Forster says players are behind Adams..

[hans kraay fan club]

Sorry, my bad.

 

[BigGully]

We're discussing the thread title!!!!

You proclaimed that Adams had a better relationship with the players than Wilkins, I want to know why you feel that is relevant bearing in mind it has not translated into any points for us.

 

[Elder for England]

Threads evolve.

Anyway - the fact that we are currently one point from the drop zone, surely IS relevant to a discussion on whether the players 'respect' Adams. If they respect him, they'd do as he tells them. Asuming they ARE doing as he tells them, then what he 's being telling them is clearly not all that useful.

In my opinion, respecting Adams has little to do with how they play on the pitch, I do think it's very much down to confidence. I do feel, as I said earlier that fans got on the backs of Adams and the players too quickly and as a result it has created such a negative feeling at the club (I'm not saying fans are entirely to blame because that would be ridiculous). Ok so we hadn't won four home games, disapointing but it really didn't deserve the kind of abuse that came from it. Instead of what was a bad patch of games has now knocked the confidence of the players so much that this bad run has continued.

 

[Elder for England]

You proclaimed that Adams had a better relationship with the players than Wilkins, I want to know why you feel that is relevant bearing in mind it has not translated into any points for us.

It was a statement. End of.

 

[Don Quixote]

In my opinion, respecting Adams has little to do with how they play on the pitch, I do think it's very much down to confidence. I do feel, as I said earlier that fans got on the backs of Adams and the players too quickly and as a result it has created such a negative feeling at the club (I'm not saying fans are entirely to blame because that would be ridiculous). Ok so we hadn't won four home games, disapointing but it really didn't deserve the kind of abuse that came from it. Instead of what was a bad patch of games has now knocked the confidence of the players so much that this bad run has continued.

I think it is because the board and the media whipped up the idea that micky was the "messiah" and that we would somehow be undefeated all season. When people realised that we were actually shit they felt hard done by.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Forster's comments are fair enough, up to a point.

The issue I have is the point about "the fans need to be patient". Why do we need to be patient? Under Wilkins we saw steady progress across 2 seasons. Logically, this this should be a season where we're in/around the Top 6.

Telling the fans to be patient is what we were told by Wilkins, quite rightly, 2 years ago. The 'patience' card is being played here as an excuse.

Pretty much all of the players brought in by Adams were Chamionship/premiership players coming into an already decent squad that had just finished 7th. Where does patience come into that?? Is Forster saying it's natural and to be expected to be 19th spot in the table??

To me it's not about ability, it's about hunger. It concerns me that our captain is asking for patience when he himself knows its the players who've let the fans and the manager down.

I think Adams needs to take a good look at this squad and decide who REALLY wants it.

 

[Mendoza]

In my opinion, respecting Adams has little to do with how they play on the pitch, I do think it's very much down to confidence. I do feel, as I said earlier that fans got on the backs of Adams and the players too quickly and as a result it has created such a negative feeling at the club (I'm not saying fans are entirely to blame because that would be ridiculous). Ok so we hadn't won four home games, disapointing but it really didn't deserve the kind of abuse that came from it. Instead of what was a bad patch of games has now knocked the confidence of the players so much that this bad run has continued.

It is hard to understand the fans knocking the team theory and the bad run.

All away games, the fans support the team sing their hearts out, and apart from Carlisle, have always applauded the team off the pitch, and not booed the team.

Home games are a different kettle of fish, with moans starting from the first mistake of the game, not much singing, and not much vocal support of the team. But our best run of form has come when we have had FIVE home games in a row. Yet we go away and play crap and lose again, despite the clear vocal support from the fans

 

[Da Man Clay]

exactly, saying that we played well at the start of the season is completely stupid. We beat barnet, league 2, crewe, worst club in the division and 10 man southend... wow!

Well given we hadn't won at Crewe for 50 odd years, and showed some fight spirit we NEVER showed with Wilkins people were pleased. We also hardly ever win at Soutend, defended well and earned a good win up there.

Regardless of how shite we have been since we played pretty well back then!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I do feel, as I said earlier that fans got on the backs of Adams and the players too quickly and as a result it has created such a negative feeling at the club (I'm not saying fans are entirely to blame because that would be ridiculous). Ok so we hadn't won four home games, disapointing but it really didn't deserve the kind of abuse that came from it. Instead of what was a bad patch of games has now knocked the confidence of the players so much that this bad run has continued.

Firstly, you say 'Hadn't won in 4', I say 'failed to create a single chance in open play against Orient and Bristol Rovers, got hammered by Scunthorpe, and then lost to NINE men, in the single most embarrassing day in my thirty years of watching the club'.

It was a little worse than you try to make it sound. What did you axpect after the Walsall game? 'Three cheers for Micky and his brave boys'? 'Bad luck chaps, better luck next time, Ra Ra'?

And they're proffessional footballers. If a little criticism knocks them so far back into their shells that they're devoid of confidence for another 12 games, they're in the wrong jobs. And so is their manager.

 

[Elder for England]

It is hard to understand the fans knocking the team theory and the bad run.

All away games, the fans support the team sing their hearts out, and apart from Carlisle, have always applauded the team off the pitch, and not booed the team.

Home games are a different kettle of fish, with moans starting from the first mistake of the game, not much singing, and not much vocal support of the team. But our best run of form has come when we have had FIVE home games in a row. Yet we go away and play crap and lose again, despite the clear vocal support from the fans

I'm not talking about vocal support!! Knee-jerk reactions, wanting Adams out, fans turning on players far too early etc.. You can't deny the complete negativity surrounding the club at the moment, and this started back in September!! The fans didn't want to give the team or Adams time, but instead were increasingly negative and it's all gone down hill from there.

 

[Elder for England]

Firstly, you say 'Hadn't won in 4', I say 'failed to create a single chance in open play against Orient and Bristol Rovers, got hammered by Scunthorpe, and then lost to NINE men, in the single most embarrassing day in my thirty years of watching the club'.

It was a little worse than you try to make it sound. What did you axpect after the Walsall game? 'Three cheers for Micky and his brave boys'? 'Bad luck chaps, better luck next time, Ra Ra'?

And they're proffessional footballers. If a little criticism knocks them so far back into their shells that they're devoid of confidence for another 12 games, they're in the wrong jobs. And so is their manager.

I really can't talk or have a constructive conversaion with someone that makes comments like these, I never said we should congratulate them.

Of course, they're all grown men, but you're not telling me that some of outragous criticsm that has been said isn't going to make them less confident for many of the forseeable games?

Lets end it there, never going to agree.

 

[Pavilionaire]

When a decent club servant is sacked in mysterious circumstances having done well in the previous 2 seasons the fans can be forgiven for being suspicious of what happens thereafter.

Adams needed to hit the ground running, and stay in/around the Top 6. With the squad he inherited and the players he was able to bring in this should have been perfectly possible. The bookies had us around 9th spot pre-season.

It's hard not to be negative. Our home record is shite, barring the Johnstone's Paint Trophy the season is virtually a write-off and almost every prospect we've had thru the ranks has regressed under Adams. The players owe the manager and the fans a hot December.

 

[Don Quixote]

When a decent club servant is sacked in mysterious circumstances having done well in the previous 2 seasons the fans can be forgiven for being suspicious of what happens thereafter.

Adams needed to hit the ground running, and stay in/around the Top 6. With the squad he inherited and the players he was able to bring in this should have been perfectly possible. The bookies had us around 9th spot pre-season.

It's hard not to be negative. Our home record is shite, barring the Johnstone's Paint Trophy the season is virtually a write-off and almost every prospect we've had thru the ranks has regressed under Adams. The players owe the manager and the fans a hot December.

yeah i remember people saying the bookies were right knobs as the odds on us comming second were so low. However i think the odds on us going down were pretty unpresedented...

 

[Perry Milkins]

I think it is because the board and the media whipped up the idea that micky was the "messiah" and that we would somehow be undefeated all season. When people realised that we were actually shit they felt hard done by.

I am sure that we, that fans, did all the whipping up.

 

[Mendoza]

I'm not talking about vocal support!! Knee-jerk reactions, wanting Adams out, fans turning on players far too early etc.. You can't deny the complete negativity surrounding the club at the moment, and this started back in September!! The fans didn't want to give the team or Adams time, but instead were increasingly negative and it's all gone down hill from there.

So you are saying that from what people have written on HERE (yes it was very negative) the players have been playing shit/Micky has been making questionable decisions, despite being vocally supported at games?

I dont not believe for one minute the players performances are effected for the good or bad by what is written on here. They have been playing badly becuase the have not been given a clear direction by the manager, and dont appear to have the desire to pull themselves out of this mess (but things can change, and I hope so soon)

 

[hans kraay fan club]

yeah i remember people saying the bookies were right knobs as the odds on us comming second were so low. However i think the odds on us going down were pretty unpresedented...

What were the odds on us going down. Do you think Adams put a few quid on it?

























This IS a joke, before Elder for England WHINES about it.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I'd say NSC sees things in a more rose-tinted hue than the average Albion fan, but I remember the pre-season poll done on where we'd finish and most seemed to think 6th - 9th. Therefore, it is a myth to claim the fans expected automatic promotion and Brazilian football.

 

[Don Quixote]

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What were the odds on us going down. Do you think Adams put a few quid on it?
























This IS a joke, before Elder for England WHINES about it.

I'm not sure what the odds were... but i would imagine they would be at least 1-10 now

 

[Screaming J]

This shower of players is one of the worst , if not the worst in 35 years I have watched BHAFC in terms of ability and actually giving a shit.

I remember a cold miserable night at Rochdale in 96/7 when we lost 3-0. That was probably the absolute nadir for me. How anyone can say that the squad now is worse, ability wise, than what we had then or indeed during the two seasons we were at Gillingham is, quite frankly, beyond comprehension!!

 

[O Lads]

Forster can f*** right off as far as I am concerned. The players have let the manager down HUGELY. Every single one has been under preforming all season. They have bene taking the manager and the board and the fans for a ride. I am ashamed of this team at the moment. Not because we are shit but because they are not fit to wear the shirt , not a single one of them. I would ship the whole lot out and start again if I could.

And to say we have been playing well is the problem, no we haven't and we need to realise that pdq. Forster is a licker, always has been , always will be. This shower of players is one of the worst , if not the worst in 35 years I have watched BHAFC in terms of ability and actually giving a shit.

If that's not completely blind & biased faith in Adams then I don't know what is.

Don't get me wrong, I'm behind Adams as the long term manager to take us forward, but that is complete bollocks.