[Albion] Fab and Welbeck Fallout?

[marlowe]

I opened this thread expecting it to be about a mishap DW recently experienced with a well known ice lolly brand.

I wondered if perhaps while eating one some of the sprinklings had dropped off falling onto his favourite trousers causing an unsightly rainbow coloured stain, spoiling his enjoyment and that the title of the thread was a clever pun-based reference to the unfortunate incident.

I also knew that without a first hand ITK witness to the accident there would be certain posters who would be quick to pour scorn on the story as nothing but unsubstantiated rumour and would offer a much more innocent reason for the unsightly stain on the front of Danny's trousers.

 

[Hiheidi]

This could be highly feasible, Danny has played under some very experienced managers and has probably been damaged by a few a long his amazing trip to the Albion.
As a senior player in his twilight, you would say something if you felt Ferguson's treatment was hurting the player in one way or another. Let's look at some of the other unconfident players we are currently harbouring since FH arrival. Let's hope FH can spark all their confidence again like de Zerbi did.

Ferguson appeared to lose confidence/form last season under RDZ. It's not something new which has just happened since Hürzeler's appointment, the beginning of which he was injured.

 

[Commander]

I’d be disappointed if the squad were happy at the moment. I’d say a training ground bust up is surely fairly likely between somebody. But doesn’t mean this is true.

I should be seeing the guy who told me about Ferguson not getting on with RDZ in a week or so. I’ll ask him as he knows Evan fairly well.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

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[Bodian]

I largely agree with this and I do find Han Solo’s tactical analysis very interesting and informative.

I would not dream of interacting with him on here on the subject of politics or social issues.

Mind you there are a lot on here that fall into that second category for me and they do not have anything like the same football knowledge!

He's not actually meant to post on non-football threads - as part of his re-instatement to NSC.

 

[AlbionBro]

I think its feasible that Danny could have expressed some opinions or something but that they would have had a fight to the point of Welbeck being omitted from the squad... think you have to have pretty wild imagination.

Yes, I never ever thought any right handers would have been thrown, but maybe a few harsh words were said.

Ferguson appeared to lose confidence/form last season under RDZ. It's not something new which has just happened since Hürzeler's appointment, the beginning of which he was injured.

Yes he did drop off, but I feel it's the job of manager and coaches to get him back on his A game, it all looks like a bit confidence building is needed, he can not have lost his quality or strength. Let's hope to see him banging goals in for the Albion soon, because Pedro seems uninterested in showing his quality recently.

 

[Napper]

Also heard this from a pretty reliable source

Hurzeler going down in estimations

 

[timbha]

Also heard this from a pretty reliable source

Hurzeler going down in estimations

Don’t wish to be rude but that means nothing. Your source might be “pretty reliable” but what about his/her source?

 

[Seagull58]

One thing that I did find odd last night was that when the Brentford keeper was down injured, Mitoma and Estupinan both trotted over to the east touch line and took swigs of water. The stoppage was quite lengthy and yet in all that time standing a few feet from each other they didn’t talk once or even make eye contact. Not saying they’ve fallen out but it just seemed strange that they wouldn’t use that time for a chat given their partnership is one of the more important ones. Maybe it’s a language thing.

Pervis goes " Alright mate, what are you doing here" in an Ecuadorian accent, and Kaoru replies " Qué" in a Japanese one.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Also heard this from a pretty reliable source

Hurzeler going down in estimations

And every manager not doing well at the moment is "going down in estimation" and then, when they do well, they go up in estimation - sometimes in the same week! Twas ever thus.

 

[Hometownglory]

Basically, if this is true, which I doubt it is and Fab has managed to fall out with a model pro like DW and also upset a young EF, then questions would need to be asked.
I mean, I know Fab is inexperienced but upsetting the clubs only two strikers due to poor man management skills is a sackable offence in itself IMO. We ain't talking about primadonnas here, it's Danny Welbeck and Evan Ferguson ffs.

 

[peterward]

So many questions....

Earlier this month the ITK was that Welbeck was off to Man United. When did the fallout supposedly happen, before or after he decided to up and leave? Before or after his injury? Was he annoyed that Ferguson wasn't being used to replace him in whilst he was injured?

I also remember reading on here that Ferguson was unhappy with his treatment from RDZ. Did Welbeck not stick up for him then? Can't remember reading about him falling out with RDZ. Why have two managers in a row picked on Ferguson?

Why are there so many rumours about clubs that Ferguson could be loaned to (Fulham, West Ham, Leicester) that are our rivals - and with an injured or departed Welbeck and loaned out Ferguson - we'd be left with no striker.

In the situation that our rookie new manager has pissed off our only two strikers (one who is vital in the dressing room and on the pitch, and the other who has a huge price on his head), wouldn't the club step in? It's not like the Trossard situation where he was almost out of contract and we had his replacement already in place.

If their was an ounce of truth in the Man U rumours I still don't believe uncle Tone would let him walk in January.

It would be summer only.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Also heard this from a pretty reliable source

Hurzeler going down in estimations

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

This thread is stupid.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Cant see anything on here about it, but have heard from a reliable source that Fab and Welbeck have had a big bust up on the training ground about Fabs treatment of Ferguson in training being to harsh on the lad. Has anyone else heard about this?

what bit are you omitting out of interest, the exchange verbatim?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

The Turkish barbers that Welbz, Enciso and Ferguson use on Boundary Road was shut when I drove past it on Christmas Day, make of that what you will…….

 

[Titanic]

I have heard it from several people now... but all on this thread.

 

[zefarelly]

This thread is stupid.

Which is why I made a stupid post yesterday, it was the right thing to do.

Most of NSC has been speculative unsubstantiated horseshit the last few weeks anyway

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Ferguson appeared to lose confidence/form last season under RDZ. It's not something new which has just happened since Hürzeler's appointment, the beginning of which he was injured.

He had glandular fever.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Which is why I made a stupid post yesterday, it was the right thing to do.

Most of NSC has been speculative unsubstantiated horseshit the last few weeks anyway

I heard that this is because @Bozza a has secretly sold NSC to Elon Musk.

There is no proof of this, but it is a scientific fact.