Pogue Mahone
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[Brighton] HELP SAVE THE PRINCE ALBERT!!
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thedonkeycentrehalf
Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
- Jul 7, 2003
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Will be interesting to see how that goes. The old Street Diner team who used to run the market in the little park on Queens Road and also events up at the Uni packed it in after the pandemic as there wasn't enough trade in the city at lunchtimes to make it work. Hopefully this will come off as many of the good independent eating places in the city started as Street Food businesses.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Developer twunts back for another go 
www.theargus.co.uk
Beloved gig venue faces 'biggest threat yet' over holiday let plans
A beloved pub and grassroots music could once again be under threat of closure as a planning application is set to be appealed.
www.theargus.co.uk
How come the holiday flat guy is back? What happened to the Beak market thing ?
That’s what I’m confused about.
Beak Market was approved - https://planningapps.brighton-hove....ils.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=S95H67DMK2D00
Weststander
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Planning law allows an appeal.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Article seems to be saying that holiday flat guy has gone over the heads of B&H council for their appeal
'In a post on Facebook, the Prince Albert said that the owners of the neighbouring property, Camping’s Luxury Coaches, would be appealing the Brighton and Hove City Council ruling from November to the Secretary of State'
Then I guess it’s the case that whilst there’s permission to use the property as a Beak market, Beak don’t own the premises and the owner is now also trying for holiday lets permission which is probably more lucrative.
Weststander
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It’d be funny in this case if the new government screwed the viability of holidays lets.
Weststander
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Unlucky timing for the chancers, in that the new government say they’re more supportive of the arts?
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
Been so f***ed up in this pub that I will support it as much as it supported my desire to be f***ed up.
What a venue
What a venue
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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Looking at companies house etc. It looks like it's been family owned since the mid 1970s.
I'm no accountant and as such it would be unwise and, in any case, probably inappropriate to post my thoughts on what's afoot here but the company doesn't seem to do much beyond owning that piece of land.
I believe they used to own the Camping shop on London Road. John's Camping?
Brian Fantana
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Imagine taking a planning application directly to the Secretary of State. I don't think an organisation I have any attachment to has ever done that...
This seems to be as a result of the new government pledging to overrule councils, where there is not an adequate reason to reject a planning application.
Housing and industrial developments are what they are looking to unblock. If the original application had been for a residential development I think the government would have taken a good look. I would be surprised if this appeal was approved.
Housing and industrial developments are what they are looking to unblock. If the original application had been for a residential development I think the government would have taken a good look. I would be surprised if this appeal was approved.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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You'd hope the Secretary of State of a newly-elected government would have more pressing matters to attend to
I wouldn’t read too much into this, it’s not unusual for freehold’s to be held by a limited company which sole purpose is to hold the freehold.
BrightonCottager
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There aren't doing that. They're appealing against a refusal of planning permission by BHCC. A right of appeal against a decision is a standard part of English law.
The BHCC decision was made by elected councillors against the recommendation of the planning officers who had recommended approval subject to conditions to stop the proposed office units changing to residential without a planning application and triggering objections to disturbance from the music venue.
There are very few circumstances in which a planning application is made directly to the Secretary of State - huge power stations, motorways etc, or if the local council is in 'special measures'.
It will be an interesting appeal.
Gordon Bennett
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- Sep 7, 2010
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Technically all planning appeals are made to the Secretary of State. Most are delegated to Planning Inspectors to determine but even those decisions made by the Secretary of State are based on a recommendation from a Planning Inspector.