[Albion] Fab OUT

[DJ NOBO]

Bloom says Albion are hungry for European return as club and city mark special season

Tony Bloom spoke of his appetite for more European football as the club and city marked Albion's debut UEFA season

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Bloom believes Albion can get straight back into Europe -

Tony Bloom makes no secret of his ambition.

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Yeah, but apart from that

 

[Han Solo]

A point away against a West Ham that has looked good last couple of weeks. Hardly end of the world (unlike a draw against Southampton).

 

[AstroSloth]

Not being funny but how many more midfielders do we have to sign before people will stop saying we haven't replaced Mwepu?

We must have signed about 10 central midfielders in that time, and Mwepu was never much more than a peripheral player.

Mwepu was growing into a first team starter at the time.

Last season we signed Baleba, Dahoud and Milner.

Baleba took a year to develop, Dahoud doesn't play for us anymore and Milner is always injured.

This season we signed Wieffer, O'Riley, Yalcouye and Gomez.

Wieffer and O'Riley have had injury issues, Yalcouye was loaned out and Gomez isn't here yet.

 

[A1X]

Said it on the match thread but the Brentford game could be potentially job defining for him

The only way this is true is if we lose 10-0, Fab punches Lewis Dunk in the centre circle, sticks his middle finger up at the directors box and gives everyone in the crowd a lid for their bottle.

 

[BadFish]

The only way this is true is if we lose 10-0, Fab punches Lewis Dunk in the centre circle, sticks his middle finger up at the directors box and gives everyone in the crowd a lid for their bottle.

Quite, thankfully Tony has more sense than some of our supporters.

 

[BevBHA]

The only way this is true is if we lose 10-0, Fab punches Lewis Dunk in the centre circle, sticks his middle finger up at the directors box and gives everyone in the crowd a lid for their bottle.

I didn’t mean he’ll get the sack after the game. I mean I think it will turn many fans from fence to out, which will naturally make the atmosphere more tense and it will start to go downhill

 

[portlock seagull]

Mwepu was growing into a first team starter at the time.

Last season we signed Baleba, Dahoud and Milner.

Baleba took a year to develop, Dahoud doesn't play for us anymore and Milner is always injured.

This season we signed Wieffer, O'Riley, Yalcouye and Gomez.

Wieffer and O'Riley have had injury issues, Yalcouye was loaned out and Gomez isn't here yet.

I don’t understand the point here because injured player signings are, well, injured. Players improving will be sold if they get better, or sold and dropped if they don’t. Footballs about one season, this season, at any given moment. Waiting for some magic moment for all and sundry to develop (over several seasons) into their best game together is pure fantasy for a club like us. If we’re lucky, it clicks the same season we buy ‘em as 1st teamers. Rarely do you get two seasons of brilliance from the same set because Chelsea and co will gut you.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

how long would you give him?

He has the season of course but it is all very average now with the squad he has. No win in 5. He just appears in interviews very dull and complacent. He trots the same thing every time. Just becoming a rather boring coach imo. Really miss the fireworks of Roberto good or bad and generally good, that bloke inspired you, Fabian is just meh

 

[BevBHA]

He has the season of course but it is all very average now with the squad he has. No win in 5. He just appears in interviews very dull and complacent. He trots the same thing every time. Just becoming a rather boring coach imo. Really miss the fireworks of Roberto good or bad and generally good, that bloke inspired you, Fabian is just meh

This is what’s missing for me. I believe a big part of the modern game now for coaches is building the relationship between players and fans. 20 years ago it was there naturally because players gave a toss and played for the shirt. But now every player in the league being on £30k+ a week, most of them millionaires and it leaves a real disconnect unless it’s built. Look at what Klopp did, even smaller clubs like Brentford with Frank, they all have great connections with the fans, so the fans give them that little bit extra each week.

De Zerbi was that for me. He lived and breathed it, kicked and headed every ball, screamed for every decision and was fiery as hell in his interviews. I loved that because he was passionate about the club and the connection was there.

I just find Fabian extremely placid and boring. It’s really hard for me as a fan to be motivated by him from his interviews or sitting in his chair on the sidelines. I think he has to change this to succeed in the English game, because fans here are not just mental singing all game like they do abroad, unfortunately.

 

[dazzer6666]

This is what’s missing for me. I believe a big part of the modern game now for coaches is building the relationship between players and fans. 20 years ago it was there naturally because players gave a toss and played for the shirt. But now every player in the league being on £30k+ a week, most of them millionaires and it leaves a real disconnect unless it’s built. Look at what Klopp did, even smaller clubs like Brentford with Frank, they all have great connections with the fans, so the fans give them that little bit extra each week.

De Zerbi was that for me. He lived and breathed it, kicked and headed every ball, screamed for every decision and was fiery as hell in his interviews. I loved that because he was passionate about the club and the connection was there.

I just find Fabian extremely placid and boring. It’s really hard for me as a fan to be motivated by him from his interviews or sitting in his chair on the sidelines. I think he has to change this to succeed in the English game, because fans here are not just mental singing all game like they do abroad, unfortunately.

He absolutely lived it until he royally ****ed it up in Rome. After that he was an angry, petulant bellend. I’ll take placid in the long term over that any day, and be far more concerned about the manager’s relationship with the players and coaching staff than the fans.

 

[Zeberdi]

He has the season of course but it is all very average now with the squad he has. No win in 5. He just appears in interviews very dull and complacent. He trots the same thing every time. Just becoming a rather boring coach imo. Really miss the fireworks of Roberto good or bad and generally good, that bloke inspired you, Fabian is just meh

We are (as Premier League Clubs go) a pretty average team - we are mid table at best - that is not a reflection of either the owner nor the manager or squad but of our size and relative wealth in a pool where we are competing against State sponsored Clubs.

Hürzeler to me comes across as exactly the sort of manager we should be working with - willing to learn from others, respectful of the Club, the players as individuals, cognisant of our history and a genuine commitment to constantly improve our football.

I don’t need or want a manager to ’inspire me’ - I want to be inspired by the football we play and despite some lack lustre performances this season, I still am inspired. As I am inspired daily almost by how we have an owner like Tony Bloom who lives and breathes the ongoing development and progression of the Club.

 

[BadFish]

This is what’s missing for me. I believe a big part of the modern game now for coaches is building the relationship between players and fans. 20 years ago it was there naturally because players gave a toss and played for the shirt. But now every player in the league being on £30k+ a week, most of them millionaires and it leaves a real disconnect unless it’s built. Look at what Klopp did, even smaller clubs like Brentford with Frank, they all have great connections with the fans, so the fans give them that little bit extra each week.

De Zerbi was that for me. He lived and breathed it, kicked and headed every ball, screamed for every decision and was fiery as hell in his interviews. I loved that because he was passionate about the club and the connection was there.

I just find Fabian extremely placid and boring. It’s really hard for me as a fan to be motivated by him from his interviews or sitting in his chair on the sidelines. I think he has to change this to succeed in the English game, because fans here are not just mental singing all game like they do abroad, unfortunately.

If our fans need a passionate manager who wears his heart on his sleeve to get fully invested in the team then perhaps it is a fan problem as much as a manager problem.

This also may be true for you but I wonder if it is consistent across the fan base? My guess is there are many who preferred Highton to Poyet.

FwIW I prefer the poyet or DeZerbi type of manager but having a Highton or Fab style coach doesn't really effect my relationship with the team or club.

I find it a bit odd that we have fans that it does make a significant difference to.

 

[American Seagle]

This is what’s missing for me. I believe a big part of the modern game now for coaches is building the relationship between players and fans. 20 years ago it was there naturally because players gave a toss and played for the shirt. But now every player in the league being on £30k+ a week, most of them millionaires and it leaves a real disconnect unless it’s built. Look at what Klopp did, even smaller clubs like Brentford with Frank, they all have great connections with the fans, so the fans give them that little bit extra each week.

De Zerbi was that for me. He lived and breathed it, kicked and headed every ball, screamed for every decision and was fiery as hell in his interviews. I loved that because he was passionate about the club and the connection was there.

I just find Fabian extremely placid and boring. It’s really hard for me as a fan to be motivated by him from his interviews or sitting in his chair on the sidelines. I think he has to change this to succeed in the English game, because fans here are not just mental singing all game like they do abroad, unfortunately.

If the only thing that gets you motivated and passionate about the club is a manager that shouts and screams, then maybe you should consider what it is you are actually supporting and interested in.
Sounds to me like you are a fan of mangers not of clubs.

 

[Littlemo]

I don’t need or want a manager to ’inspire me’ - I want to be inspired by the football we play and despite some lack lustre performances this season, I still am inspired. As I am inspired daily almost by how we have an owner like Tony Bloom who lives and breathes the ongoing development and progression of the Club.

It doesn’t really matter how he comes across to the fans tbh. The worry might be is whether the players find him uninspiring and dull as well. That does matter.

 

[TheDuke]

Our team of expensive, exciting, off-the-wall flair players cannot be moulded into a robotic, well oiled, obedient machine.

 

[dazzer6666]

He has the season of course but it is all very average now with the squad he has. No win in 5. He just appears in interviews very dull and complacent. He trots the same thing every time. Just becoming a rather boring coach imo. Really miss the fireworks of Roberto good or bad and generally good, that bloke inspired you, Fabian is just meh

Being boring in his 10 minute a week scripted, tedious, clickbaity largely pointless interviews doesn’t make him a boring coach

 

[BevBHA]

If the only thing that gets you motivated and passionate about the club is a manager that shouts and screams, then maybe you should consider what it is you are actually supporting and interested in.
Sounds to me like you are a fan of mangers not of clubs.

Not at all. But for example when we get spanked at home to our rivals I’d like to see a pissed off angry manager. But we were told to trust the pwocess

 

[Justice]

This is what’s missing for me. I believe a big part of the modern game now for coaches is building the relationship between players and fans. 20 years ago it was there naturally because players gave a toss and played for the shirt. But now every player in the league being on £30k+ a week, most of them millionaires and it leaves a real disconnect unless it’s built. Look at what Klopp did, even smaller clubs like Brentford with Frank, they all have great connections with the fans, so the fans give them that little bit extra each week.

De Zerbi was that for me. He lived and breathed it, kicked and headed every ball, screamed for every decision and was fiery as hell in his interviews. I loved that because he was passionate about the club and the connection was there.

I just find Fabian extremely placid and boring. It’s really hard for me as a fan to be motivated by him from his interviews or sitting in his chair on the sidelines. I think he has to change this to succeed in the English game, because fans here are not just mental singing all game like they do abroad, unfortunately.

There is no doubt RDZ is a good manager he will stay in France for year or two and then will be at a massive club.
Saying that he wanted everything now he started to believe his own publicity and didn’t give a toss about the club that effectively put him on the world stage.

 

[dazzer6666]

Not at all. But for example when we get spanked at home to our rivals I’d like to see a pissed off angry manager. But we were told to trust the pwocess

I’d prefer to think the players see a pissed off angry manager behind closed doors, rather than someone playing to the gallery. No need to take the piss out of his English either. It’s light years better than the previous incumbent.

 

[portlock seagull]

The real issue isn’t Fab being boring. It’s all managers having to give pre and post match interviews every week according to media training doctrine. I switched ‘em off decades ago.