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[Albion] Info for AS Roma fans for Thursday



METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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Roma fans, be aware that you can do anything you like in the UK without fear our authorities and police will take action. They are paralysed by incompetence and the fear of being labelled as discriminatory. Use this to your full advantage. No one will intervene. They’re also totally overrun and demoralised and a bit ‘soft’ by your standards eg no guns, and if you were ever shot by a special arms unit it would be that officers fault not yours and they can expect a lengthy sentence.

You will however be observed by video. Expect this rather than actual intervention. Even so, be aware all footage taken is never actually used, especially if you dress in obligatory black clothing including a mask. You’ll never be identified and so nothing will ever come of it, despite threats of dawn raids and arrests days after using such (useless therefore) ‘evidence’. It’ll never happen. CCTV is much overrated. No one keeps it and it’s always too grainy. Much like used cat litter.

So bring your flares, smoke bombs, stand on seats, chant facist and homophobic songs; fly your inflammatory banners and obviously stab away as you do. All will be tolerated (although you should expect a few tuts). Our public order and safety authorities will be far too busy focused on the threat of smuggled bottle tops and inconveniencing home fans in general to bother with your more confrontational anti social antics. Instead you should receive priority transport (if you don’t, just shove way to front, no one will do anything) Finally, do remember if arriving early and doing some shopping in town pre match, you are not expected to pay in the UK. Just take what you like, no one will stop you as they can’t and also the authorities don’t exist to come and arrest you. If you are ever stopped, claim assault and sue the proprietor. Again, our legal system will find in your favour. You are not expected equally to pay for your defence. That’s on us too.

Enjoy your trip and don’t forget, what’s ours is most definitely yours, aka take the piss and help yourselves! Ciao Bella!
You forgot to add " do please feel to rush the turnstiles as our police will stand aside and expect the Albion staff on minimum wage to intervene ".
 




Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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It doesn't happen generally to rugby fans (but it may well one day) because I spent a damn good look at them when I stayed over to Saturday and this is what I saw. They mostly tend to be much older folk, in their fifties and sixties - many are in couples. They tend to be very well-heeled folk who are very risk-averse, ie, they can afford to take taxis everywhere, to the bars and restaurants they frequent. They are exactly the kind of people who wouldn't take any risks late at night even in Britain, never mind a foreign city with a known issue of late night criminality. I know rugby fans, I'm one myself, they are very conservative folk in whatever they do
Fair, I had a very different experience on the Friday night in Trastavere. Plenty taking risks, slaughtered and having a grand old carefree time. There was at least 10,000 of them there, comfortably more, I'd imagine and I'd actually go as far to say that the Scots were much more obvious targets than nearly all Albion fans that I saw were. Outside of the day of the game, there wasn't a blue and white stripe on show.

The attack was a one-off incident, and the fact is we'll never know whether the motivations for the attack were random or not. The fact is that it was in a different situation to matchday and is very unlikely to be repeated on Thursday night. As my original post stated, the frustration is that there aren't any different provisions in travel to stop any issues tomorrow night if they were to arise, when we had to adhere to them previously.
 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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When asked explicitly by @Commander

“Was it definitely Roma fans? Or more of a robbery than a football thing? Did they target you two specifically, do you think?”

@jackalbion said

“Well I don’t know they came from behind (careful now), and stabbed us both blindside. I don’t know what they looked like other than the foot in myface. 3 lacerations in the arse, and 2 in Andy.”

So we don’t know if it was football related, or they were targeted, unless I have missed something?

As I say, let’s try and keep things in perspective.
Yeah I still could not tell you if they were football fans, on various hooligan pages they’ve denied it, BUT it did have all the hallmarks of a football related attack. I expect these gangs operate under the pretence of football, but have very little to do with it. There’s every chance it could have been football related, and I do have a feeling that part of it was. Obviously my comments on here are because I am (understandably) slightly on edge, and nervous. I just don’t want anyone else getting hurt really, and I trust our police force to deal with the crowds. I’ll be getting the train as normal, as 90% of Roma fans are good people who support their team.
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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at home
Saw a group on Brighton seafront this afternoon whilst out for our daily constitutional. I didn’t think their unltras were arrivin* until tomorrow but they were shouting at people drinking in the seafront bars, alarming a few.


we took the pragmatic decision to turn around at the shelter bars and restaurants and walk back to hove as it looked a bit threatening.

but we are both pensioners and the Brighton boot boys were all at school so couldn’t protect us from these rampant Italians
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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Yeah I still could not tell you if they were football fans, on various hooligan pages they’ve denied it, BUT it did have all the hallmarks of a football related attack. I expect these gangs operate under the pretence of football, but have very little to do with it. There’s every chance it could have been football related, and I do have a feeling that part of it was. Obviously my comments on here are because I am (understandably) slightly on edge, and nervous. I just don’t want anyone else getting hurt really, and I trust our police force to deal with the crowds. I’ll be getting the train as normal, as 90% of Roma fans are good people who support their team.
To be fair, it does sound like a football related attack as I have seen England in Rome for the rugby with absolutely no issues at all.
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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To be fair, it does sound like a football related attack as I have seen England in Rome for the rugby with absolutely no issues at all.
Exactly what I said to London Irish. Never seems to happen at rugby.

The items taken seem to constitute trophies, not an organised street robbery gang.
 


timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
10,578
Sussex
To be fair, it does sound like a football related attack as I have seen England in Rome for the rugby with absolutely no issues at all.
Football related in as much that there was a football match on featuring an English team with supporters in a vulnerable position through drink (not necessarily drunk), unfamiliar location, time of night and in small groups possibly splitting up because of their hotel location. And the nature of their injuries.

Not football related in terms of the scum that committed the attack and the lack of security in the area. If you make a cowardly attack like that it is because you are scum, a coward, a criminal, someone who has little fear of injuring someone (or worse), probably uneducated with little hope in life or fear of being caught.

So a bit of both.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Yeah I still could not tell you if they were football fans, on various hooligan pages they’ve denied it, BUT it did have all the hallmarks of a football related attack. I expect these gangs operate under the pretence of football, but have very little to do with it. There’s every chance it could have been football related, and I do have a feeling that part of it was. Obviously my comments on here are because I am (understandably) slightly on edge, and nervous. I just don’t want anyone else getting hurt really, and I trust our police force to deal with the crowds. I’ll be getting the train as normal, as 90% of Roma fans are good people who support their team.
Apparently the Roma Ultra’s slash the buttocks and not stab them. All a bit weird although Stone Island at football is a sign of fair game lads so you may of been targeted.
 




Terry Connor

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Oct 21, 2022
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The authorities will definitely react if you fly a "Pope is a Pedo" banner..... allegedly.
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Ike and Tina Burner

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Mar 22, 2019
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Hooligan/Ultras news page just posted this. They may be out for trouble tommorow if they're sending photos in to be posted on there. They could also be harmless ultras to be fair, it's quite hard to judge what gets posted on there. But do be sensible tommorow irregardless.
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jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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Apparently the Roma Ultra’s slash the buttocks and not stab them. All a bit weird although Stone Island at football is a sign of fair game lads so you may of been targeted.
Yeah although my mates took the badges off the jumpers for that reason so who knows. I don’t have any stone island, I’m not that rich 😂.
 






Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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Hooligan/Ultras news page just posted this. They may be out for trouble tommorow if they're sending photos in to be posted on there. They could also be harmless ultras to be fair, it's quite hard to judge what gets posted on there. But do be sensible tommorow irregardless.
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Where the f**k do they think they're going to be able to get a drink from dressed like that? Do spoons really have a 'don't care' policy'? They do have a strict 'no under 18's after 7-7.30ish policy that is annoyingly adhered to in Brighton & London though.
 






Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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Yeah although my mates took the badges off the jumpers for that reason so who knows. I don’t have any stone island, I’m not that rich 😂.
This may seem a stupid question but why didn't they just wear something else rather than ruining stone island stuff by taking off the badges? :lolol:
 












mile oak

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May 21, 2023
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I think there could be trouble especially revenge from 'our fans' some people will use it as an excuse to attack the visiting fans, lets hope its under control and the police can prevent trouble.
 


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