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Hammond: Will you 'Booo' him on his return to Withdean?

Will you 'Booo' Hammond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 27.5%
  • No

    Votes: 84 64.1%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 11 8.4%

  • Total voters
    131








fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,165
Brighton
If it a choice between that or doing a Luton, I think I can live with it.

Easy I could not agree more. But what is pissing me off here is that DK keeps making out all these players are money grabbing as they have been made excellent offers.
Why can't he be just honest and admit we cannot compete with the offers other clubs will and do offer?

These players do not in my opinion deserve to have their names blackened.
 




paddy

New member
Feb 2, 2005
1,020
London
He doesn't deserve to be booed.

Wanted more money, and probably fed up of being slagged off by his own supporters week in week out.

Good luck to him.

You really believe Hammond was slagged off to the extent he would want to leave the club he grew up in. Get real, he's a professional footballer. By moving to Colchester he's shown it was just about the money.

Anyway, he's gone now, lets look at the positives - we got £250 000 for an average player who would have left for nothing in the summer.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,429
Location Location
What lie ?
THIS one

Webb (agent) stressed: "This should not be interpreted as a desire by Dean to leave the club. Dean would like to play in the Championship with Brighton. We cannot, however, determine whether he is able to do that until the end of the season. Yes, he is a Bosman and the thought process might be that the agent will just move him on at the end of the season but that is not right because, if Albion get into the Championship and there is further discussion on a contract, I think there is every probability of keeping the player."

"From the player's point of view, there is no reason for him to agree on a new contract today and that is not because he wants to go but simply because he wants to see where Brighton are at the end of the season and what sort of investment Brighton make in players - to see whether they are going to have a good go for the rest of the season and if they go up."

"What Brighton have put to Dean is a situation where they want a decision now. If they wish to force the issue that is their prerogative but Dean has not asked to leave the club or said he wants to leave."
 


blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,364
Southampton
You really believe Hammond was slagged off to the extent he would want to leave the club he grew up in. Get real, he's a professional footballer. By moving to Colchester he's shown it was just about the money.

Anyway, he's gone now, lets look at the positives - we got £250 000 for an average player who would have left for nothing in the summer.


What i was trying to say is he probably had more reasons to go than stay. Money id obviously the main reason, but i believe there were others. If it was just about money he would have refused any transfer and waiting for that big signing on fee in the summer. Coupled with the fact that most people seemed to be slagging him off probably added to the reasons to go
 


blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,364
Southampton
THIS one

Webb (agent) stressed: "This should not be interpreted as a desire by Dean to leave the club. Dean would like to play in the Championship with Brighton. We cannot, however, determine whether he is able to do that until the end of the season. Yes, he is a Bosman and the thought process might be that the agent will just move him on at the end of the season but that is not right because, if Albion get into the Championship and there is further discussion on a contract, I think there is every probability of keeping the player."

"From the player's point of view, there is no reason for him to agree on a new contract today and that is not because he wants to go but simply because he wants to see where Brighton are at the end of the season and what sort of investment Brighton make in players - to see whether they are going to have a good go for the rest of the season and if they go up."

"What Brighton have put to Dean is a situation where they want a decision now. If they wish to force the issue that is their prerogative but Dean has not asked to leave the club or said he wants to leave."

How is that a lie... he wants to play in the championship. The club wouldn't take the risk, so rightly we sold him. If he was all about money, he could have turned down Colchester and picked up a big signing on fee in the summer
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,429
Location Location
And this from Nicky Forster (who Hammond had presumably been lying to as well)

"I want to push forward and get back up into the Championship where I feel I can play and the club can go. At the moment the ambition from the club doesn't seem to mirror that and I think that is the reason why Dean Hammond is reserving judgement.

"The way I see it, and I think the way all the players see it, is that there is no doubt about it, if Dean Hammond gets the assurances that the club will strengthen the squad and make a push for promotion then he will sign."

"From speaking to him I have got no doubt in my mind about that but he obviously at the moment isn't getting the assurances that the club are going to do that.

"He sees that he could have another few years in this division (League One) and for a young player captaining the side, playing well week in and week out he wants to do the best he can. I think it would be with a very heavy heart that he would leave this club but, for the sake of his future, he might feel that he needs to."
 




paddy

New member
Feb 2, 2005
1,020
London
What i was trying to say is he probably had more reasons to go than stay. Money id obviously the main reason, but i believe there were others. If it was just about money he would have refused any transfer and waiting for that big signing on fee in the summer. Coupled with the fact that most people seemed to be slagging him off probably added to the reasons to go

However, by moving to Colchester he'll be earning substantially more money that if he stayed at Brighton. Also, there will no doubt be a claue which allows him to leave if Colchester get relegated and recieve his large signing on fee.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,429
Location Location
How is that a lie... he wants to play in the championship. The club wouldn't take the risk, so rightly we sold him. If he was all about money, he could have turned down Colchester and picked up a big signing on fee in the summer
Well, it looks like he'll get...oooh...a good 3-4 months worth of Championship football now, doesn't it. I dunno what Colchester are paying him, but this "show ambition" malarky was clearly a smokescreen - he just wanted more money, simple as. Perfectly understandable, and it happens all the time.

Why couldn't he just be honest about it, instead of taking us all for mugs ?
 


sir danny cullip

New member
Feb 14, 2004
5,433
Burgess Hill
If the club really really wanted Dean to stay (didnt have the scot midfielder lined up as a potential replacement and weren't interested in taking 250k if it came their way) then they would have offered him this 'substantial' new contract offer about a year ago rather than even letting it get to the stage where his agent was touting round for a new club.

Im sure the club did want him to stay but as soon as their resolve was tested they were happy to take the money.
 






blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,364
Southampton
You are clearly only reading what you want to read.


As are you.. have you heard Hammond actually say anything ?

DK and the agent are both lying, somewhere in the middle is the truth, something we will probably never know.

At the end of the day have we moved forward over the past 12 months, no !!

In fact this season is turning into an exact copy of last.... so maybe time for Hammond to move on as very unlikely we will be playing Championship football for a while yet
 


fosters headband

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2003
5,165
Brighton
And this from Nicky Forster (who Hammond had presumably been lying to as well)

"I want to push forward and get back up into the Championship where I feel I can play and the club can go. At the moment the ambition from the club doesn't seem to mirror that and I think that is the reason why Dean Hammond is reserving judgement.

"The way I see it, and I think the way all the players see it, is that there is no doubt about it, if Dean Hammond gets the assurances that the club will strengthen the squad and make a push for promotion then he will sign."

"From speaking to him I have got no doubt in my mind about that but he obviously at the moment isn't getting the assurances that the club are going to do that.

"He sees that he could have another few years in this division (League One) and for a young player captaining the side, playing well week in and week out he wants to do the best he can. I think it would be with a very heavy heart that he would leave this club but, for the sake of his future, he might feel that he needs to."

And last nights result and the fact it is now 1 win in the last seven games makes promotion even through the play offs extremely doubtfull. Therefore Championship football has more chance at Colchester than Brighton.
 


blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,364
Southampton
Well, it looks like he'll get...oooh...a good 3-4 months worth of Championship football now, doesn't it. I dunno what Colchester are paying him, but this "show ambition" malarky was clearly a smokescreen - he just wanted more money, simple as. Perfectly understandable, and it happens all the time.

Why couldn't he just be honest about it, instead of taking us all for mugs ?

The thing is Colchester have done what we should have done when in there position, something we said would save us. They have spent money, it is't impossible they can stay up, if not they could have a decet shout at going straight back up. I'm not saying Hammond has been 100% honest, but not sure it is all a lie either
 


Jimmy Grimble

Well-known member
Nov 10, 2007
10,103
Starting a revolution from my bed
As are you.. have you heard Hammond actually say anything ?

DK and the agent are both lying, somewhere in the middle is the truth, something we will probably never know.

At the end of the day have we moved forward over the past 12 months, no !!

In fact this season is turning into an exact copy of last.... so maybe time for Hammond to move on as very unlikely we will be playing Championship football for a while yet

I do believe that part of an agents job is to speak on behalf of his client
 






portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
17,793
Will everyone STOP being so bitter. Who died?!!!! Mediocre player leaves mediocre old club for mediocre new club. That's all.

Personally, I wish him luck. Decent player, we'll miss some parts of his play but he's not irreplaceable. Fresh blood, lot of new faces, this saturday's game is actually the most exciting to look forward to in a long time!

But it's not CRIME to leave BHA people. Booing him on his return; you're just so churlish and full of unfounded hate. Simmer down and save it for Leon Knight's next visit!!!
 


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