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Dover

Home at Last.
Oct 5, 2003
4,474
Brighton, United Kingdom
Don't worry. They will lose. If they have to fight, they will have to find their own money from what ever source they can find. Or at least that is my understanding.

Can anyone recommend a rubbish mortgage advisor to set up shop in Falmer Village.
 




Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
I have to agree that some of the posts here on Nsc do make me feel very uncomfortable and don't forget that FPC do read this board.
They also used these posts to try and get Roz arrested for harassment because as a moderator, she didn't delete them.

I know a lot of people think I am a middle aged busybody but please be careful what you post about Falmer people.
Good, I hope they know the bad feeling that THEY are causing with their dishonest underhand tactics. It will be their own fault when they start finding floaters in thier soon to be piss ridden rat infested shitty little pond
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Of course the Court can throw an appeal out. But it would take MONTHS (at least) for the Court to get around to deciding that.

As for the parish element of council tax - that is a matter for the parish council itself to decide. LDC have no say in the matter.


So, in theory then, FPC could fight it regardless of the costs and raise parish tax by £500 or £1000 or whatever?

In fact, could they fight it anyway and if they lose just refuse to repay the costs. As Lord B has pointed out, councillors can no longer be surcharged so it couldn't be their money that they were losing - if that were the case it wouldn't matter how expensive the government lawyers were. Even if the bill were £2m, FPC would say "We're not paying it" and there's sod all the government or its lawyers could do about it.
 


balloonboy

aka Jim in the West
Jan 6, 2004
1,100
Way out West
As difficult as it is to do so, we need to at least TRY to look at things from their perspective. Rightly or wrongly (well, wrongly, to be honest) they have concerns that the stadium will bring 20,000 rioting thugs rampaging into their village every fortnight. They are BOUND to want to explore every possible angle to stop or delay this happening. As a bunch of fans, I think we are second to none in terms of peaceful protest, and will be well-behaved and thoroughly decent neighbours come 2010. As Lord B indicates, it doesn't do our cause any good at the moment to be antagonistic.
 


Of course the Court can throw an appeal out. But it would take MONTHS (at least) for the Court to get around to deciding that.

As for the parish element of council tax - that is a matter for the parish council itself to decide. LDC have no say in the matter.

But to raise that sort of levy - £250,000 for a parish council.

I believe all Councils have the right to raise precepts, ie raise the level of a local tax mid term, but it is very rare nowadays and doesn't the SoS have to agree to it.

Plus who locally would really agree to it, that would work out £500-£1000 extra for every Falmer household?

Otherwise they will not be able to raise the funds legally until they set new rates for April 2008 onwards.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,411
Location Location
And thats a HELL of an amount to raise just purely to incur another delay and have it referred back to the S of S. Unless they think they;ve found something so drastic that it could actually mean the decision being reversed.

But if there was anything THAT drastic, surely LDC would have seized on it.
I;m not worried.
 


severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,825
By the seaside in West Somerset
All crucial stuff for the residents of Falmer and for the Albion and I have no doubt that the correct (probably the only realistic) decision will be made eventually whether in secret or not - we will all get to know about it soon enough


But what about the holly tree..................I need to know what was decided?
:shrug:
 








The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
Lord B, before sending anything to the High Court by way of a challenge, do (in this instance) FPC have to prove to <whoever it is they have to prove these things to> that they have the funds to cover the cost of what would be an horrendous defeat BEFORE they can lodge their 'challenge'?
 


Yoda

English & European
But we're the thugs. Are you sure it wasn't an Albion fan using threatening behaviour?

And did he have a baseball bat in his knuckle dragging hands saying 'Ug' at the end of the sentence? After all, that's what all we football fans are 'meant' to be like according to the NIMBYs.
 






hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,759
Chandlers Ford
Could we forewarn the Albion director who lives there before we fire it?
 










As difficult as it is to do so, we need to at least TRY to look at things from their perspective. Rightly or wrongly (well, wrongly, to be honest) they have concerns that the stadium will bring 20,000 rioting thugs rampaging into their village every fortnight. They are BOUND to want to explore every possible angle to stop or delay this happening. As a bunch of fans, I think we are second to none in terms of peaceful protest, and will be well-behaved and thoroughly decent neighbours come 2010. As Lord B indicates, it doesn't do our cause any good at the moment to be antagonistic.

One of the most sensible posts for a long time :clap2:

We don't need more pressure or abuse piled on to FPC. They have a legal right - indeed a duty - to make their decision. If they want to do it quietly in private I personally don't have a problem with that. As long as they think about it rationally they will almost certainly come to the decision (even though they may not like it) that appealing would be fruitless. And I would hope that the club have made some overtures to them to say that they will work with them to make sure things go as smoothly as possible for everyone. I know this has been said in public by Dick but I would also hope he or someone else has said it in private to FPC.

Lord B, who not only knows about these things but also has a beard, so he must be right, has said that any aggro will only make an appeal more likely. We should take note of that, even though name calling and getting things of our chest may make us feel better.

At the end of any argument, dispute, or even a war, the losers needs to be allowed to save face, not have their noses rubbed in it (if I haven't mixed my metaphors).
 










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