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Perry Milkins

Just a quiet guy.
Aug 10, 2007
6,309
Ardingly
So you're going to just pick and choose which words of any given sentence you read, are you? Did you not see the phrase 'by those criteria alone' in the middle?

However, whilst in my PERSONAL view, there are obviously much better songs to choose from, the song you have mentioned is liked by very many more people than many of the songs amongst my own favourites. So, yes, it IS a good song.

Just as Leona Lewis CAN sing [despite me not liking her stuff] and Manchester United ARE a great football team [despite me hating them], etc.

and Croydon being a dump despite me living there.
 










Yeah, probably a bit old for you, I imagine.

?:bigwave:

No, being serious, she does a lot of work around here, so I see her around a bit, but every man I know thinks she's the biz.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
You need to move down to Brighton away from SJLM's lot, sir.

Feed the inner metrosexual and embrace your sensitive side.

A&F = Abercombie and Fitch. Top brand. Excellently tailored clothes. Very popular with the gayers. It is to FCUK what FCUK is to Next, if you get my drift.
 


Tesco in Disguise

Where do we go from here?
Jul 5, 2003
3,930
Wienerville
So you're going to just pick and choose which words of any given sentence you read, are you? Did you not see the phrase 'by those criteria alone' in the middle?

However, whilst in my PERSONAL view, there are obviously much better songs to choose from, the song you have mentioned is liked by very many more people than many of the songs amongst my own favourites. So, yes, it IS a good song.

Just as Leona Lewis CAN sing [despite me not liking her stuff] and Manchester United ARE a great football team [despite me hating them], etc.

sorry, i didn't mean to misquote you. but you are distorting the issue. ok, if art has a particular role (in your example, to sell advertising), then the most popular is certainly the best (assuming the advertiser doesn't care about who watches their adverts).

but, if there is no role for art to play and has nothing but it's own, intrinsic value, how do you distinguish between good and bad?
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,769
Chandlers Ford
sorry, i didn't mean to misquote you. but you are distorting the issue. ok, if art has a particular role (in your example, to sell advertising), then the most popular is certainly the best (assuming the advertiser doesn't care about who watches their adverts).

but, if there is no role for art to play and has nothing but it's own, intrinsic value, how do you distinguish between good and bad?


Would you like to discuss art?

Or are we discussing the merits of reality TV?
 






Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
"better" is not really a word that can be applied to art.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,769
Chandlers Ford
The answer to your question anyway, is that of course there is no 'good' or 'bad' art. The merit of any work of art is purely and squarely in the eye of the viewer. If I love it then it IS great [to me]. If the next guy comes along and hates it then it IS shit [to him.].

I know you will not agree with this but it is true. One set of splashes of paint on a canvas cannot technically be 'better' than another*, just appreciated by more or less people.

*Unless SPECIFIC criteria were set down prior to the creation of the works - for example to create a life-like likeness
 


























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