How much do postman get a week after tax?

[the wanderbus]

I was a postman a fair few years ago,was taking home about £250 on a flat week,my mate takes home about £500 nowNot to bad for a posty+plus you get all these extras and you can let someone do your round for £40-50 cash if you want the day off

For a flat week ( no leaflets, no overtime) £250 a fair few years ago? It was only a few years ago that was a postmans gross in a week,even now that is only just below the take home pay. To take home £500 plus youd need to do 25-30 hours overtime a week at least.
Dont forget that the post office overtime rate is only around £8.50 an hour & once he's done 10 hours it drops to about £7.70 an hour.( less than the rate at which the standard 40 hours are paid)

 

[Eggmundo]

Good luck Stat Brother. I hope things get sorted out with the long term future of the employees in mind rather than a quick fix which seems to be the case nowadays.
Your points regarding "The Lifers" rings true at my place of work. You can see that where before we dominated the market and could relax safe in the knowledge that whatever we built would be sold quickly, with more and more competition coming in to the market it is imperative that we wake up and work smarter, otherwise before you know it the work will have dried up.
I can only speak for British manufacturing, not the public service sector, but complacency and arrogance is cringingly rife.

TIME FOR A KAIZEN!!!!

 

[John Byrne]

I think Royal Mail are complaining about this unfair competition because they still have to deliver the items from the contracts they lose. E.g TNT steal a contract from Royal Mail, lets say Amazon and then Royal Mail still have to deliver it and for a silly rate which they make no money from. The regulator makes them do this and they have no choice. This is where the problem is!

But from what i can make out its impossible for Royal Mail to compete with these other companies. If they modernise then they can reduce the work force and reduce their costs to compete.

The problem there is they want to change our (posties) hours and make us lose our early morning allowance and replace it with a poxy pay increase which doesn't even cover the money we lose. As well as all the other strings attached. We were also told we would receive some shares if we comply with the cut backs, they will be worth £800 in five years. (We were also told in the letter explaining this....these shares aren't real!!)

When the machines come in, which they will eventually we all know this, the work force will be trimmed down dramatically and Royal Mails aim is to have 60/70% of the work force on 18 hour week contracts and pay to match.

The machines will sort and road the walks all they will need are people to deliver it. Thats why the posties like myself are against the change because we know eventually it will mean no job.

The facts regarding what one postman earns to another is irrelevant...anyone can do overtime at any job to bump up their wages. The fact is a postman takes home roughly £265 a week if they deliver 3 leaflets a week.

 

[Stat Brother]

There speaks someone who can stay awake in 'Work Time Learning'

 

[sir albion]

For a flat week ( no leaflets, no overtime) £250 a fair few years ago? It was only a few years ago that was a postmans gross in a week,even now that is only just below the take home pay. To take home £500 plus youd need to do 25-30 hours overtime a week at least.
Dont forget that the post office overtime rate is only around £8.50 an hour & once he's done 10 hours it drops to about £7.70 an hour.( less than the rate at which the standard 40 hours are paid)

Yeah he does lots of overtime and also does loads of door to doorsyou know aswel as i do that you can fiddle loads of hours overtime.Yeah i took about £232 i think on a flat week,maybe i had a few door to doors with that

 

[Eggmundo]

The machines will sort and road the walks all they will need are people to deliver it. Thats why the posties like myself are against the change because we know eventually it will mean no job.

OK, so you run a company that employs 100 people and there is a machine that can do the work of 50 of them. It's expensive but in 5 years time you will recoup that initial cost and increase profits from that point. You would go for it wouldn't you.
My point is it is happening all over the country and there is nothing we can do!

 

[John Byrne]

There speaks someone who can stay awake in 'Work Time Learning'

LMAO

 

[sir albion]

Reading borough council pay 23k a year to a dustman

 

[Stat Brother]

OK, so you run a company that employs 100 people and there is a machine that can do the work of 50 of them. It's expensive but in 5 years time you will recoup that initial cost and increase profits from that point. You would go for it wouldn't you.
My point is it is happening all over the country and there is nothing we can do!

Deffo we know it's coming & such is life.
Unfortunately the current board are making short term proposals that are just plan wrong, most of which have already been mentioned.
The one thing they have in common is they smack of 'making a fast buck' from the front line postie & in return we will make you redundant.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

The argument about welcome to "The Real World" and " It was about time Royal Mail woke up to the competion" sticks in my gut a bit i am afraid. Royal Mail was the first Postal system in the world and has been the envy of many a country since day one. No-one is claiming it is perfect and does not need modernising but competion will not produce a better service.............from anyone. All it will do is lose the profit making area's of the Royal Mail to companies from abroad i.e Deutche Post......DHL....ect ect. None of these companies will, in the long run offer a better service, maybe cheaper, at times. Are these good arguments to slim down a company, lose jobs and create part time jobs for the remainding workers.
Its no wonder the indusrial action was voted for by Union members by 3-1. These are not actions of militants but loyal workers fearful for the direction the company seems to be taking. How would you like a pay rise which may you worse -off with prospects of less hours, less pay,or possible redundencies? Just to give sharholders of a "Rival" company prospect of easy pickings at our expense!!

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Oh and by the way..............Pay is not great...........The People who earn a lot on the P.O are the ones who live and sleep at the place. You have to do at least an extra days work to earn a "decent" wage. Those who earn more have very little sleep and work VERY unsociable hours!!

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Sadly when you work for the aging old hulking giant that is Royal Mail - you won't see a penny of it until the company modernises...Its a shame but its true. Sadly the union intervention in this one will only spell disaster. I'm not a huge union fan it has to be said, but there is no point in asking the old dog (Royal Mail) for more money, until it can do a few new tricks (faster, quicker, more efficiently) otherwise you're just taking money from a sinking ship...

Been there done that in a rather similar company....and they've just been sold for asset stripping! Hopefully you'll avoid that - but if you push them too far....

But i am afraid it is just not as simple as that tedebear, the unions are not the one who need to modernise here, The company, only the last two years have praised the workforce for helping to become more efficient, while the Business arm only 3 years ago made a disaster out of purchasing several foreign Logistic companies which made a huge loss rather than producing the golden fleece they predicted, coupled with the cost of an upgrade in the IT department the money that was taken from a "well afloat ship" was not down to the workforce, completely the opposite. Management have wasted Millions on non-cost effective folly's like Plasma screens for management/workforce interaction at £3500 a throw (some offices have several) We have had ours for several months now.......it has never been used and probably never will. I am afraid the management seemed to have lost the workers while having to swallow the prospect of lower wages while the top boy enjoys a bonus that is reportedly 7 figures!!

 

[Stat Brother]

Oh god don't get me started on the plasma tv's

 

[dougdeep]

I deliver to the sorting office at Crawley and it's a shambles.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Oh god don't get me started on the plasma tv's

C'mon tell me. I am a good listener

 

[Stat Brother]

We were due to have 2 put into the 'shop floor'. The sparky came & did the electrics, everything was ready.
Eventually 2 plasma screens arrived, matey fitted 1 no problems, went to fit the 2nd only to find his ladder wasn't long enough. So it had to go in the canteen.

And the 2, 40 inch samsung tv's, haven't worked since.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Money seemed no object on this little project did it SB? Sickenning

 

[John Byrne]

Yeah the plazmas are a joke...fitted months ago and never used...apparenty ours doesn't even work if we wanted it too.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Well i am off to bed............up at four........nighty night!! He he

 

[John Byrne]

lol lightweight....i'm up then too but its the weekend bud...gotta go for 11pm!! hehe