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[Football] IFAB Keeper Timewasting Experiment













rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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keeper doesn't pick up ball and keeps it at his feet, waits for opposition forward to move towards him, when close picks up ball, and runs across area, wait for ref to start five second countdown, at one drops ball to feet, waits for forward to advance and only then plays balls to defender or up field.

I understand this is from the Villa coaching manual for next season, there is a variant to the above. In phase 1 when picks up ball, the keeper runs very close to the forward then falls over, and while keeping hold of the ball screams out in obvious pain, and demands physio assistance.

Outcome, the new rule changes nothing.
This could be stopped immediately by requiring a keeper having on-field treatment to leave the pitch and not return within 30 seconds; the same rule which applies to outfield players. That would soon stop the feigned injury scenario.
 




Exilegull

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Mar 14, 2024
347
None of this explains why it doesn’t get enforced now when there are times the goalie clearly isn’t being impeded and is simply wasting time.

So often you’ll see them do it all game and take their yellow card happily in the 92nd minute.
Same as with incorrect throw ins impossible to enforce it at youth level so remains not enforced at top level as well. If a confused kid cant get ball away within 8 seconds because looking for team mates or just being nervous then you cant give indirect free kick against him just cruel and removing lot of fun. And so it doesn´t happen and then never happens
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
The biggest time waste in baseball was getting the pitcher to luzz the bloody ball.
Last season they introduced a 30 sec pitch clock.
A literal clock behind the batter counting down.

Now there are very few violations and games are 20-30 mins shorter.


This ain't rocket science.
A clock behind each goal.
4th official presses start and the job is done.
 






Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,225
Cumbria
keeper doesn't pick up ball and keeps it at his feet, waits for opposition forward to move towards him, when close picks up ball, and runs across area, wait for ref to start five second countdown, at one drops ball to feet, waits for forward to advance and only then plays balls to defender or up field.
We do this a fair bit to be fair.

A corner ............... From where?
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hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
62,759
Chandlers Ford
The biggest time waste in baseball was getting the pitcher to luzz the bloody ball.
Last season they introduced a 30 sec pitch clock.
A literal clock behind the batter counting down.

Now there are very few violations and games are 20-30 mins shorter.


This ain't rocket science.
A clock behind each goal.
4th official presses start and the job is done.
I like the idea but (as per post #20) the issue is that EMI MARTINEZ (or another keeper) will just waste time up until the official countdown is started. In fact, such a clock gives them absolute carte blanche to do so.
 




Nobby Nomates

Active member
Jul 8, 2003
160
Brighton
I'd suggest that instead of the keeper picking up the yellow card, it's given to the team captain. Gives the captain some responsibility (and incentive) to curb time-wasting. If the captain gets sent off, next booking goes to the new captain and so on....
 












Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,095
Brighton
Think the rules should also include something about opposition players having to leave the penalty area once the keeper has the ball under control in his hands. That would prevent players like Martinez at Villa using the excuse an opponent is preventing him from taking a kick.
If all the players left the area the keeper would go back to the goal line and put the ball down, thus wasting another 10 seconds knowing no opposition player would be close to him.
No, as mentioned, the current rules just need to be kept to. If a keeper falls down with the ball then add 4 seconds to allow him to get up. I think most refs can count to 10.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
12,062
If all the players left the area the keeper would go back to the goal line and put the ball down, thus wasting another 10 seconds knowing no opposition player would be close to him.
No, as mentioned, the current rules just need to be kept to. If a keeper falls down with the ball then add 4 seconds to allow him to get up. I think most refs can count to 10.
Leave a player on the edge of the box. If the keeper drops the ball at his feet the ball is back in play and the player can now close the keeper down.
 








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