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[Franks Wild Years]

Following on from Cadiz Seagull's post, IMHO at the end of the day the elephant in the room for FPC is The Stadium and they will vent their spleens until the cows come home. Rather than seeing the Stadium as a gift horse they would rather it turned out to be a massive white elephant and all this talk of apeal is simply a red herring. To them we are the black sheep (in wolves clothing) and in their minds football supporters will always be hooligans and leopards never change their spots. We could do with a mole on our side, someone who could worm their way into their affections and effect a change of heart.
So lets not act like lemmings and jump on the badmouthing bandwagon. Lets hold our heads high and be gracious in victory and prove that the lion really can lie down with the sheep.
Enough carping from me, time to get my nose back to the grindstone and try and earn an honest crust.

 

[London Calling]

One of the most sensible posts for a long time

We don't need more pressure or abuse piled on to FPC. They have a legal right - indeed a duty - to make their decision. If they want to do it quietly in private I personally don't have a problem with that. As long as they think about it rationally they will almost certainly come to the decision (even though they may not like it) that appealing would be fruitless. And I would hope that the club have made some overtures to them to say that they will work with them to make sure things go as smoothly as possible for everyone. I know this has been said in public by Dick but I would also hope he or someone else has said it in private to FPC.

Lord B, who not only knows about these things but also has a beard, so he must be right, has said that any aggro will only make an appeal more likely. We should take note of that, even though name calling and getting things of our chest may make us feel better.

At the end of any argument, dispute, or even a war, the losers needs to be allowed to save face, not have their noses rubbed in it (if I haven't mixed my metaphors).

Elected officials just can't agree to that type of money, without a public debate and to use the issue of "someone on NSC slagged us of" cannot justify that decision.

The exception to the meeting Lord B refered to, should only been an exception to that part of the meeting, it is common practice. But the majority of Council meetings, are public. In addition, if the Council are listening to paid legal advice, that does not need to be done in a public meeting and I would be very surprised if that did occur.

Basically, IMO, if that can't raise the cash they won't appeal and where on earth are they going to raise that level of cash from? Even a sum of £50,000 would be hard to obtain.

To reinterate Lord B point about the Govt, using the best advisors we just used the top Planning Barrister in the Country to get a CPO agreed (planning Enquiry)for the Olympic Games, he was also the Barrister who led the Planning Enquiry for the T5. He also advised the Govt on much of the Planning Enquiry legislation.

He earns more in 4 days than I do in a year!!!!!

 

[Goodfella]

An interesting post by James, the Falmer Village resident.

 

[Seagull73]

An interesting post by James, the Falmer Village resident.

 

[TSB]

I can't imagine many thugs would be nuclear arms dealers.

Do you want me to wander over to building 1 and give you a clip round the ear for being silly?

Maybe not, but it's still 'threatening behaviour' isn't it?

Go for it....got to be less painful than working today!

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think they will almost certainly appeal regardless of what anyone says on here. They are a vindictive , ill informed, bigotted, nimby, undemocratic bunch beneath contempt. They have got off very lightly indeed so far after delaying things for 2 years and counting and now they may have their moment of glory in the High Courts and delays things another year but I hope they have deep pockets and they can expect the full fury, I mean full fury of Albion supporters everywhere, no gloves will come off. I/We have waited 10 years so whats another year, if it bankrupts some of them it will almost have made it worth it. No bring it on as Easy says. I am not gping to suck up to these idiots and even if we did it would not make 1 iota of difference to them appealing which they will do whilst they have a breath in the bodies. That is my opinion only.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

And lets be quiet clear what the agenda is here, the LDC agenda and the agenda of FPC and their cronies is to damage beyond repair BHAFC, to make them bankrupt and cease to exist, then the stadium is an irrelevance, now they have delayed things by 2 years costing us a relegation, gates are falling, the club lost over £ 1 000 000 last year and interest is understandably waining all the time we sit in a shite heap in the pouring rain watching crap football as we do not have the facilities or finances to attract good managers and good players, if FPC can delay it for another 2 years, thats 2 more years nearer the precipice and who knows if they delay things 5 years they may achieve their objectives of destroying BHAFC. Now if 50 of them stump up £ 5000 knowing they are pissing their money up the wall but the delays may cause terminal damage to the club they will be well up for it. That is what we are dealing with, so excuse me but I am not going to suck up to them. Damn them Damn them to Hell.

 

[Woodchip]

Speak your mind US, speak your mind.

Could this be the longest sentence on NSC
And lets be quiet clear what the agenda is here, the LDC agenda and the agenda of FPC and their cronies is to damage beyond repair BHAFC, to make them bankrupt and cease to exist, then the stadium is an irrelevance, now they have delayed things by 2 years costing us a relegation, gates are falling, the club lost over £ 1 000 000 last year and interest is understandably waining all the time we sit in a shite heap in the pouring rain watching crap football as we do not have the facilities or finances to attract good managers and good players, if FPC can delay it for another 2 years, thats 2 more years nearer the precipice and who knows if they delay things 5 years they may achieve their objectives of destroying BHAFC

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Possibly Woodchip. Thats why I am not a politician and Ed is as I would just tell them all to feck off and storm out of the room.

 

[antifalmer]

And I'm still waiting on a FURTHER reply from B&HCC about the costs. Taking their bloody time. 5 minutes my arse.

The quotes over the last few days are nothing to do with me. Unfortunately, the Argus website doesn't do security.

As for the 5 minutes, that's all it took me to ask for the information, and 30 seconds to read the written reply. You guys are clearly doing something wrong.

As for my view on Blears decision, it is obvious that the SoS will use their discretion to agree to the development regardless of the regulations. She makes it clear in the decision letter that the development will harm the AONB, there are way too many parking spaces etc., but still gives the go-ahead, so it is obvious that any further resistance is a waste of time. As I understand it, even if FPC take it to court and show the decision to be a politically-motivated decision that completely ignores the rules, then it can still be given the go-ahead if the SoS has no shame. As having no shame appears to be a basic political requirement of the job, any further challenges are futile.

 

[The Large One]

The quotes over the last few days are nothing to do with me. Unfortunately, the Argus website doesn't do security.

As for the 5 minutes, that's all it took me to ask for the information, and 30 seconds to read the written reply. You guys are clearly doing something wrong.

As for my view on Blears decision, it is obvious that the SoS will use their discretion to agree to the development regardless of the regulations. She makes it clear in the decision letter that the development will harm the AONB, there are way too many parking spaces etc., but still gives the go-ahead, so it is obvious that any further resistance is a waste of time. As I understand it, even if FPC take it to court and show the decision to be a politically-motivated decision that completely ignores the rules, then it can still be given the go-ahead if the SoS has no shame. As having no shame appears to be a basic political requirement of the job, any further challenges are futile.

Of course it was politically motivated, you numpty. Social inclusion and urban re-generation are two major political issues that the government wants to promote.

 

[paddy]

Of course the Court can throw an appeal out. But it would take MONTHS (at least) for the Court to get around to deciding that.

As for the parish element of council tax - that is a matter for the parish council itself to decide. LDC have no say in the matter.

I may be wrong but does every application to the High Court have to approved by a High Court Judge before it can even be considered an appeal. Surely if the appeal was just delaying tactics, the judge would identify there was no legal substance in about 10 minutes and deny it.

 

[Goodfella]

I may be wrong but does every application to the High Court have to approved by a High Court Judge before it can even be considered an appeal. Surely if the appeal was just delaying tactics, the judge would identify there was no legal substance in about 10 minutes and deny it.

That is why they will NOT make an appeal, but prob delay right up until Sept 4th.

I can wait another 27 days.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Very helpful....it's not like 'nuke' ing the village would kill everybody within a 100 mile radius, is it?!

Good point, I suggest NAPALM

 

[Brovion]

I think they will almost certainly appeal regardless of what anyone says on here. They are a vindictive , ill informed, bigotted, nimby, undemocratic bunch beneath contempt. They have got off very lightly indeed so far after delaying things for 2 years and counting and now they may have their moment of glory in the High Courts and delays things another year but I hope they have deep pockets and they can expect the full fury, I mean full fury of Albion supporters everywhere, no gloves will come off. I/We have waited 10 years so whats another year, if it bankrupts some of them it will almost have made it worth it. No bring it on as Easy says. I am not gping to suck up to these idiots and even if we did it would not make 1 iota of difference to them appealing which they will do whilst they have a breath in the bodies. That is my opinion only.

My opinion as well. Top, top ranting U.S.

PS - I see antifalmer's come back!

 

[paddy]

I think they will almost certainly appeal regardless of what anyone says on here. They are a vindictive , ill informed, bigotted, nimby, undemocratic bunch beneath contempt. They have got off very lightly indeed so far after delaying things for 2 years and counting and now they may have their moment of glory in the High Courts and delays things another year but I hope they have deep pockets and they can expect the full fury, I mean full fury of Albion supporters everywhere, no gloves will come off. I/We have waited 10 years so whats another year, if it bankrupts some of them it will almost have made it worth it. No bring it on as Easy says. I am not gping to suck up to these idiots and even if we did it would not make 1 iota of difference to them appealing which they will do whilst they have a breath in the bodies. That is my opinion only.

Why should we play fair if their playing dirty.

 

[Easy 10]

The quotes over the last few days are nothing to do with me. Unfortunately, the Argus website doesn\'t do security.

As for the 5 minutes, that\'s all it took me to ask for the information, and 30 seconds to read the written reply. You guys are clearly doing something wrong.

To be honest Septic, I kind of suspected that was the case on the latest Argus quotes attributed to your name, which is why I didnt bother responding to them on there. You;re sly and misguided, but it was too blatantly straightforward \"wind-up\" material to have been you. You deliberately plant misinformation and lies all over the shop, but the \"yaa-boo sucks\" type gloating has never quite been your style (nor mine).

Not interested in the rest of your Blears blather, but you;re still clearly lying on having obtained B&HCCs figures on their public inquiry costs. If you had them, and were confident in them, you;d have published them by now and salvaged some semblance of credibility by actually sticking your neck out and saying \"actually, so-and-so has provided me with THESE figures\".

I;m waiting on a reply from Chris Mortimer at B&HCC. Who exactly did YOU correspond with ?

*awaits inevitable dodge*

 

[bhaexpress]

Good point, I suggest NAPALM

That's quite ridiculous, these people are very concerned about the upkeep of the countryside. It has to be liquid manure surely ?>

 

[antifalmer]

Of course it was politically motivated, you numpty. Social inclusion and urban re-generation are two major political issues that the government wants to promote.

I have said that I accept the decision, even though I don't agree with it - what more do you want?

But if you really want to share your brain like a planet, perhaps you can answer the following:

What is the difference between development and re-generation? What is being re-generated in East Brighton, in other words, what was once there, is either gone or is in decline, and is now being re-generated?

Why do the unemployed residents of East Brighton choose not to accept unskilled jobs in B&H despite them being available? Why will they choose the unskilled stadium jobs BTW? The uniform or something?

Love your posts by the way - they keep me amused for hours.

 

[bhaexpress]

What is the difference between development and re-generation? What is being re-generated in East Brighton, in other words, what was once there, is either gone or is in decline, and is now being re-generated?

Why do the unemployed residents of East Brighton choose not to accept unskilled jobs in B&H despite them being available? Why will they choose the unskilled stadium jobs BTW? The uniform or something?

Ahhh, there, there, is your job at MacDonald's making you lonely then ? Anyway, you'll have to excuse TLO as he;s just another one of the 20,000 thugs we keep reading about. Of course we'll need a larger stadium to accommodate these thugs despite the fact that many of your ilk keep questioning why we need such a 'big' stadium.