Gold - Yes or No?

[NMH]

I'm gagging for this club to take a big step forward and talking to Gold seems a good starting point, sorry if that offends you. Bet you were DELIGHTED by DK's statement on Saturday eh??

I am happy if our club's fortunes aren't suddenly in the lap (and total control) of just any bloke with dosh, who has had bugger-all to do with BHAFC before now (as far as you and I know) and is only suddenly in the picture once we got the nod for Falmer.

Well now, what about you - wouldn't you just love a Ken Bates at Brighton perhaps?
Serious profile in football, connected with successful clubs?? Leeds tearing up the league now?? ooow, salivate over him!
Would you have known about Bates 5 years ago? Leeds had a close call there, big club and a close bloody shave - high-stake gamble that a club like ours would probably NOT have got away with! What about their fortunes when they topped the Prem, had spent and owed multi-millions?? Who 'delivered' for those happy Leeds supporters back then eh?
What about Archer and his crony? Did you immediately think he was a great guy, an honest businessman? Let's put it another way, did you immediately know he wasn't? Who did?

Here's another one for you, 'wise one'; what if Gold died suddenly, and despite his interest in football (or at least the making of money in it), his next of kin don't share that interest? They inherit a football club, and sell it straight away to....Archer and Bellotti, who say they now have the best interest of BHA at heart and want to make amends.
What if he, in his moneyspinning in football, decides he could buy now for 30p on the pound, compared to what he can sell to a Japanese fellow who came second in the bid for Birmingham City?

No way, that could never happen.
Nor could a bloke come in while a chairman is on his holidays, and buy a football club out for £50 f***ing quid.

Alright, so this MAY be a few conjectures, or exaggeration - but so, in my opinion, is the leap to say "yes yes YES" to handing EVERYTHING to the latest businessman with money.

 

[BensGrandad]

I am happy if our club's fortunes aren't suddenly in the lap (and total control) of just any bloke with dosh, who has had bugger-all to do with BHAFC before now (as far as you and I know) and is only suddenly in the picture once we got the nod for Falmer.

Well now, what about you - wouldn't you just love a Ken Bates at Brighton perhaps?
Serious profile in football, connected with successful clubs?? Leeds tearing up the league now?? ooow, salivate over him!
Would you have known about Bates 5 years ago? Leeds had a close call there, big club and a close bloody shave - high-stake gamble that a club like ours would probably NOT have got away with! What about their fortunes when they topped the Prem, had spent and owed multi-millions?? Who 'delivered' for those happy Leeds supporters back then eh?
What about Archer and his crony? Did you immediately think he was a great guy, an honest businessman? Let's put it another way, did you immediately know he wasn't? Who did?


Much as I agree with some of your sentiment I believe you are taking the half empty glass view of this. The only way we are going to move forward and achieve possible premiership status is with a massive injection of cashversio

Here's another one for you, 'wise one'; what if Gold died suddenly, and despite his interest in football (or at least the making of money in it), his next of kin don't share that interest? They inherit a football club, and sell it straight away to....Archer and Bellotti, who say they now have the best interest of BHA at heart and want to make amends.
What if he, in his moneyspinning in football, decides he could buy now for 30p on the pound, compared to what he can sell to a Japanese fellow who came second in the bid for Birmingham City?

No way, that could never happen.
Nor could a bloke come in while a chairman is on his holidays, and buy a football club out for £50 f***ing quid.

Alright, so this MAY be a few conjectures, or exaggeration - but so, in my opinion, is the leap to say "yes yes YES" to handing EVERYTHING to the latest businessman with money.

Much as i agree with your sentiment I believe that yiou are taking 'glass half empty ' view of this. The only way that we are going to achieve premiership status, which must be the aim of every club, is with a massive injection of cash and with his comes the probability that the person injecting bthis woyuld want control of their assets and money, which is only right and natural.

Nobody knows what the next of kin of any body DKI included would do in the possioble death of the person incharge. DK is older than David Gold so the likelehood of passing away sooner is greater.

If we reach the premiership and he, or whoever, decides to sell, so be it but atleast we will have experienced top flight football again without the prospect of going broke. As regards Ken Bates, Archer etc until that happens nobody knows exactly what the man has intentions of, you can only take them on their past record and face value and in this case David Gold fits the picture as well as and better than most.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Much as i agree with your sentiment I believe that yiou are taking 'glass half empty ' view of this. The only way that we are going to achieve premiership status, which must be the aim of every club, is with a massive injection of cash and with his comes the probability that the person injecting bthis woyuld want control of their assets and money, which is only right and natural.

Nobody knows what the next of kin of any body DKI included would do in the possioble death of the person incharge. DK is older than David Gold so the likelehood of passing away sooner is greater.

If we reach the premiership and he, or whoever, decides to sell, so be it but atleast we will have experienced top flight football again without the prospect of going broke. As regards Ken Bates, Archer etc until that happens nobody knows exactly what the man has intentions of, you can only take them on their past record and face value and in this case David Gold fits the picture as well as and better than most.

I thought you talked a lot on sence on the radio on saturday.

 

[BensGrandad]

Thank you it is nice to occassionally be praised rather than always be the f***ing idiot or at least perceived as such. I know that I do ocassionally post controversial points to test the water but I do speak sense some of the time and do really have BHA interests in my heart.

I believe that this is our way forward, whether it be with David Gold or somebody else but I would rather it be an English/British man with legitimate business interests, whatever that may be, than a far east corporation or even an eastern european using us to launder his money.

 

[Brovion]

Much as i agree with your sentiment I believe that yiou are taking 'glass half empty ' view of this. The only way that we are going to achieve premiership status, which must be the aim of every club, is with a massive injection of cash and with his comes the probability that the person injecting bthis woyuld want control of their assets and money, which is only right and natural.

Nobody knows what the next of kin of any body DKI included would do in the possioble death of the person incharge. DK is older than David Gold so the likelehood of passing away sooner is greater.

If we reach the premiership and he, or whoever, decides to sell, so be it but atleast we will have experienced top flight football again without the prospect of going broke. As regards Ken Bates, Archer etc until that happens nobody knows exactly what the man has intentions of, you can only take them on their past record and face value and in this case David Gold fits the picture as well as and better than most.

Well put. (I must be getting old, I'm agreeing with you more and more!)

 

[Ernest]

Plus the fact his minders would give you a kicking if you did call him a potless pillock

Only one problem with that as he is not potless and not a PILLOCK

 

[B.W.]

Yes - it is all about money, and we need a lot more of it than we've got...

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

personally, i find it absolutely abhorrent that one man is able to accrue such personal fortune. but if he helps the albion, i'll be as complicit as any.

 

[Storer68]

But seriously, how long before you start calling David Gold a potless pillock?

No can do. he bought the FA Cup!

 

[unnameable]

Though it will be sad to see the "purity" of the club compromised, only by attracting "non-Albion" people will the club prosper in the few years before and after construction of the new stadium.

 

[Simster]

I find it very interesting that one of the things people have been banging on about for agers is investment in the club once Falmer is realised, now falmer is realised and someone appears ( although we do not know for sure) to want to invest, some people are bleating about it!

Dave, it seems that only 9 people out of 180 who have expressed an interest on this thread are against David Gold investing in the club (according to this poll so far). Half of one percent. So when you say "some people", you actually mean "hardly anybody".

 

[crasher]

David Gold has a ridiculours "beard". Do we really want facial hair like that at Falmer?

I'd say we take his money on condition he shaves every morning.

 

[SICKASAGULL]

I cant believe those who are suggesting we should`nt jump at the possibility of Gold taking over the Albion,because he has lots of cash,he might die etc,etc.He is a football fan and has backed Birmingham for years.He has now tired of the long journeys involved in following his present club and having a house close to Brighton is looking to be involved with a club in the south.
It is obvious that Knight wants to be No.1 despite the fact that he did not have the necessary cash to stop us being relegated and has even less now with the crowd dwindling.
Supporters whilst thanking him for his past efforts must make it clear that he has to approach Gold on bended knees,if he still ignores supporters wishes,over 91% in the poll then pressure must be applied,namely boycot matches,he will have to listen then.

 

[ROSM]

I cant believe those who are suggesting we should`nt jump at the possibility of Gold taking over the Albion,because he has lots of cash,he might die etc,etc.He is a football fan and has backed Birmingham for years.He has now tired of the long journeys involved in following his present club and having a house close to Brighton is looking to be involved with a club in the south.
It is obvious that Knight wants to be No.1 despite the fact that he did not have the necessary cash to stop us being relegated and has even less now with the crowd dwindling.
Supporters whilst thanking him for his past efforts must make it clear that he has to approach Gold on bended knees,if he still ignores supporters wishes,over 91% in the poll then pressure must be applied,namely boycot matches,he will have to listen then.

and this could be why the board felt it necessary to clarify that no contact has been made? Are we really saying that if someone who may or may not invest in the club, doesn't, then it is automatically the fault of the current board and we should boycott matches?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Well of course the answer to the original question has to be a resounding YES.

Surely he ticks all the right boxes? Football fan, plenty of cash, lives in Sussex blah blah..

As someone whose 'second team' is Birmingham City (I was born in Warwickshire and my father took me to St.Andrews from a pretty young age) I have plenty of family/friends who still go there. They see Gold as a good man, someone who came in when the Blues were at a real low.

Gold is not some jonny come lately who wants to jump on the bandwagon that is football simply to make money. He has enough money. He is a football fan. Yes, I am sure he would like to make money from the Albion, but deep down he must realise that there are VERY few Clubs that actually make a profit. (Unless he got us into the Prem and sell us on )

Ok so he might not support the Albion - but people with businesses valued at £500 million who do support the Albion are few and far between - after all where have they been in the past 10 years?

I for one hope the takeover of the Blues goes through smoothly, and that he then has the chance to TALK to DK about where we go from here.

 

[ROSM]

Well of course the answer to the original question has to be a resounding YES.

Surely he ticks all the right boxes? Football fan, plenty of cash, lives in Sussex blah blah..

As someone whose 'second team' is Birmingham City (I was born in Warwickshire and my father took me to St.Andrews from a pretty young age) I have plenty of family/friends who still go there. They see Gold as a good man, someone who came in when the Blues were at a real low.

Gold is not some jonny come lately who wants to jump on the bandwagon that is football simply to make money. He has enough money. He is a football fan. Yes, I am sure he would like to make money from the Albion, but deep down he must realise that there are VERY few Clubs that actually make a profit. (Unless he got us into the Prem and sell us on )

Ok so he might not support the Albion - but people with businesses valued at £500 million who do support the Albion are few and far between - after all where have they been in the past 10 years?

I for one hope the takeover of the Blues goes through smoothly, and that he then has the chance to TALK to DK about where we go from here.

a sensible post - as long as he doesn't hire Barry Fry

 

[dougdeep]

David Gold has a ridiculours "beard". Do we really want facial hair like that at Falmer?

Yes, yes we do. :mushy:

 

[ROSM]

Can we have Liquid Gold?

Dance yourself Dizzy, this is dynamite
And baby we could be dancing, back to back tonight:dance:

 

[portslade seagull]

Thank you it is nice to occassionally be praised rather than always be the f***ing idiot or at least perceived as such. I know that I do ocassionally post controversial points to test the water but I do speak sense some of the time and do really have BHA interests in my heart.

I believe that this is our way forward, whether it be with David Gold or somebody else but I would rather it be an English/British man with legitimate business interests, whatever that may be, than a far east corporation or even an eastern european using us to launder his money.

Totally agree..the big premier clubs are fast selling their greedy soles and ther will be more teams going bust like leeds amongst them as well

 

[NMH]

Much as i agree with your sentiment I believe that yiou are taking 'glass half empty ' view of this. The only way that we are going to achieve premiership status, which must be the aim of every club, is with a massive injection of cash and with his comes the probability that the person injecting bthis woyuld want control of their assets and money, which is only right and natural.

Nobody knows what the next of kin of any body DKI included would do in the possioble death of the person incharge. DK is older than David Gold so the likelehood of passing away sooner is greater.

If we reach the premiership and he, or whoever, decides to sell, so be it but atleast we will have experienced top flight football again without the prospect of going broke. As regards Ken Bates, Archer etc until that happens nobody knows exactly what the man has intentions of, you can only take them on their past record and face value and in this case David Gold fits the picture as well as and better than most.

First paragraph;- even if the major investor wanted control, in the case of our club (I could give a rats ass about what other clubs do) they should be made to enter into a binding contract that prevents them from complete control - and even of their own assets! No taking their money out of the club wholesale, no selling to another investor without pre-approval of the new investor.

Second;- DK dying is not even in the equation. He is the person who saved the club, we have no choice of a safety-net in case of his own demise. He is our 'ground zero' from which the club can be rebuilt. For another investor though, it is pertinent to create safety nets and insurances.

Third;- I'm trying to say this, over and over again - no total control in the hands of one person, and whether we win the Prem, Champions League and FA Cup or languish in the lowest division, NO one man can possibly 'lose' the club, sell it to malevolent parties, or liquidate club assets. IF they DON'T agree to such binding terms with their 'big big money', they can take it elsewhere or stick it where sun don't shine.

Rancid stench of desperation and money-hunger is no way right for this club to start displaying, after making it through so much shite. The wolves have good sense of smell, and The Albion should never again be 'prey'.