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How much do postman get a week after tax?
- Thread starter adrian29uk
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bhaexpress
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The Royal Mail at last have some competition.
Welcome to the real world!!
One of their competitors is TNT Express Worldwide who I worked for a while go. In the face of some stiff competition they were quite definitely the worst firm I have ever worked for. As a matter of fact I also worked for the Post Office a short while later and they stuck me as being a lot better than some firms I've worked for.
Nothing wrong with competition but like the railways for instance, they have shown that competition hasn't brought about much improvement.
Jeeeezz, give play a chance, let alone the Posties.
You must be hell to wait for a taxi, with.
BTW, anyone want to buy some cheap CD's
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,359
There might have been a strike on Friday, but here in BN1 we had a normal delivery on Saturday. Three cheers for the posties - and all the best with your strike action 
Eggmundo
U & I R listening to KAOS
- Jul 8, 2003
- 3,466
This is a song about the union, friends
How they f***ed you over and the way they bends
The rules to suit a special few
And you gets pooched every time the do
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Once upon a time the idea was good
If only theyd a done what they said they would
It aint no better, theys makin it worse
The labor movements got the mafia curse
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Dont be no fool, dont be no dope
Common sense is your only hope
When the union tells you its time to strike
Tell the motherfucker to take a hike
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
(repeats)
How they f***ed you over and the way they bends
The rules to suit a special few
And you gets pooched every time the do
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Once upon a time the idea was good
If only theyd a done what they said they would
It aint no better, theys makin it worse
The labor movements got the mafia curse
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Dont be no fool, dont be no dope
Common sense is your only hope
When the union tells you its time to strike
Tell the motherfucker to take a hike
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
(repeats)
bhaexpress
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Don't think you can compare unions in the US with here, there is wholesale illegality over there but not here. What some people might not know is that the majority of US States have little or no employee protection and you can lose your job for no reason at all with no recompense. This country is not in the same league as say Australia (unless you're a civil servant) where it seems murder is about the only justification for dismissal but it's a whole lot better than many Western countries and unions have a lot to do with that.
Mind you on the other hand I have recently been working with a number of ex GPO Phone Engineers and whilst BT is nothing like that now they do have an 'alternative' work ethic based on their union controlled past.
Mind you on the other hand I have recently been working with a number of ex GPO Phone Engineers and whilst BT is nothing like that now they do have an 'alternative' work ethic based on their union controlled past.
an 'alternative' work ethic based on their union controlled past.
That's a great phrase, and one I agree with.
I'm fairly new to postieing and come from it from a 'work' background.
There are certain practices that 'the lifers' use that would have me dispair if I was a boss. My concience certainly would never let me work with the same attitude.
But I still believe the management are very wrong with the current approach to modernising the business.
That's a great phrase, and one I agree with.
I'm fairly new to postieing and come from it from a 'work' background.
There are certain practices that 'the lifers' use that would have me dispair if I was a boss. My concience certainly would never let me work with the same attitude.
But I still believe the management are very wrong with the current approach to modernising the business.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,359
You are DAMN right to believe that. The Post Office top boys six-figure bonuses depend on them heaping misery on the posties below them and doing their damnest to make them jump through higher and higher hoops for less and less reward. BELIEVE it.
I think it needs to be modernised and I don't think you're disputing that (I think?) in what way do you think they're going about it wrong? (Keep in mind my information on the subject is coming not from the hard working front line ie posties, but from someone who works internally in finance) so I may be getting a completely different picture...
dougdeep
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I think thats the letter posted before dd, thanks though...what I don't understand is this "unfair competition" claim...Wouldn't mind someone explaining what that means as I haven't the foggiest really?
I think it needs to be modernised and I don't think you're disputing that (I think?) in what way do you think they're going about it wrong? (Keep in mind my information on the subject is coming not from the hard working front line ie posties, but from someone who works internally in finance) so I may be getting a completely different picture...
This reply from earlier pretty much sums it up.
The problem is that for all the years of monopoly succesive boards have done nothing with the profits made, not even pay into the pension fund.
So now competetion has come, hardly a surprise, RM is nowhere near ready to compete.
But the plans in place to combat this basically call for less front line staff, doing more work in less hours, for less money. Which in turn will generate larger % bonuses for the fat cats.
Hardly grounds for confidence.
Remember all the work 'lost' by Royal Mail is still being delivered by postmen.
Year on year we are delivering more post than ever, RM are just making less money on it.
On the busy days (Thurs Fri) I take 6 pouches out, 5 weighing approx 16kgs & the one I leave with has nearer 20kgs of post in it.
This reply from earlier pretty much sums it up.
The problem is that for all the years of monopoly succesive boards have done nothing with the profits made, not even pay into the pension fund.
So now competetion has come, hardly a surprise, RM is nowhere near ready to compete.
But the plans in place to combat this basically call for less front line staff, doing more work in less hours, for less money. Which in turn will generate larger % bonuses for the fat cats.
Hardly grounds for confidence.
Remember all the work 'lost' by Royal Mail is still being delivered by postmen.
Year on year we are delivering more post than ever, RM are just making less money on it.
On the busy days (Thurs Fri) I take 6 pouches out, 5 weighing approx 16kgs & the one I leave with has nearer 20kgs of post in it.
Ok I understand all that, but thats in the past - the fact that previous profits haven't been reinvested. But how do they get through it all now though? How do you modernise, AND increase salaries?
I still don't get the bit about unfair competition though?
You'll have to track down the originator of 'unfair competition', although the government regulator does treat RM tougher than the companies moving into the sector. It isn't an even playing field were everybody is governed by the same rules.
Re pay, I think very early on in this thread I said it was a shame the union weren't making more of the fact that this is not a 'pay' dispute. Certainly from my office if we were just offered 2.5% we would have been very happy, it's the strings attached that have a 'turkeys & Christmas' feel to them.
Yes, the modernising needs to come, & this is going to cost RM jobs. Some machinery on the continent can do an amazing amount of work (bulk sorting putting post in road order etc), but this all comes at a price. Which is probably why this machinery is nowhere to be seen and still won't change the fact that the post needs to be delivered.
So less people will be asked to do more work until such time is mordernisation arrives.
3 years ago we had massive changes within the office each round has approx 500 houses we cover between 5-10 miles a day, to increase this still further, change working hours etc will do nothing for the buisness but save short term cash, to make us look more profitable to respective buyers. Leading to the conclusion of fat cats getting fatter.
Re pay, I think very early on in this thread I said it was a shame the union weren't making more of the fact that this is not a 'pay' dispute. Certainly from my office if we were just offered 2.5% we would have been very happy, it's the strings attached that have a 'turkeys & Christmas' feel to them.
Yes, the modernising needs to come, & this is going to cost RM jobs. Some machinery on the continent can do an amazing amount of work (bulk sorting putting post in road order etc), but this all comes at a price. Which is probably why this machinery is nowhere to be seen and still won't change the fact that the post needs to be delivered.
So less people will be asked to do more work until such time is mordernisation arrives.
3 years ago we had massive changes within the office each round has approx 500 houses we cover between 5-10 miles a day, to increase this still further, change working hours etc will do nothing for the buisness but save short term cash, to make us look more profitable to respective buyers. Leading to the conclusion of fat cats getting fatter.
I see!! Thanks for that a bit clearer now...Interested in this unfair competition though - I'll get googling!!
I wish I could help you with that, it comes up time and again in our 'work time learning' sessions.
Unfortunately having a meeting in a warm office at 5:15 am is not condusive to remembering or for that matter staying awake. lol
Unfortunately having a meeting in a warm office at 5:15 am is not condusive to remembering or for that matter staying awake. lol
5.15am!! Bloody nora mate - yuck!!
Seriously though, being a postie I get up early, nice simple fact. If I couldn't manage that I wouldn't be a postie. Kind of like a pilot afraid of heights.
So I really love my job, I love being out early (people seem to be a lot nicer before about 10am), I love it when it's sunny, I love it when it's pi$$ing down, I love the snow, the hours suit me & my family life.
I don't have child care issues but those that do rely on finishing work at 1pm.
But so RM can save on our early shift allowance we won't be starting until gone 6 am so not finishing until 3-4 maybe even 5 pm.
We do the job because we get paid & the hours suit, so if the hours & joib changes without an increase in money what's the point in doing the job, certainly with any pride.
So I really love my job, I love being out early (people seem to be a lot nicer before about 10am), I love it when it's sunny, I love it when it's pi$$ing down, I love the snow, the hours suit me & my family life.
I don't have child care issues but those that do rely on finishing work at 1pm.
But so RM can save on our early shift allowance we won't be starting until gone 6 am so not finishing until 3-4 maybe even 5 pm.
We do the job because we get paid & the hours suit, so if the hours & joib changes without an increase in money what's the point in doing the job, certainly with any pride.
sir albion
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I was a postman a fair few years ago,was taking home about £250 on a flat week,my mate takes home about £500 nowNot to bad for a posty+plus you get all these extras and you can let someone do your round for £40-50 cash if you want the day off
Not to bad for a posty+plus you get all these extras and you can let someone do your round for £40-50 cash if you want the day off
Same with any job, if you want cash the overtime is there for it.