[Albion] Gut feeling - RDZ staying or going after this season?

[Stat Brother]

Why?! Incredible statement

I can't quite put my finger on it.

 

[Change at Barnham]

Any top club that brings him in at the end of this season is taking a very big gamble. He needs at least another season building this project IMO before he should be considered for a club that can be considered in Europe's elite. He's got a decent track record but hasn't built anything with longevity, and the clubs he is being linked with aren't going to want a stopgap for two seasons.

Maybe he could get away with it at Bayern once Leverkusen have been stripped of their good players and their manager/coaching staff come the end of the season and you've got the strongest team in the league by a mile, but at Barca, Liverpool, United etc, a few bad results and you're going to have fans from around the world foaming at the mouth to have you out on your arse, especially if you're following Klopp, who will no doubt go down with Shankly & Paisley et al as an all time great with their fans and will be a near impossible act to follow.

I don't think he seems overly happy here, personally, and have had that feeling for a while. Yeah we've had a lot of injuries but I think he was f***ed off that we didn't replace Mac & Caicedo sufficiently in the summer, then failed in the market again in January. I do understand and agree with that sentiment, but I don't think he has been very subtle in conveying it. Having said that, I think his tactical shortcomings have really been exposed on a number of occasions this season (Burnley, Sheff U, Everton, Fulham at home, Luton, Fulham, Roma away for example), and wouldn't be hugely surprised if his change in attitude (perceived by me) has affected our performances.

If he does get an approach and wants to go, so long as someone's paying up, fine. I'd love for him to come back refreshed next season, having got the players he wants and kept hold of our stars, ready to go all out to achieve something really special, but I can't see it happening. I won't begrudge him, won't scrub out his name from the signed shirt in my hallway or anything if he does go on to a bigger job in the summer, but I think it would be a mistake on his part if he did.

As for Potter, he can f*** right off.

I think this is a very insightful post, it sums up my thoughts better than I could have written them myself.

The last line is the only bit I wouldn't have written as I think GP deserves a bit more respect, but I do feel it would be a big error if Potter returned. The moment things started to go wobbly a large part of the fanbase would go into a very loud meltdown.

I hope RDZ stays another season, but if not we are now an incredibly attractive club for any aspiring top coach to come to.
RDZ is a brilliant leader and hugely entertaining, but who ever follows will also be exciting, and it won't be Graham Potter.

 

[dazzer6666]

I think this is a very insightful post, it sums up my thoughts better than I could have written them myself.

The last line is the only bit I wouldn't have written as I think GP deserves a bit more respect, but I do feel it would be a big error if Potter returned. The moment things started to go wobbly a large part of the fanbase would go into a very loud meltdown.

I hope RDZ stays another season, but if not we are now an incredibly attractive club for any aspiring top coach to come to.
RDZ is a brilliant leader and hugely entertaining, but who ever follows will also be exciting, and it won't be Graham Potter.

Tony can take the pulse of the fanbase as well as anyone…..he‘ll know that there would be a significant element that would be toxic towards Potter. No chance he’d re-employ him imo.

 

[macbeth]

Tony can take the pulse of the fanbase as well as anyone…..he‘ll know that there would be a significant element that would be toxic towards Potter. No chance he’d re-employ him imo.

and yet he reemployed glenn murray, and we were much the better for it

 

[peterward]

Sloppy seconds

 

[Silverhatch]

He’s also having an interview at Liverpool at the weekend too, according to Sky

 

[Hiheidi]

According to Romano, Amorim is second choice for Liverpool if they can't get Alonso.

 

[sparkie]

He’s also having an interview at Liverpool at the weekend too, according to Sky

Sunday, 2pm I think.

 

[Weststander]

and yet he reemployed glenn murray, and we were much the better for it

Totally different circumstances and taking nsc as a sample size most people knew it.

Muzza loved life here. Poyet didn’t think Muzza worthy of a Championship level contract and didn’t like a player requesting it. So he got rid, deeming CMS better. CP allowed Muzza to carry on living in Brighton.

 

[Mellotron]

Poyet didn’t think Muzza worthy of a Championship level contract and didn’t like a player requesting it. So he got rid, deeming CMS better.

I will never, ever understand (or fully believe this).

I can't think of a player more suited to a Poyet system than Glenn Murray. I can't think of a less suited player to a Poyet system than Craig Mackail-Smith.

 

[peterward]

Totally different circumstances and taking nsc as a sample size most people knew it.

Muzza loved life here. Poyet didn’t think Muzza worthy of a Championship level contract and didn’t like a player requesting it. So he got rid, deeming CMS better. CP allowed Muzza to carry on living in Brighton.

What a schoolboy error from Poyet!

 

[banjo]

Whatever happens, I’ll trust the club to do the right thing. They normally do.

 

[SAC]

Tony can take the pulse of the fanbase as well as anyone…..he‘ll know that there would be a significant element that would be toxic towards Potter. No chance he’d re-employ him imo.

I think Bloom would re-employ Potter if he thought he was the best available. Fans may grumble at the beginning but would be fine if the results were as good or better than this season. That said, I still don't think isn't good enough to be employed by a top club so isn't going anywhere.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I think Bloom would re-employ Potter if he thought he was the best available. Fans may grumble at the beginning but would be fine if the results were as good or better than this season. That said, I still don't think isn't good enough to be employed by a top club so isn't going anywhere.

I can imagine Tony having an in depth conversation with GPot either way, discussing long term goals, likely investment, playing style etc - Tony doesn't hold grudges and I'm sure he's still on good terms with him.

For Potter to be considered to come back, he'd have to build bridges with the fans though. His increasingly chippy attitude towards any criticism last time was f***ing annoying, for someone who claims to understand emotional intelligence, he never displayed it in his own behaviour. I don't think an apology would be needed, not explicitly, but his bahaviour would have to reflect his humility.

I was as frustrated as anyone during the barren spells under Potter, but I will say that in that period before he left (across 2 seasons) we were playing a much more entertaining style, scoring goals and looking good for top 10. If he was to come back, I'd hope that; he can convince us he cares, we can get past his departure and we can play the style of football we saw v Leicester etc.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I can imagine Tony having an in depth conversation with GPot either way, discussing long term goals, likely investment, playing style etc - Tony doesn't hold grudges and I'm sure he's still on good terms with him.

For Potter to be considered to come back, he'd have to build bridges with the fans though. His increasingly chippy attitude towards any criticism last time was f***ing annoying, for someone who claims to understand emotional intelligence, he never displayed it in his own behaviour. I don't think an apology would be needed, not explicitly, but his bahaviour would have to reflect his humility.

I was as frustrated as anyone during the barren spells under Potter, but I will say that in that period before he left (across 2 seasons) we were playing a much more entertaining style, scoring goals and looking good for top 10. If he was to come back, I'd hope that; he can convince us he cares, we can get past his departure and we can play the style of football we saw v Leicester etc.

I think Matthew Benham might disagree that Tony doesn’t hold grudges!

But otherwise I agree, both Bloom and Barber have made it clear they don’t resent Potter since he went. If RDZ was to go, I really hope we do go for Potter, looking around Europe I don’t see a better, realistic man for the job.

 

[Insel affe]

Sunday, 2pm I think.

and at 4pm will withdraw the offer after Liverpool stick five past our lacklustre display.....

 

[Weststander]

I think Matthew Benham might disagree that Tony doesn’t hold grudges!

But otherwise I agree, both Bloom and Barber have made it clear they don’t resent Potter since he went. If RDZ was to go, I really hope we do go for Potter, looking around Europe I don’t see a better, realistic man for the job.

Is that because they’re positive people who don’t generally resent ex employees?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I think Matthew Benham might disagree that Tony doesn’t hold grudges!

But otherwise I agree, both Bloom and Barber have made it clear they don’t resent Potter since he went. If RDZ was to go, I really hope we do go for Potter, looking around Europe I don’t see a better, realistic man for the job.

I absolutely despair of our fanbase sometimes.

De Zerbi, who's been loyal to the club, agreed to a contract where he can only move post season and who got a decimated squad to the last 16 of the Europa League needs to go (based on perceived demeanour at press conferences and a Twitter rumour to sell papers) and the dull yes man who was loyal right up to the point Chelsea flashed their knickers mid-season and then helped them asset strip us needs to come in?

I suppose I could at least go back to sleeping through home games as we go on massive winless and goalless runs again and we can all look forward to finishing 12th.

 

[Stat Brother]

Tony can take the pulse of the fanbase as well as anyone…..he‘ll know that there would be a significant element that would be toxic towards Potter. No chance he’d re-employ him imo.

He still employs Webster and Steele!!


(We're the best, aren't we)

 

[Flounce]

and at 4pm will withdraw the offer after Liverpool stick five past our lacklustre display.....

I wonder how RDZ will feel about being at best second choice from all these potential suitors. I can’t see Liverpool making him their first choice, even if we stick 5 past them either.