[Brighton] HELP SAVE THE PRINCE ALBERT!!

[Brian Fantana]

There aren't doing that. They're appealing against a refusal of planning permission by BHCC. A right of appeal against a decision is a standard part of English law.

The BHCC decision was made by elected councillors against the recommendation of the planning officers who had recommended approval subject to conditions to stop the proposed office units changing to residential without a planning application and triggering objections to disturbance from the music venue.

There are very few circumstances in which a planning application is made directly to the Secretary of State - huge power stations, motorways etc, or if the local council is in 'special measures'.

It will be an interesting appeal.

I'll be honest, I saw an attempt to make a pretty feeble joke and I went for it

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

I believe they used to own the Camping shop on London Road. John's Camping?

I thought this was the old garage of Campings Coaches who disappeared long ago

 

[Weststander]

I thought this was the old garage of Campings Coaches who disappeared long ago

These developers have the surname Camping! Gordon and Pat, according to Companies House.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00567392/filing-history
They live in a huge house on Dyke Road Avenue and their company has £2.5m in assets.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

These developers have the surname Camping! Gordon and Pat, according to Companies House.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00567392/filing-history
They live in a huge house on Dyke Road Avenue and their company has £2.5 in assets.

To be fair, two pound fifty isn't a lot to live on

 

[Weststander]

To be fair, two pound fifty isn't a lot to live on

Thank you proof reader

 

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[CheeseRolls]

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org...iven-for-offices-next-to-pub-and-music-venue/

Office block unblocked sadly - so forget the Beak Brewery thang

 

[The Clamp]

Yuck.

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

This looks like a positive result. Much better than a block of flats. The music can go on and the owners of the property don't lose out either.

 

[jackalbion]

I suppose its better than whatever they wanted otherwise, hopefully won't inflict anything on the pub.

 

[beorhthelm]

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org...iven-for-offices-next-to-pub-and-music-venue/

Office block unblocked sadly - so forget the Beak Brewery thang

suggests the this planning is for office only, wasn't it office/residental before? reasonable outcome with condition office closing and sound insulation on the development.

 

[CheeseRolls]

suggests the this planning is for office only, wasn't it office/residental before? reasonable outcome with condition office closing and sound insulation on the development.

The craft beer and food hall would have been a handy addition to this part of town. As it is this proposal doesn't appear to negatively impact the live music in the Prince Albert, but at the same time, change of use from commercial office to residential or holiday let remains a long term threat.

 

[Peteinblack]

The craft beer and food hall would have been a handy addition to this part of town. As it is this proposal doesn't appear to negatively impact the live music in the Prince Albert, but at the same time, change of use from commercial office to residential or holiday let remains a long term threat.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-to-protect-music-venues-and-their-neighbours

 

[The Clamp]

The craft beer and food hall would have been a handy addition to this part of town. As it is this proposal doesn't appear to negatively impact the live music in the Prince Albert, but at the same time, change of use from commercial office to residential or holiday let remains a long term threat.

Plus a big ugly block of offices next to an old pub.

Will end up the way of The Cobblers Thumb.

 

[pb21]

Plus a big ugly block of offices next to an old pub.

Will end up the way of The Cobblers Thumb.

It's going to look something like this:

BH2022/02492 | Demolition of existing car rental premises and erection of a four storey building (plus basement) comprising solely commercial floorspace (Class E). |

planningapps.brighton-hove.gov.uk

Much better than it does at the moment, which is more like the Cobblers when that went.

Place needs to stay vibrant, plus the people working there will likley frequent the pub.

Being commercial use only, close to zero, if not zero, the pub is at risk.

 

[Uter]

It's going to look something like this:

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BH2022/02492 | Demolition of existing car rental premises and erection of a four storey building (plus basement) comprising solely commercial floorspace (Class E). |

planningapps.brighton-hove.gov.uk

Much better than it does at the moment, which is more like the Cobblers when that went.

View attachment 195830

Place needs to stay vibrant, plus the people working there will likley frequent the pub.

Being commercial use only, close to zero, if not zero, the pub is at risk.

I went on Google Street View to remind myself how minging the current building is, but I got distracted when I found a child who clocked the Google vehicle, and then ran after it giving it the finger. Ha ha!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Just spent a very pleasant afternoon in the Albert supping Estrella Galicia in the snug and sheltering from a downpour. Mood dampened by breaking news that the vile grasping ****s next door get to do their shitty little property development despite universal opposition by the community. Anyone else smell fish? ****s

 

[The Clamp]

It's going to look something like this:

View attachment 195829

BH2022/02492 | Demolition of existing car rental premises and erection of a four storey building (plus basement) comprising solely commercial floorspace (Class E). |

planningapps.brighton-hove.gov.uk

Much better than it does at the moment, which is more like the Cobblers when that went.

View attachment 195830

Place needs to stay vibrant, plus the people working there will likley frequent the pub.

Being commercial use only, close to zero, if not zero, the pub is at risk.

To be fair, you make a good point. Looks quite good

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Would this however put to bed any risk of success noise appeals if the correct caveat's are in place on the build, ie the pub is a music pub, it was here before you and you know this so don’t have any grounds for appeal.

The pub gets some uplift in passing trade as well?

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Would this however put to bed any risk of success noise appeals if the correct caveat's are in place on the build, ie the pub is a music pub, it was here before you and you know this so don’t have any grounds for appeal.

The pub gets some uplift in passing trade as well?

And then when the offices conveniently can't be filled and the application comes in to convert them for residential use?