[Albion] Enciso -keep, sell or loan?

[Flounce]

He's hardly played any football first team over the last two years. Yes, he missed a few last night but still looked our most lively forward. A little too eager, trying too hard vibe, but I'd start him again at Villa.

He also picks the ball up and actually runs directly at the opposition in the last third, laid off some good passes and got into potential goal scoring positions. You’d think some of our fans actually prefer attacking players to turn, twist and pass the ball backwards, seeing some of the comments about him last night

He didn’t score but he had a damn good go, none of the others showed any goal intent other than Mitoma who has gone off the boil completely. Pedro being the worst offender and is developing a very annoying amount of petulance in his play.

Gruda was also a threat in the first half until he bottled shooting.

 

[Han Solo]

Obvious solution, be like our other strikers and don’t shoot at all, pass the ball to somebody else when a chance comes. Stat problem solved instantly

Our other strikers, who apparently don't shoot at all, score a lot more goals than Julio Enciso. Care to explain how that works if "shooting on sight" is the best way to play football?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

He also picks the ball up and actually runs directly at the opposition in the last third, laid off some good passes and got into potential goal scoring positions. You’d think some of our fans actually prefer attacking players to turn, twist and pass the ball backwards, seeing some of the comments about him last night

He didn’t score but he had a damn good go, none of the others showed any goal intent other than Mitoma who has gone off the boil completely. Pedro being the worst offender and is developing a very annoying amount of petulance in his play.

Gruda was also a threat in the first half until he bottled shooting.

Spot on. Thought Gruda looked good for the first-half. Another one who, once they score, will only get better and better.

 

[Flounce]

Our other strikers, who apparently don't shoot at all, score a lot more goals than Julio Enciso. Care to explain how that works if "shooting on sight" is the best way to play football?

They have started games and played far more minutes this season. They were also being played when we didn’t look absolutely clueless in front of goal. Enciso has not had time in a confident team

 

[Han Solo]

They have started games and played far more minutes this season. They were also being played when we didn’t look absolutely clueless in front of goal. Enciso has not had time in a confident team

Why did they get to start more games you think? Could it be because they took the chance when they got it rather than throwing away every chance they got?

Enciso got the chance to prove his worth in starting in all three cup games and did nothing to repay that faith. So why should he play when both JP and Welbeck has produced a bunch of goals and assists?

 

[Seagull58]

Him and Gruda looked very good especially first half, and both worked themselves to a standstill.

We seem to have a reluctance to shoot though, I didn’t mind the shots over the bar because at least we were having an attack ending in a shot rather than it being turned over from one pass too many.

Enciso can shoot and needs to be encouraged to do so.

The last thing he needs is encouragement to shoot. That is pretty much all he does. What he needs is an arm round the shoulder and a whisper in his ear to take a breath, calm down a bit when on the ball and pick the most appropriate shot or pass.
An opportunity for Zamora to show he can coach, perhaps?

 

[Seagull58]

Gruda looks to be a bit one footed, left, he mostly turned onto his left then got blocked out.... he looks a player though.

Enciso has been told by Fab and the media, "don't be greedy".... so he passes or gets caught in prolonged possession...edit :in positions where just year he would have shot.

He had 8 shots in the first half alone. All he did was run and shoot.

 

[Rdodge30]

Up until a few weeks ago we was getting shit on here for his 'attitude'. With his last couple of performances putting that firmly to bed, it's almost like what should we knock him for now. He's 20 years old FFS

He is only 20 but I don’t see his goal ratio changing much because he simply plays how he plays.

His attitude is questionable when he doesn’t get picked, like a lot of players his age social media could well be his downfall. I think he is the player most likely to leave ‘a la Trossard’

The stats that Han Solo put up about his shots to goal ratio are quite revealing

His attitude on the pitch these last 2 matches has been brilliant but perhaps that’s in comparison to Joao Pedro’s attitude at the moment

 

[Han Solo]

The last thing he needs is encouragement to shoot. That is pretty much all he does. What he needs is an arm round the shoulder and a whisper in his ear to take a breath, calm down a bit when on the ball and pick the most appropriate shot or pass.
An opportunity for Zamora to show he can coach, perhaps?

This is why he needs to leave Brighton.

As seen in this thread he gets treated like a superstar for making the wrong (but crowd pleasing decision).

Hes been with us for 2,5 years now and desperately needs a move to a place where people demand players to produce something before they get seen as superstars.

 

[Seagull58]

Julio had EIGHT shots in the first half alone yesterday. His issue was not a reluctance to shoot but the quality of said shots. With a bit of quality he could easily have had a hat-trick. Keep.

Corrected for you

 

[Flounce]

Why did they get to start more games you think? Could it be because they took the chance when they got it rather than throwing away every chance they got?

Enciso got the chance to prove his worth in starting in all three cup games and did nothing to repay that faith. So why should he play when both JP and Welbeck has produced a bunch of goals and assists?

I give up, you are totally intransigent in your views. The fact that you seem to be suggesting that Connolly is a better player than Enciso is actually laughable imo.

The irony being your intransigence about Enciso is no different to Albion fans who thought and still think Potter was a thick Benny

The guy is 20, got injured when he was on fire early last season and has been a bit part player since and yet you also expect him to have Welbeck experience in his play, and don’t want him to have game time to get back up to speed.

 

[Jeremiah]

I thought he was our MOTM yesterday. Yes he should have done better with his chances but he was BUSY and looked up for it and tried to create something for himself and others. Unfortunately I didn't see many others doing this.

 

[amexer]

could certainly do without him waving at crowd asking for more support. If only I was able to tell him that if he had put at least one of his chances away the crowd would make a lot more noise.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Keep him. DEFIANTLY. Exciting raw talent who excites the crowd and has huge scope for improvement

 

[Han Solo]

I give up, you are totally intransigent in your views. The fact that you seem to be suggesting that Connolly is a better player than Enciso is actually laughable imo.

The irony being your intransigence about Enciso is no different to Albion fans who thought and still think Potter was a thick Benny

The guy is 20, got injured when he was on fire early last season and has been a bit part player since and yet you also expect him to have Welbeck experience in his play, and don’t want him to have game time to get back up to speed.

I give up as well.

You think that the best chance of winning in football is shooting from everywhere, and you continue to think so despite virtually every f***ing data point in football showing that it just doesn't work. There's more data backing it up than there's data backing up that the world is round (which it is, in case you're wondering).

In the calendar year of 2024, Julio Enciso has played 1794 minutes of football scoring 2 goals (against Colobmia and Bolivia) and getting 1 assist (against Crawley).

We and Paraguay have been giving Enciso countless chances and been repaid (well, Paraguay at least!) with 1 goal per 897 minutes. Good enough for you and several other fact-resistant people in here but not good enough for us, meaning he's very likely to get loaned or sold despite his start yesterday.

Kind of hopeless discussing with someone who thinks the manager should resign if he isn't playing a striker who has proven over and over that he can't score and ruins opportunities for others to score.

 

[Flounce]

I give up as well.

You think that the best chance of winning in football is shooting from everywhere, and you continue to think so despite virtually every f***ing data point in football showing that it just doesn't work. There's more data backing it up than there's data backing up that the world is round (which it is, in case you're wondering).

In the calendar year of 2024, Julio Enciso has played 1794 minutes of football scoring 2 goals (against Colobmia and Bolivia) and getting 1 assist (against Crawley).

We and Paraguay have been giving Enciso countless chances and been repaid (well, Paraguay at least!) with 1 goal per 897 minutes. Good enough for you and several other fact-resistant people in here but not good enough for us, meaning he's very likely to get loaned or sold despite his start yesterday.

Kind of hopeless discussing with someone who thinks the manager should resign if he isn't playing a striker who has proven over and over that he can't score and ruins opportunities for others to score.

You really do talk some absolute shite to back up your intransigence


Yep, he’s shit get rid, we don’t need attacking players with these stats as we are so well stocked with more adventurous players

Enciso also passed the ball on 29 occasions and had the most touches of any of Albion's attacking players with 48

 

[GT49er]

The rubbishers are out in force today, very vociferous. The poll tells a different story.

 

[Springal]

Is it just me surprised Enciso only has 4 goals to his name in his PL career. Maybe I’ve been expecting to much from him as even under RDZ he didn’t score many

 

[Bold Seagull]

Why don’t you mention the first half of 23/24 before the injury pile up? He were higher in the league than we are now and playing Europa league football.

I’m not the one making the case to get rid of this manager with a comparison to the last.

 

[levs]

This is why he needs to leave Brighton.

As seen in this thread he gets treated like a superstar for making the wrong (but crowd pleasing decision).

Hes been with us for 2,5 years now and desperately needs a move to a place where people demand players to produce something before they get seen as superstars.

Nobody treats him as a superstar, but he's likeable because he's a positive player who tries to make things happen and do something different. I don't think you can fairly blame the fans for his performances as we would have had very little influence

Yes his stats aren't great, but from memory he has his the woodwork on a number of occasions so there is an element of misfortune