El Abd

[Questions]

I never rememer any players fron the seventies and eighties taking swipes in the Argos like this bunch do.

I wonder if players have changed or maybe John Vinnicombe didn`t go delving like some others do.

Still think Fozzie and the like were stronger characters though.

I remember Ian mellor and Gordon Smith both players none of this lot could EVER compare to taking all manner of stick but I never saw them complain. Fans do expect too much at times but players are servants of the club and when the greats say something like Roy Keane did about ''The Prawn sandwhich brigade'' fans will take note because of the respect they have earnt over years in the game. When some 19/20 year old who will probably be at Worthing or Eastbourne in a couple of seasons starts telling the fans they need to try harder or go a bit softer on them it makes my heart bleed.

 

[Les Biehn]

What worries me more about El-Abd then this whole flouncy thing he has going on, its more the irratic nature of his game. One game he's great and the next he is shit.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I had the misfortune of sitting near some fat idiot banging on about this yesterday. He sees fit to abuse both visiting and home players in the most colourful language, yet was acting like an affronted vicars wifre yesterday because he'd got some back.
I don't condone the beahviour of El-Abd but the hypocracy of some on this issue is breathtaking.

 

[fosters headband]

I had the misfortune of sitting near some fat idiot banging on about this yesterday. He sees fit to abuse both visiting and home players in the most colourful language, yet was acting like an affronted vicars wifre yesterday because he'd got some back.
I don't condone the beahviour of El-Abd but the hypocracy of some on this issue is breathtaking.

Just curious, who gave him some back?

 

[NMH]

Even at a time when England were crapper than usual, Foster was a crap choice for England. What his England cap has to do with comparisons with el-Abd is totally beside any point anyway.

If Brian Horton were to be compared with Foster, does that mean he's not an Albion legend because he wasn't picked and Foster was??

Right now, el-Abd is a prospect for a fine future with Brighton, as one of those players that is a club stalwart, and would get hurt for the cause. However, getting insulted, humiliated, berated and discouraged, is not really going to help that happen for The Albion, is it.

Next season I would love to see AeA still at Brighton, and dedicate his performance to the REAL supporters who do actually 'support' - not to the rest, who cannot be categorized as supporters in the true sense of the word.

 

[fosters headband]

Even at a time when England were crapper than usual, Foster was a crap choice for England. What his England cap has to do with comparisons with el-Abd is totally beside any point anyway.

If Brian Horton were to be compared with Foster, does that mean he's not an Albion legend because he wasn't picked and Foster was??

Right now, el-Abd is a prospect for a fine future with Brighton, as one of those players that is a club stalwart, and would get hurt for the cause. However, getting insulted, humiliated, berated and discouraged, is not really going to help that happen for The Albion, is it.

Next season I would love to see AeA still at Brighton, and dedicate his performance to the REAL supporters who do actually 'support' - not to the rest, who cannot be categorized as supporters in the true sense of the word.

I totaly agree with you that Horton as much as Foster was an Albion legend, if not more so. But I really cannot accept in my opinion that El Abd has the quality or ability to compare with these players.
Both of these players played the majority of their football in the top two divisions.
If El Abd ever plays regular football above third teir I will eat my hat. But then football is all about opinions.
I would never call you a lesser supporter because you think differently.

 

[Questions]

Even at a time when England were crapper than usual, Foster was a crap choice for England. What his England cap has to do with comparisons with el-Abd is totally beside any point anyway.

If Brian Horton were to be compared with Foster, does that mean he's not an Albion legend because he wasn't picked and Foster was??

Right now, el-Abd is a prospect for a fine future with Brighton, as one of those players that is a club stalwart, and would get hurt for the cause. However, getting insulted, humiliated, berated and discouraged, is not really going to help that happen for The Albion, is it.

Next season I would love to see AeA still at Brighton, and dedicate his performance to the REAL supporters who do actually 'support' - not to the rest, who cannot be categorized as supporters in the true sense of the word.

The point is you keep calling Adam El Abd an Albion legend. He is not.

We were so crap in 1982 that we never lost a game in that world cup. Foster was so crap that England never conceded a goal in any of his 3 games he played in.

Thats a legend mate.

 

[ditchy]

This will probably be blasphemy to most on here but I didn't like Steve Foster. I thought he was a big head.

You have a point there Yorkie , but he could play and had ability as well as leadership qualities

 

[NMH]

I totaly agree with you that Horton as much as Foster was an Albion legend, if not more so. But I really cannot accept in my opinion that El Abd has the quality or ability to compare with these players.
Both of these players played the majority of their football in the top two divisions.
If El Abd ever plays regular football above third teir I will eat my hat. But then football is all about opinions.
I would never call you a lesser supporter because you think differently.

Well, we already have the advantage of hindsight with which to examine old ex-Albion 'legends', now that their careers are OVER, done and dusted, and benefitting from the glowing aura of retrospect.
I have witnessed poor games from Brian Horton, and several from Steve Foster.... to name those two. Add Sully, Catlin, Gerry Fell, and yes, Peter Ward, I remember them having 'mares, missing sitters or losing us matches.
VERY FEW players were so consistent to not have bad games, maybe Lawrenson was the most consistent rarely-a-foot-wrong player.

'Legend' as in completed, cast in stone and standing as a statue at the gates of Falmer.... no, of course AeA isn't there. Yet.

BUT - if there is one player who has the potential, who is increasing his stock, has improved immensely, who is the sort of player we should look to for building a squad around - it is Adam el-Abd.

Of ALL the players, I personally cannot say one other name that suggests the possibility of being a squad member in, say, three seasons time. Maybe Cox, maybe Robinson, maybe Revell, Lynch, Hammond...... but to my eyes, none more so than el-Abd.
And that's the player singled out by many as the squad 'twat'?



Maybe NOT el-Abd then, maybe some people will succeed in alienating him BEFORE he can become an 'Albion legend' like Horton, Ward, Foster, Sully......

I prefer to discourage 'fans' from keeping this alienation up.

At the start of the season we DESPERATELY needed help in the midfield. Is Bertin staying? Is Coxy the key? The answer to our midfield problems? I don't think Cox can operate without an el-Abd figure around him.
By my reckoning, el-Abd is one of our most important players, if not THE most. And after taking knocks in the match, caring about the results, he obviously does feel it most when the Withdean supporters boo him off.

 

[Questions]

Well, we already have the advantage of hindsight with which to examine old ex-Albion 'legends', now that their careers are OVER, done and dusted, and benefitting from the glowing aura of retrospect.
I have witnessed poor games from Brian Horton, and several from Steve Foster.... to name those two. Add Sully, Catlin, Gerry Fell, and yes, Peter Ward, I remember them having 'mares, missing sitters or losing us matches.
VERY FEW players were so consistent to not have bad games, maybe Lawrenson was the most consistent rarely-a-foot-wrong player.

'Legend' as in completed, cast in stone and standing as a statue at the gates of Falmer.... no, of course AeA isn't there. Yet.

BUT - if there is one player who has the potential, who is increasing his stock, has improved immensely, who is the sort of player we should look to for building a squad around - it is Adam el-Abd.

Of ALL the players, I personally cannot say one other name that suggests the possibility of being a squad member in, say, three seasons time. Maybe Cox, maybe Robinson, maybe Revell, Lynch, Hammond...... but to my eyes, none more so than el-Abd.
And that's the player singled out by many as the squad 'twat'?



Maybe NOT el-Abd then, maybe some people will succeed in alienating him BEFORE he can become an 'Albion legend' like Horton, Ward, Foster, Sully......

I prefer to discourage 'fans' from keeping this alienation up.

At the start of the season we DESPERATELY needed help in the midfield. Is Bertin staying? Is Coxy the key? The answer to our midfield problems? I don't think Cox can operate without an el-Abd figure around him.
By my reckoning, el-Abd is one of our most important players, if not THE most. And after taking knocks in the match, caring about the results, he obviously does feel it most when the Withdean supporters boo him off.

Reading that last post has convinced me of one thing.



















































That you are mad

If you think Adam El Abd has any chance of becoming an Albion legend. You crazy crazy man.

 

[humpy]

we don't have money to go buy "legends" so why don't we just support the lads that turn out for us, encourage them and make them feel that they are not going to get castigated for every mistake they made (how many people in their JOB here would like to be ridiculed and booed for every mistake they made). Too many so called supporters seem to think that our team and players should be so much better than they are but just like you and I they don't go to work to do a bad job intentionally. Cox has come in for unbelievable abuse on here in the last few weeks or so but when can you last remember a midfielder in recent times hitting 10 goals (especially in their first full season), how many goals has he made this season and more importantly how likely would we have stayed up without those assists , still don't let that stop you abusing him because its just not working for him at the moment, after all he's contributed f*** all this season just like the rest of the lads.

Sorry I forgot we are an aspiring championship team with the prem in our sites and not a penniless league 1 team.

 

[Skaville]

Well, we already have the advantage of hindsight with which to examine old ex-Albion 'legends', now that their careers are OVER, done and dusted, and benefitting from the glowing aura of retrospect.
I have witnessed poor games from Brian Horton, and several from Steve Foster.... to name those two. Add Sully, Catlin, Gerry Fell, and yes, Peter Ward, I remember them having 'mares, missing sitters or losing us matches.
VERY FEW players were so consistent to not have bad games, maybe Lawrenson was the most consistent rarely-a-foot-wrong player.

'Legend' as in completed, cast in stone and standing as a statue at the gates of Falmer.... no, of course AeA isn't there. Yet.

BUT - if there is one player who has the potential, who is increasing his stock, has improved immensely, who is the sort of player we should look to for building a squad around - it is Adam el-Abd.

Of ALL the players, I personally cannot say one other name that suggests the possibility of being a squad member in, say, three seasons time. Maybe Cox, maybe Robinson, maybe Revell, Lynch, Hammond...... but to my eyes, none more so than el-Abd.
And that's the player singled out by many as the squad 'twat'?



Maybe NOT el-Abd then, maybe some people will succeed in alienating him BEFORE he can become an 'Albion legend' like Horton, Ward, Foster, Sully......

I prefer to discourage 'fans' from keeping this alienation up.

At the start of the season we DESPERATELY needed help in the midfield. Is Bertin staying? Is Coxy the key? The answer to our midfield problems? I don't think Cox can operate without an el-Abd figure around him.
By my reckoning, el-Abd is one of our most important players, if not THE most. And after taking knocks in the match, caring about the results, he obviously does feel it most when the Withdean supporters boo him off.

Slightly over the top, but I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment. A good player who, when not played out of position (i.e. on the right side of the diamond or at left back) is a very good performer, plus he has passion, which is something many of the squad seem to lack.

All the people that want rid need to think about the consequences of him leaving. We're not about to sign a replacement are we?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Cox has come in for unbelievable abuse on here in the last few weeks or so but when can you last remember a midfielder in recent times hitting 10 goals

Hammond?

 

[Skaville]

Hammond?

 

[mona]

Adam ElAbd is a committed 100%er.
Leave the bloke alone.

 

[fosters headband]

Well, we already have the advantage of hindsight with which to examine old ex-Albion 'legends', now that their careers are OVER, done and dusted, and benefitting from the glowing aura of retrospect.
I have witnessed poor games from Brian Horton, and several from Steve Foster.... to name those two. Add Sully, Catlin, Gerry Fell, and yes, Peter Ward, I remember them having 'mares, missing sitters or losing us matches.
VERY FEW players were so consistent to not have bad games, maybe Lawrenson was the most consistent rarely-a-foot-wrong player.

'Legend' as in completed, cast in stone and standing as a statue at the gates of Falmer.... no, of course AeA isn't there. Yet.

BUT - if there is one player who has the potential, who is increasing his stock, has improved immensely, who is the sort of player we should look to for building a squad around - it is Adam el-Abd.

Of ALL the players, I personally cannot say one other name that suggests the possibility of being a squad member in, say, three seasons time. Maybe Cox, maybe Robinson, maybe Revell, Lynch, Hammond...... but to my eyes, none more so than el-Abd.
And that's the player singled out by many as the squad 'twat'?



Maybe NOT el-Abd then, maybe some people will succeed in alienating him BEFORE he can become an 'Albion legend' like Horton, Ward, Foster, Sully......

I prefer to discourage 'fans' from keeping this alienation up.

At the start of the season we DESPERATELY needed help in the midfield. Is Bertin staying? Is Coxy the key? The answer to our midfield problems? I don't think Cox can operate without an el-Abd figure around him.
By my reckoning, el-Abd is one of our most important players, if not THE most. And after taking knocks in the match, caring about the results, he obviously does feel it most when the Withdean supporters boo him off.

On Adam El Abd I am afraid I will never agree with your valuation of him. But because football is about personnal opinion I respect your views.
But one thing I must clear up with you. You aim your arguments to me as tho I am a supporter who is guilty of booing Adam.
I must inform you that in all my years of supporting the Albion I have never ever been guilty of that and never will be.
I think it is a sad day that the quality of players we have today, we have people who can even contemplate an Adam El Abd even becoming an Albion legend.

 

[fosters headband]

Adam ElAbd is a committed 100%er.
Leave the bloke alone.

So was Scott Ramsey

 

[Gritt23]

My impression was that he thought he only had to turn up. We were going to play so much better in the replay when he was available for selection again.

To coin a phrase you used yourself in this thread, have you got this view of Fozzie as a Big Head, "based on one game"?

 

[Gritt23]

Adam ElAbd is a committed 100%er.
Leave the bloke alone.

So would I be if I played for the Albion, in fact I would expect EVERY player to give us 100%.

 

[humpy]

Hammond?

and he has had his abusers too, don't figure does it ?