Hamilton and McClaren stripped of points

[Icy Gull]

from the Australian Grand Prix

No details as yet apart from "for providing evidence deliberately misleading to the stewards at the hearing on March 29."

( Bet Ferrari are involved somewhere along the line though)

BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Hamilton excluded from Aussie GP

 

[itszamora]

Ridiculous, it's fast becoming a joke of a sport. With the appeal (that Ferrari are behind) over the diffusers we won't actually know the confirmed result of the Australian GP till about 3 or 4 weeks after the race itself.

With every bizarre decision F1 is fast losing credibility IMO.

 

[skipper734]

More on the BBc sight now. Nothing yet on F1 sight.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

Hamilton loses Aussie GP points
Jarno Trulli and Lewis Hamilton
Trulli (front) was passed by Hamilton (back) when he slid off the track

Lewis Hamilton and McLaren have been stripped of their podium finish and all points at the Australian Grand Prix.

The sport's world governing body said they were excluded "for providing evidence deliberately misleading to the stewards at the hearing on 29 March".

A post-race hearing promoted Hamilton from fourth to third after Trulli was penalised for passing the Englishman while the safety car was out.

Trulli and Toyota have been reinstated to third place.

The Italian was initially handed a 25-second penalty for the incident which saw him demoted to 12th.

Hamilton was summoned by stewards on Thursday to discuss what the FIA, motorsport's governing body, described as "a new element" of evidence.

It was not clear what the new evidence was, although it was thought to involve pit-to-car radio conversations between the team and driver, with the FIA ruling that there had been a breach of the international sporting code

The yellow safety flags came out at Melbourne after a collision between Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel and Robert Kubica in his BMW Sauber.

Trulli slid off the track and was passed by Hamilton but the Toyota driver said he had little choice but to overtake the Briton again.

606: DEBATE
As the stewards messed up in the first place by punishing Trulli, surely the best thing to do would be to reclassify Trulli as 3rd and Hamilton 4th?

Tom

"When the safety car came out towards the end of the race, Hamilton passed me but soon after he suddenly slowed down and pulled over to the side of the road," he said.

"I thought he had a problem so I overtook him as there was nothing else I could do."

Hamilton had told Speed TV after the race that Trulli went wide onto the grass at the second to last corner.

"I was forced to go by. I slowed down as much as I could. I was told to let him back past, I don't know if that's the regulations, and if it isn't, then I should have really had third," said the Briton.

Toyota had said after the race that they would make a protest but dropped that on Wednesday because they felt it had no chance of succeeding.

 

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

When did racing stop being about who crossed the line first? It's actually becoming ridiculous!

 

[itszamora]

When did racing stop being about who crossed the line first? It's actually becoming ridiculous!

I think the whole concept of racing to win died at Belgium last year.

 

[skipper734]

Question is what in the past has McLaren done to upset Bernie and the F1 hierarchy so badly. Apart from the fact that they are not Ferrari.

 

[the viscount]

This is now becoming a f---------g joke

 

[sten_super]

I agree that the whole drawn-out process of not knowing who won a race until 2 weeks afterwards is a complete farce.

However, I'm not so sure about those shouting of Ferrari bias. There undoubtedly is that in the sport, but I think in this case, IF McClaren lied in their testimony regarding the Trulli manouevre, then the punishment may be deserved.

 

[SNOOBS]

Does anyone realise what happened?

Trulli went wide so Hamilton overtook him - which was fine (even though you can't overtake under the safety car)
Mclaren told Hamilton to let Trulli past - this made it look like Trulli was wrongfully overtaking Hamilton

So its fair enough on Hamilton?

 

[Scotty Mac]

However, I'm not so sure about those shouting of Ferrari bias. There undoubtedly is that in the sport, but I think in this case, IF McClaren lied in their testimony regarding the Trulli manouevre, then the punishment may be deserved.

yeah, but even if the cock up was partly down to mclaren, you still have to blmae ferrari for it. its sort of a rule

 

[itszamora]

Does anyone realise what happened?

Trulli went wide so Hamilton overtook him - which was fine (even though you can't overtake under the safety car)
Mclaren told Hamilton to let Trulli past - this made it look like Trulli was wrongfully overtaking Hamilton

So its fair enough on Hamilton?

Basically it seems as if McLaren have been penalised by trying to be too fair - no doubt influenced by the comedy decision at Spa last year. All that should have happened here is Trulli should have been reinstated in 4th place, or maybe even 3rd. No need to kick Lewis out.

 

[Curious Orange]

When the stewards initially decided to penalise Trulli, was it because McLaren had made a protest?

 

[Surrey Seagull]

This goes to show how out of touch the FIA actually are. If this was NASCAR, Indycar or any sort of decent motor racing authority, all this would of been sorted out during the race with no fuss!

 

[fire&skill]

As my old Nan used to say, "Never trust a man who sculpts his hairline''

She also used to say ''Formula 1 is sh*t and not a sport''

God, I miss her.

 

[champion7]

This is why i have given up on watching F1 and have gone over to nascar.

 

[Garage_Doors]

More on the BBc sight now. Nothing yet on F1 sight.

Always found the F1.com site to be very poor, what is the best F1 site out there for good information.

 

[Trigger]

Seriously, what a f***ing joke of a sport.

 

[Icy Gull]

The behind the scenes shenanigans are a joke but contrary to some of the comments on this thread it is by far the most exciting and interesting motor racing in the world, which is why it has massive WORLDWIDE interest, which is something all the other types of racing can only dream about.

F1 rules FACT

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Have FIA joined the KKK ?