle etc where one or two easily indentified individuals own the entire shooting match, BHA is a limited company with a number of individual shareholders and, unless we're borrowing from the banks, it's from ALL of these people that additional funding would be sought, not just DK.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think regardless of how Adams performs Dick Knight will always have this hanging over him until such time as he comes clean and explains the reason for the sacking.

Dean Wilkins has the sympathies of at least 80% of all Albion fans and has been a loyal servant for years. If DK thought that by hiring Adams we'd all move on and forget about Wilkins he's mistaken.

 

[BigGully]

I'm always puzzled by assertions that Dick Knight is responsible for funding player purchases at BHA on his own. He doesn't own the Club, although he is the largest shareholder (approx 23%) and Club Chairman (ie spokesman for the Board of Management), so why does anyone think it's all down to him individually?
We're not a private company like Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Newcastle etc where one or two easily indentified individuals own the entire shooting match, BHA is a limited company with a number of individual shareholders and, unless we're borrowing from the banks, it's from ALL of these people that additional funding would be sought, not just DK.

I agree to a point, maybe one of DK great attributes is how he continues to guide the board and Tony Bloom in particular.

The financial power doesnt lie with DK however it seems that decisions are driven primarily with him.

Very clever !!