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Iggle Piggle

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2010
5,960
Let's have a think. Do I post letters or write emails? Do I do my banking online or pay extra for a bill to be posted? If I need something delivered I pay for special delivery.

I won't be buying shares because I don't use the post service. I honestly don't think it's a modern business.

Whilst that maybe true, floatations of ex gov business are defined by how many shares are sold not how much money the taxpayer has lost on a business being undervalued (bizarrely). On that basis I'm in
 


Brian Fantana

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2006
7,552
In the field
Let's have a think. Do I post letters or write emails? Do I do my banking online or pay extra for a bill to be posted? If I need something delivered I pay for special delivery.

I won't be buying shares because I don't use the post service. I honestly don't think it's a modern business.

You wouldn't be buying shares in a letters business, though. You'd be buying shares in predominantly a parcels business, which also delivers the odd letter.
 


Letter sales falling; poor labour relations; lack of modernisation; where is the money for dividends going to come from; inevitable Government or Wathdog interference....

Not likely!

Lack of modernisation? In 2008 Royal Mail invested in about 565 brand new sequence sorting machines for mailcentres and delivery offices around the whole UK. If that isn't modernisation then I don't know what is.
 




I will take my free ones as an employee of Royal Mail. The public like to moan about the posties but don't realise what a great service they are going to lose. Very
sad time, even Thatcher who I will always hate with passion decided that Royal Mail was the Queens service and should not be sold off.

100% this.
 


Hell yes, I'm in big for this one. The corporate prize here is massive, years of union intransigence and blocking modernisation and anything remotely looking like productivity improvements.

Under private ownership with proper capital funding this business has the potential to properly compete on the UK and world stage. Those union lead boots will become a thing of the past when the people that work for Royal Mail realise how good their propsects are in the new world, both as individuals, and as powerful business.

Do you actually know anything about what has gone on in Royal Mail since 2000?
 


Could well be worth a try,in view of the fact that the unions will not be involved in the new business ,they held up progress to modernise for years and when new machinery was eventually introduced it was not unknown for it to be damaged overnight.
A John Lewis type setup could well produce a thriving and successful firm.

Are you actually accusing postal workers of sabotaging newly installed mail sorting machines?
 






BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,723
Yup,I have applied for some to put into my SIPP fund.
Capital growth may be a bit hesitant ,but the divis will be good.
 


Brian Fantana

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2006
7,552
In the field

Regardless of exactly what is required, it is not something that the Government would undertake likely. Secondly, there shouldn't be the need for it if Ofcom do their job as industry regulator properly.
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
email and the web could be the making of RM. Who's going the deliver all the stuff ordered over the web? So much scope for efficiencies at RM makes it tempting

DPD, Yodel, TNT, DHL, UK Mail, Fed-Ex, UPS, Hermes, Parcelforce, Parceline, Interlink express.............

How are Royal Mail workers pushing around trolleys full of mail going to deliver the quantities of parcels needed to make it a thriving business? especially when there are all ready hundreds of parcel couriers services out there.
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
DPD, Yodel, TNT, DHL, UK Mail, Fed-Ex, UPS, Hermes, Parcelforce, Parceline, Interlink express.............

How are Royal Mail workers pushing around trolleys full of mail going to deliver the quantities of parcels needed to make it a thriving business? especially when there are all ready hundreds of parcel couriers services out there.
The bulk of the workforce are in or will have vans.

2 members of staff, 2 rounds, all the packets.

Even I had some reservations about the new working practices, but 18 months in and it works well.

We wouldn't be able to do the job now, on bikes.
 




Tim Over Whelmed

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 24, 2007
10,659
Arundel
Yes
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Do you actually know anything about what has gone on in Royal Mail since 2000?
There does seem to be an awful lot of FACTS being written by people who clearly have no idea what's going on with RM.
 


fat old seagull

New member
Sep 8, 2005
5,239
Rural Ringmer
Simply on a matter of my principles (which aren't astronomically high) NO !

I remember every time this has happened the greedy dive in and buy cheap shares, flog them on and in no time at all the Post Office will be in foreign hand like all our previously sold utilities , and we'll be paying a quid to sent a burfday card.

I'd sooner give my money to the bookie or lady of the night :whistle:
 


BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,723
Simply on a matter of my principles (which aren't astronomically high) NO !

I remember every time this has happened the greedy dive in and buy cheap shares, flog them on and in no time at all the Post Office will be in foreign hand like all our previously sold utilities , and we'll be paying a quid to sent a burfday card.

I'd sooner give my money to the bookie or lady of the night :whistle:

Hope you don't pay into a pension F.O.G.,because you may well find that some Royal Mail shares find their way in there someday,along with such nasty companies as Centrica!
 








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